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Title: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Coder on September 04, 2003, 08:21:19 PM
I have done a review about my Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board. It’s not an in-depth review about the Pegasos or MorphOS but more a description about the time receiving it and having it running. It can be found here (http://www.flyingpaper.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=3).

"On Friday July the 11th my Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board arrived. FedEx was already at my apartment the day before but we were on the bus on our way back from a short holiday. When we were on the bus we noticed a missed call on the mobile and usually we never call back. But this time (phew!) we did. It turned out to be FedEx which had a package from France."

Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Wilse on September 04, 2003, 09:21:46 PM
Nice review Coder.

I did the same as you, re. taking my Amiga One out of the case and
sticking this Pegasos in it.

Haven't gotten around to installing linux on it yet.

Who knows, maybe I never will. ;-)
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: redfox on September 04, 2003, 09:29:05 PM
Coder

Thanks for sharing your experience with us.  This was a very interesting review.

---------------
redfox
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: JoannaK on September 04, 2003, 09:51:49 PM
It's a nice start to interesting story. Please let us hear more of
this later.
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: sdesros on September 04, 2003, 09:55:49 PM
@Wilse:
I take it you have a fully working Pegasos now?

@Coder:
Great! :)

Hmm... I need a new case for my Pegasos.  Most of my PCI cards won't fit through the backplane.  :-(
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: KennyR on September 04, 2003, 09:59:47 PM
Another satisfied customer. ;-)
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Warface on September 04, 2003, 10:03:35 PM
Nice beginnings! Give us more! :-)
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Wilse on September 04, 2003, 10:04:57 PM
@sdesros:

I don't know if I'd call it "fully working", in as much as there's
still loads I need to do to it but it's a sight more working than
the last one. ;-)

Much like the A1, when you first get it going, it's operational but
not fully meeting your needs. The difference for me is that working on
getting it there is *SO* much nicer in an amiga-like environment than
in Linux.

Once I get PSA installed, I'll be getting closer to what I want. At
least I hope so. :-P
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: amigamad on September 04, 2003, 10:06:49 PM
Nice review maybe you can get some pictures of it running online. :-)
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Floid on September 05, 2003, 02:34:34 AM
Hey Coder...

...Can I borrow your G3SE until OS4's released?   :-D
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Atheist on September 05, 2003, 06:26:09 AM
Hahahahahahahaahhaahahhaahha!!!!!

1. "copy cd0: dh0: all"
2. "copy env:sys/def_disk.info dh0:"
3. "copy dh0:boot.img bi0: move"

Compare this to windows!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahaahhaahahhaahha!!!!!

That's the Amiga way, all right!
Congratulations MorphOS guys! You've put the richest company in the world to shame!
What's that take, about 6 minutes? Hehe.

If the alternative wasn't available, I'd get a PegasOS!
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Coder on September 05, 2003, 07:01:55 AM
Hi,

Thnx for the nice comments everyone. I will come up with more and also some pictures of my setup.

As for the A1, that one is really in my closet. Don't worry, it's packed very well. You see, I could buy a new case and all for the Peg but since I tried it this way I will keep it. When OS4 is out then I will buy a new case and all the others so that I have 2 machines running. Now I can only run Linux on my A1 and that I can do on my Peg too. But I am to busy working with MorphOS to give it a try.

The idea behind the review was just to give you all an idea how the whole Free peg proces went. And it went Superb. I think it's not under NDA or so, but there was one guy who got one that did not work and he will get a new one. It's not like, hey it's free so don't complain.

In the past I really did not like Pegasos/MOS. Even said it on some posts I think. But you can only judge it, once you tried it. But then again, everybody has a different taste of things. :-)

Coder
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: sdesros on September 05, 2003, 03:15:15 PM
@Wilse
I understand. :)   You'll never really be finished tweaking your setup...  Always new toys to try.  :-D
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: KennyR on September 05, 2003, 05:21:55 PM
Quote
Atheist wrote:
What's that take, about 6 minutes? Hehe.


Less. :-)

(And you'll only have to do it once.)
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: MarkTime on September 05, 2003, 06:03:28 PM
wow, that's really cool coder.

Well, one thing I will point out, it was a great advantage that you had an AmigaONE, and
thus you already had memory that would work
in this board.

It is very finicky on memory.  I tried 6 or 7 different
sticks of memory, even ones that were supposed
to work, before giving up and returning my
Pegasos.

nope, that was enough aggravation for me, but
its still a great thing they are doing giving away
boards.'

*edit*
btw, I hope no one takes it as unwarranted criticism.
They are, in fact, finicky on memory, both the
AmigaONE and Pegasos...the peg I and amigaone
share a chipset, after all, future versions that will
not be true and we'll have to see which one is better.  I suspect the Peg II, but time will tell.

Also, despite any criticism I will give on other matters, this whole developer program is a wonderful idea...I wish them well.
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: JoannaK on September 05, 2003, 10:06:01 PM
Marktime: Those Pre-april boards (given as freebies) were damn
sensisive to memory types. I surely hope that any future systems don't
have this kind of hassle in them. Or if they do, manufacturers of the
system must start deliverim tested Dimm modules alongside boards.

Biggest problem with 'tested' memory-types is that most people don't
remember to write down (or check) chip types from simm modules. Same
simm module may be manufactured with different Ram chips. Brands are
not compatible nor are all manufaturing lots 100% identical. On normal
well.behaving memory controller this ain't usually much of an problem.

Anyhow.. it's hopefully soon becoming history.
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: KennyR on September 06, 2003, 05:06:50 AM
Quote
Marktime wrote:
*edit*
btw, I hope no one takes it as unwarranted criticism.
They are, in fact, finicky on memory, both the
AmigaONE and Pegasos...the peg I and amigaone
share a chipset, after all, future versions that will
not be true and we'll have to see which one is better. I suspect the Peg II, but time will tell.


No, on the contrary your criticism is well placed. The Pegasos-1 is indeed choosy with memory - too choosy. It would have been one of the biggest problems with the board had it ever gone into mass production. I just bought a memory stick from kdh and it worked perfect first time, but I know a great number of people who weren't so lucky.
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: DethKnight on September 06, 2003, 05:38:49 PM
couldn't they just send the 80-wire cables with the product?
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Coder on September 07, 2003, 07:49:00 AM
@DethKnight

Quote
couldn't they just send the 80-wire cables with the product?


One could say yes but not in this case. It's a free board with no shipping costs and a free t-shirt. Who am I to complain about the cable? :-)

Coder
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: greenboy on September 07, 2003, 07:36:13 PM
These were swapped-out, pre-used Pegasos boards that Genesi was originally going to sell for (if memory serves) 49 euros (or was it 99?). Anyway. I talked BBRV into letting me GIVE them away - WITHOUT any associated shipping costs. And I actually only started with 10 and managed to incrementally extend that to over 40.

Maybe I should have tried for cables, cases, and harddrives too, but it might not have been in Genesi's best interests ;  }

I've remarked elsewhere that Coder (and others with similar smarts and drive) is exactly the reason I wanted to make these free. Coder, you RULE!
Title: Re: Review of Coder's Free Pre-April II Pegasos Board
Post by: Coder on September 07, 2003, 08:06:35 PM
Greenboy,

Quote
Coder, you RULE!


Well thank you! So do you. It seems I do not rule here in the house since I have to take out the trash. Small world. :-P

Anyway, I don't want to be picky but your the one to blame that my A1 is in the closet. :-P

Coder