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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 02:19:11 PM

Title: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 02:19:11 PM
Hi...

I run a LAN the following way:

ADSL --> PC --> Amiga

One day, Amiga just couldnt get internet acces, as if there where no DNS, I tried to reconfigure the settings and everythinmg seems normal it just stoped.

I can ping machines bothways, I can even acces Amiga drives from pc and viceversa, can copy files both ways too, just internet acces is missing.

Anybody knows if theres a trojan in the Amiga/PC side causing this? or is this fault of one of those Winbug$ updates??? I run Amiga OS 3.9 and Winbug$ XP SP1

TIA
Ronky
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Argo on October 08, 2003, 02:22:19 PM
Is the network gateway address on the Amiga set to the PC's IP?
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 02:27:31 PM
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Argo wrote:
Is the network gateway address on the Amiga set to the PC's IP?


Yes...

As I said before, it had been working for several months, until last friday when it suddenly STOPED... :(

Thanx
Ronky
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: bloodline on October 08, 2003, 02:28:52 PM
How is the Amiga connected to the PC?

Can't you get an Amiga network card and then use a hub?
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Floid on October 08, 2003, 02:36:13 PM
Have a friend drag a laptop or some other 'known good' system over.  (If it's Windows, make sure it's virus scanned first!)  See if it can get out.

If it can't, it's time to figure out what broke with the NAT program you probably had running on the PC.
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 02:37:23 PM
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bloodline wrote:
How is the Amiga connected to the PC?

Can't you get an Amiga network card and then use a hub?


Hi...

I have an A4066 ethernet card inside the A4000 and a crossed ethernet cable connected to both machines.

I use Samba for file sharing and Miami DX

Thanx
Ronky
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: lorddef on October 08, 2003, 02:41:36 PM
Which computer is the NAT, the Amiga or the PC?
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 03:38:04 PM
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lorddef wrote:
Which computer is the NAT, the Amiga or the PC?


I dunno wot NAT stands for, but the ADSL modem is connected to the PC (using ethernet) and the Amiga is connected to the PC through a 2nd NIC

Thanx
Ronky
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: SilvrDrgn on October 08, 2003, 03:54:53 PM
Maybe an update was applied to the PC (either manually or via automatic means) that patched or changed more than it should have???
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Linchpin on October 08, 2003, 04:11:15 PM
I know this sounds obvious, but this sounds like the firewall on the PC or a corruption within ICS. Nothing is impossible... :-)
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: csirac_ on October 08, 2003, 04:37:01 PM
when you say, can't access the net, and you mentioned the DNS: can you browse to a site via IP address? Can you ping anything via IP address?

Right-click->manage on "my computer", go to event viewer, check system/application logs, perhaps there is something useful there.

You could also run a network analyser like ethereal on the windows machine and see what the Amiga is trying to do (and how the XP box is responding).

Try removing ICS and redoing it.

- Paul
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: lorddef on October 08, 2003, 05:01:29 PM
I agree, when I last used ICS it did manage to mess up all on its own a few times.  As csirac_ says try removing ICS compleetly and then reinstalling it and following the wizard again.
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on October 08, 2003, 05:06:44 PM
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Ronky wrote:

One day, Amiga just couldnt get internet acces, as if there where no DNS,


Are your machines set up static? Perhaps your provider has moved their DNS. While the PC might hear about this, the Amiga wouldn't. Make sure that you DNS is the same on the Amiga as it is on the PC.
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: KennyR on October 08, 2003, 05:09:54 PM
Uh... ICS. It's as if MS make it hard to use it with non-Windows machines. I've heard of too many problems with ICS. Best use proper IP-NAT or SOCKS on your gateway such as MiamiDX, or a linux or hardware router.
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 07:50:22 PM
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lorddef wrote:
I agree, when I last used ICS it did manage to mess up all on its own a few times.  As csirac_ says try removing ICS compleetly and then reinstalling it and following the wizard again.


Wotz ICS??? I use spanish for XP so some abreviations wont correspond exaclty... ;)

Thanks
Ronky
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: adolescent on October 08, 2003, 09:21:26 PM
Internet Connection Sharing...  Not sure what that translates to.
Title: Thanks yall, it's woeking now
Post by: Ronky on October 08, 2003, 09:25:45 PM
Hi there...

Well, it seemed to be the ¿network bridge, I just removed it and set things up without it, now I have internet acces.... dunno why it worked before using it.

Thank you all who helped me out!
Ronky
Title: Re: Weird LAN behaviour
Post by: Tekoneiric on October 08, 2003, 09:48:47 PM
I've done broadband support for the outsource company I work for, I ran into a number of DNS issues with Windows 2000 and XP. Try these steps

if your using PPOE, logout first.

open a cmd prompt and type
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /flushdns
arp -d *

close the cmd prompt
goto the "System" control panel
goto Computer Name / Properties / More
and populate the Primary DNS Suffix with something, ok your way out and reboot then login again.

This might fix the problem for you.

If you don't see the More button then either you don't have the client installed or it's jacked up and you need to uninstall it and reinstall.

9x and ME have their own issues which is fixed by a complicated series of steps involving a reg hack at one point. lol

Andrea

Title: Re: Thanks yall, it's woeking now
Post by: Tekoneiric on October 08, 2003, 09:51:40 PM
Yea, the network bridge is jacked. I don't know how many times I had people remove that on ISP support.