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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: Targhan on August 05, 2003, 05:36:49 AM
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As previously reported, the deadline for Poseidon registrations was to end on August first. The date has passed, and THIS (http://www.platon42.de/poseidon.html) was posted on the Poseidon home page.
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Dropped for ALL times ?
I thought they had an agreement.
http://www.elbox.com/news_02_09_11B.html
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Firstly, that annoucement is almost year old.. a lot can happen in time like that. And anyone readin Ann.lu has been able to see some parts of it..
And.... Elbox has anounced a lot of strange things during last years.
Like upcoming AmigaOS4 magically working on their (still vapor) Shark PPC (and +) cards. According Hyperion (and they DO know OS4 development) there is no such card in their hands nor any support at all has even been made.
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Did the Poseidon author reject the official announcement then, apart from the Poseidon registrations end ?
I would when such an announcement was written on their website and across mailinglists.
like you say yourself a lot can happen in a year and the announcement from Elbox magically working on a SharkPPC is also long time ago.
Didn't Buck say OS4 works on the Pegasos ? Does Hyperion have a Pegasos, no.
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I can understand Chris stopping new registrations from Spider users, but what about the existing users who have already paid for Poseidon?
"Eventually, the free updates will cease at some point (but not this year)."
It`s no skin off Chris`s nose to let them have the updates others will get, since it`s Elbox that have to deal with the spider driver.
I`m just glad I got a Highway :-D
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This s**ks... Hmm... does anyone wan't to buy a SpiderII USB Card?
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Infact this is very stupid. Chris are attacking the users.
I'll never support Poseidon anymore.
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Does Hyperion have a Pegasos, no.
According to Ben Hermans (in AmiWest speech) They do have, 3 of them...
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It looks like it is Michael Boehmer, highway/subway/algor producer, who is behind the Hodges' move.
Spider USB 2.0 is simply to too good, too fast and too inexpansive. E3B USB products cannot compete with it in any way. Stopping the Poseidon registration is the way how Boehmer and Hodges want to force users to buy their obsolete and overpiced USB 1.1 controllers.
Breaking the agreement is nothing for Chris Hodges, this is his usual behaviour, this guy has no ethics. See my case.
I'm a Spider user from the very beginning. I bought keys for Poseidon early October directly from Chris. I paid him 20 EUR for them. In March Chris Hodges unexpectedly switched off my keys, without even contacting me about it! It was just after I had told Boehmer in the Highway ML that there was an error in the Algor specs page.
Hodges did not give any specific reason for switching my keys, and in a Poseidon update, he wrote only this: 'Nevertheless, this is a free update for all registered and licensed users except for one. This "Rat" has to stick to the old version. Support is something bilateral.'
In public discussions Chris Hodges suggests that I have did some terrible things against him, which is clearly untrue. He does not even respond to my public questions about the actual reason for his switching off my personal keys!
Now I am of the opinion that Chris Hodges is simply a dishonest and unreliable person. He does not care about users, and he makes his support dependent on his private whims.
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Didn't Buck say OS4 works on the Pegasos ?
No.
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Spider USB 2.0 is simply to too good, too fast and too inexpansive. E3B USB products cannot compete with it in any way. Stopping the Poseidon registration is the way how Boehmer and Hodges want to force users to buy their obsolete and overpiced USB 1.1 controllers.
True.Noone classic amiga usb card can compete with Spider.
He does not care about users, and he makes his support dependent on his private whims.
He can't penalize the users. And then yes i also think that he does what Michael Boehmer says.
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@ ikir :
Selling a product affirming that it's cheaper and faster than the competition and that the driver (A.K.A. poseidon stack (the ONLY stack that works with it)) is included and forcing the customer to register it (poseidon) cause the seller don't want to pay for an OEM license to chris IS STUPID!
There is a VERY BIG difference between a DEVELOPPER licence and an OEM licence :
- the first one is for INTERNAL MANUFACTURER use ONLY, to test and addapt the software closelly to the hardware and NEVER meant to go outside of the laboratories, this one can be FREE :-) but not everytime...
- the second one is for the CUSTOMERS (YOU) of the finished product that get a hardware in working conditions AND the software FULLY REGISTERED in OEM form (at the name of the hardware vendor AND working SOLELY WITH THAT HARDWARE), this one COST MONEY and that's why you pay some bucks more your hardware :-)
It seems that ELBOX hasn't yet understand that simple facts :-x
They are OK to sell lots of Spider cards but they don't want to pay for an OEM licence, they want YOU to pay YOURSELF for THEM that licence by registering the stack, but forget to tell you BEFORE YOU BUY that the included stack is an unregistered demo version YOU MUST REGISTER BEFORE to get the full fonctionnalities!
That's what I call STUPID and VERY BAD commercial acting!
In fatcs, if they were supplying a generic stack of their own with the Spider (fully fonctionnal) AND let you have the possibility to prefer using Poseidon instead by registering it directly, there will be NO PROBLEMS at all!
In the present case, and after all that Chris had to support from Elbox, he made the RIGHT and ONLY decision to have, he is not attacking users as the registered ones will continue to get support.
Now, the only choice Elbox have is to BUY an OEM licence (like Michael did for it's Highway, Subway and Algor cards per example) or develop a stack themselves.
Amigalement,
Jean-Francois, Amiga ONLY since 1985 and Poseidon active supporter since it's very first version!
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btw, wasn't the whole point in PCI being able to use "general" cheap
hardware instead of custom hardware?
So... Why Mediator users have to use Spider instead of any cheaper "standard" USB card?
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@ikir:
How do you know Chris is doing this to spite the users? How do you know this is only done because of competition with E3B cards? Hmm? Answer: you don't. You are calling Chris' actions "stupid" without any idea of the reasons behind it.
Personally, I don't know exactly what went on between Elbox and Chris, but lets look at Elbox's past history, shall we? They've pissed off the Picasso96 authors, over very similar issues. Do you think it might be possible that Elbox's attitudes to licensing could be something to do with this, hmm?
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@Jean-Francois
It seems that you do not know the facts at all.
1. This was Chris Hodges who approached Elbox with the proposal of co-operation.
Not Elbox, but CHRIS CHOSE DIRECT USER REGISTRATION. That was Hodges decision and Elbox accepted it. Read more about it here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amiga-Mediator/message/13629).
2. Hodges explained that in this way he received more money from each user than in case of the OEM licence.
3. Elbox clearly informs that Poseidon stack needs to be bought separately, see Spider page (http://www.buy.elbox.com/cgibin/shop?info=770S20). Elbox USB 2.0 DRIVERS for Poseidon stack are enclosed with the Spider card.
Are you suggesting that Hodges wants now Elbox to buy the OEM licence, and CHRIS WOULD SEND MONEY BACK to all those Spider users who paid him?
No way, be serious, that is not what he is after. Chris wants to hamper sales of the Spider, because BOEHEMER ASKS HIM TO DO SO, that is all.
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He said 3 of the beta team has Pegasos, not the the Friedens what i remember.
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Yep, it was the other way around.
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@tjaoz :
>3. Elbox clearly informs that Poseidon stack needs to be bought separately, see Spider page. Elbox USB 2.0 DRIVERS for Poseidon stack are enclosed with the Spider card.
FALSE! : it is never stated on the pages that you MUST BUY poseidon apart to fully use the card! reread carrefully that pages.
The drivers from Elbox are the HARDWARE drivers (i.e; the small part of code that's needed by Poseidon to recognize WHAT USB CARD is present in the Amiga).
Amigalement,
Jean-François, Amiga ONLY since 1985.
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@Jean-François
>3. Elbox clearly informs that Poseidon stack needs to be bought separately, see Spider page. Elbox USB 2.0 DRIVERS for Poseidon stack are enclosed with the Spider card.
FALSE! : it is never stated on the pages that you MUST BUY poseidon apart to fully use the card! reread carrefully that pages.
Do have any problems with reading?
What in your opinion does the following point mean in the requirements to use the Spider card:
' • Poseidon stack (for Amithlon and Mediator based systems)'?
All Spider requirements you can find here (http://www.buy.elbox.com/cgibin/shop?info=770S20).
And what was the meaning of the sentence:
'Registration of the Poseidon stack for Mediator users will be provided by Chris Hodges,'
which is in their website here (http://www.elbox.com/news_02_09_11B.html)?
(i.e; the small part of code that's needed by Poseidon to recognize WHAT USB CARD is present in the Amiga).
Edited by Kees - Personal Insult
Titan has been writing drivers (only USB 1.1) to the Poseidon for over a year and their current status is mere 40%.
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@Tjaoz.
Why don`t you give it a rest, everywhere I look I see you bad mouthing Chris Hodges, on the Highway Yahoo group, on ANN, on Amigaworld, you sound like a whining little kid who`s had his football taken away.
I like the way all your "proof" of Chris and Micheal Boehemer comes from Elbox.. yeah, they`re nice and trustworthy aren`t they ? ( Remember the "We havent got RDB trashing code in our drivers " lie?)
It has NOTHING to do with restricting competing products, check the VGR site, you can see for yourself there are other cards (not made by E3B) that Poseidon supports.
It has nothing to do with money either..see your own quote about the fact that Chris gets LESS money selling it the OEM way.
Dude, I hope Chris sues your sorry arse for the libel you`ve been spreading about. And you wonder why he stopped your reg key??
Anyway. why are you so annoyed, according to the Elbox Spider page, they`ve got their own USB stack almost ready to go.
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Okay, people, could you all please calm down a bit? I do have reasons for this decision and I can send them to you privately. I'm currently setting up a page where you all can read the whole story to ruin your day. But until this is done, all assumptions about my motives are moot.
And as for "Rat" aka "Jacek" aka "Tjaoz": I did give you my reasons. Read them up in the mailing list (if you are able to read). But on each new posting of yours you give me more and more reasons and confirm that my decision was right. You live next door to Elbox. You use every single moment of your life to promote their products and bash competitors. Everyone can check this, check your postings on the list, in the forum, and they will draw their conclusions. As for me, I don't see any reasons to respond to you any further. Simply because there is no reason in your head.
You keep repeating the same things over and over again, purposely omitting other important information and statements. Give it a rest, nobody wants to hear it anymore.
To voxel: it's not about the licencing or about money (at least, this is a very very minor part of the whole story).
To all: You see, I'm doing my software for fun. The moment it stops to be fun, I'll bail out. Normally, this has got nothing to do with the users, which are in most cases the best users you can think of -- supportive, thankful and nagging. It's not that I'm wanting to hurt the users. But ceasing the registration is the only means I've got. I cannot afford to sue Elbox. At this point, I'd rather would.
This has got nothing to do with Michael Boehmer. I'm an indivually thinking entity, not attached like a hunchback to some other person.
Maybe tomorrow I can get it all online. I don't want all this conspiracy theory anymore.
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Hmmmm....
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@Doobrey
Why don`t you give it a rest, everywhere I look I see you bad mouthing Chris Hodges, on the Highway Yahoo group, on ANN, on Amigaworld, you sound like a whining little kid who`s had his football taken away.
I am writing about facts between myself and Hodges. If this gives bad impression of Hodges, it only means that his behaviour has been improper. My personal experience shows that he is a dishonest person.
I like the way all your "proof" of Chris and Micheal Boehemer comes from Elbox.. yeah, they`re nice and trustworthy aren`t they ?
What I am writing about Hodges and Elbox comes from my own experience.
I bought keys for Poseidon with Hodges, and he erased them after a few months out of his whims. He even did not bother to write me an email in this issue.
I bought a number of items from Elbox. All of them perform excellent. I can always count on help from their technical support. Yes, they really are very helpful and friendly.
( Remember the "We havent got RDB trashing code in our drivers " lie?)
As usually, the tale of people who do not have Elbox hardware.
When there is nothing you can complain about, you will make up stories like that of the RDB code. Do you remember when this affair broke out? November 2002, right after the WOASE fair, where Alan Redhouse of Eyetech informed that Pegasos boards (that just started selling) were based on defective ArticiaS chips. Something was needed to detract attention. Just read out who was so much caring about Mediator users at that time and you will find statements from the major Pegasos supporters. They preapred this issue and they were pretending to be most caring.
For Mediator users like me and many others, such actions are simple unimportant.
It has NOTHING to do with restricting competing products, check the VGR site, you can see for yourself there are other cards (not made by E3B) that Poseidon supports.
LOL. These PCI USB cards on the VGR site are VAPUORWARE. The info about these Ganymede1, Io1, Callisto1 cards has been there for many months, but no-one offers them.
It has nothing to do with money either..see your own quote about the fact that Chris gets LESS money selling it the OEM way.
It is about money and honesty of Chris Hodges.
Chris Hodges gets money directly from Spider users. Some people here suggest that Hodges would like to take the same money once again, now as the OEM licence.
Dude, I hope Chris sues your sorry arse for the libel you`ve been spreading about.
What libel am I spreading about Hodges, man?
He switched off my keys without giving any reason. That's a fact. About suing: I have filed a complaint against Hodges with the German federation of consumers.
And you wonder why he stopped your reg key??
Yes. I am very much amazed why Hodges switched off my registration keys for the Poseidon.
Hodges did not have any reason for this and he never stated any specific reason. He switched off my keys in March, right after I wrote in the Highway ML that I have found an error in the Algor specs. And this is a fact, either.
I have never wrote anything against Chris Hodges or his product, the Poseidon stack, before his switching off my keys.
Anyway. why are you so annoyed, according to the Elbox Spider page, they`ve got their own USB stack almost ready to go.
I have already paid for the USB stack to Hodges and I do not want to pay for the stack second time.
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@platon42
And as for "Rat" aka "Jacek" aka "Tjaoz": I did give you my reasons. Read them up in the mailing list (if you are able to read).
A LIE.
Chris, you have never given any specific reason for your switching off my keys. You only wrote that you had had some vague reasons, but you never stated them. You are a liar, Chris, you know it very well.
But on each new posting of yours you give me more and more reasons and confirm that my decision was right. You live next door to Elbox.
What are you writing, Chris!?
You have switched off my keys in March 2003 as in August 2003 you got a confirmation that your decision was ok? Something is very bad with your head!
So what that I live in the same city (http://www.krakow.pl/en/) as Elbox has its office? Was it the reason for you to switch off my keys for Poseidon, for which I paid you?
You use every single moment of your life to promote their products
I'm an Elbox supporter. In my opinion their products are great. They respect each one of their users. They are very supportive. In my opinion, this is the only real professional company in the Amiga market.
I am a free person and i can write things that reflect my feelings.
and bash competitors.
I wrote several times that USB 1.1 is obsolete, which is a commonly known fact. Nothing to do with bashing anybody.
Just look at yourself. Every time, you Chris are trying to write bad things about Elbox products. You have suggested in public many times that the price for Spider USB 2.0 is too high. That's so funny, because I have never seen you write that E3B cards are too expensive. And they are much more expensive than Spider, although these are only USB 1.1 controllers.
As for me, I don't see any reasons to respond to you any further. Simply because there is no reason in your head.
I do not expect any response from you, Chris. For several months, I have been asking you about reasons for your switching off my keys. Nothing, you are not responding. You are only writing that you had some terrible reasons. And you are not responding, because you have nothing to say. You simply switched off my keys after I had written about error info in the Algor specs. Now it is clear.
You keep repeating the same things over and over again, purposely omitting other important information and statements. Give it a rest, nobody wants to hear it anymore.
Why are you talking on behalf of others? How do you know what people would like to read about? Just speak for yourself, please. For a liar like you, making others aware of truth about you might not be so good.
To all: You see, I'm doing my software for fun. The moment it stops to be fun, I'll bail out. Normally, this has got nothing to do with the users,
Good that you are writing software for fun. Still, remember that when you take money for using this software, since that moment you are bound with the same regulations which apply to any seller. You cannot tell your client that you have taken money from him for fun, and that you switch off his keys.
But ceasing the registration is the only means I've got. I cannot afford to sue Elbox. At this point, I'd rather would.
All your attacks and false statements against Elbox are so much telling about you. Elbox always kindly responds to your attacks. If I were them, I would be more definite.
If anybody missed Hodges last message against Elbox, it is here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/highway_usb/message/853). And here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/highway_usb/message/870) is the response from Elbox.
From these messages it is clear that how easily Hodges make false statements against Elbox, with no grounds for them. That's slander.
This has got nothing to do with Michael Boehmer. I'm an indivually thinking entity, not attached like a hunchback to some other person.
Really?
So how would you explain the fact that you switched off my Poseidon keys right after I noticed false information in the Algor specs and wrote about it in the Highway ML? This confirms Michael Boehmer having impact on your behaviour.
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Edited by Kees - Personal insult
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To tjaoz:
And our personal experience tells us that you're a troll. Now cut the crap.
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Edit by Kees - Personal insult
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It looks like we Amigans are happy and friendly
bunch of People :-D
PEACE!!!
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As usually, the tale of people who do not have Elbox hardware.
When there is nothing you can complain about, you will make up stories like that of the RDB code
Whoaaaaa. Hold on there. This is a very old, and very tired subject, but I will not have people claiming that the RDB story is made up.
I am a mediator user (if you want proof, I wrote SuperTV). The malicious RDB code *DID* exist, and I verified its existance in pci.library on MY system myself. I saw it with my own eyes. Elbox outright lied at the time, claiming there was no such code.
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@ tjaoz :
>And what was the meaning of the sentence:
'Registration of the Poseidon stack for Mediator users will be provided by Chris Hodges,'
which is in their website here? (link to an old news page somewhere on the website)
Do you really think that the common user that want to buy an usb card for his Amiga will do a site search to find obscure pages one years old before validating his order? NO, but he would have to.
Most of the times he will read the category page : http://www.buy.elbox.com/cgibin/shop?info=770S20 ,
and eventually follow the link in it to the product page where it can find more infos (they said) : http://www.elbox.com/products/spider_usb_20_pci.html
but don't go any further.
And on these two pages, the most visible to the average user, it is NOT stated that you cant use the card WITHOUT poseidon and that you MUST register it yourself to do so and there is no links to any news pages...
>i.e; the small part of code that's needed by Poseidon to recognize WHAT USB CARD is present in the Amiga
>You are completely ignorant what you are writing about.
It is said that UHCI and OHCI drivers are included for Amithlon and Mediator systems.
Let see the USB Host Controler Interface (UHCI) design guide :
1. OVERVIEW
A USB Host System is composed of a number of hardware and software layers.
* USB Driver (USBD). The USBD system software that supports USB in a particular operating system.
* Client driver software. This software executes on the host PC corresponding to a particular USB device. Client
software is typically part of the operating system or provided with the USB device.
Hey! is it not here that we found Poseidon services ? :-) lets continue...
* Host Controller Driver (HCD). HCD provides the software layer between the Host Controller hardware and the
USBD. The UHCI's HCD interprets requests from the USBD and builds Frame List, Transfer Descriptor, Queue
Head, and data buffer data structures for the Host Controller. The data structures are built in system memory
and contain all necessary information to provide end-to-end communication between client software in the host
and devices on the USB.
* Host Controller (HC). The Host Controller is managed by the HCD software layer. The UHCI's Host Controller
executes the schedule lists generated by HCD and reports the status of transactions on the USB to HCD.
Command execution includes generating serial bus token and/or data packets based on the command and
initiating transmission on USB. For commands that require the Host Controller to receive data from the USB
device, the Host Controller receives the data and then transfers it to the system memory pointed to by the
command. The UHCI's HCD provides sufficient commands and data to keep ahead of the Host Controller
execution and analyzes the results as the commands are completed.
This is what Elbox is providing : interface beetween the USB controler CHIPs on the Spider, memory and Poseidon services.
And poseidon is providing the interface between USB Devices and it's services drivers (masstorage.class, hid.class, ect...) through the UHCI or OHCI drivers.
* USB Device. This is a hardware device that performs a useful end-user function. Interactions with USB devices
flow from the applications through the software and hardware layers to the USB devices.
And that is the usefull hardware thingies you want to connect to your USB card (printer, scanner, card reader, keyboards, etc, ect...) :-P
So if you remove the UHCI/OHCI drivers (spideruhci.device or whatever it is called), you dont have access to the USB controler and Poseidon is unable to access the USB devices connected to it,
and if you remove Poseidon you have a useless USB card... :-P
Amigalement,
Jean-François, Amiga ONLY since 1985.
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1. This was Chris Hodges who approached Elbox with the proposal of co-operation.
Not Elbox, but CHRIS CHOSE DIRECT USER REGISTRATION. That was Hodges decision and Elbox accepted it. Read more about it here.
2. Hodges explained that in this way he received more money from each user than in case of the OEM licence.
3. Elbox clearly informs that Poseidon stack needs to be bought separately, see Spider page. Elbox USB 2.0 DRIVERS for Poseidon stack are enclosed with the Spider card.
1- true
2- true
3- true, i've read it when the first news about spider comes uot on elbox pages. You acn read it wheneven on the Spider pages on Elbox site.
The rdb story s old, i'm with elbox because dce is famous for stole driver from mediator and prometeus. The rdb cose enter in action only you if do ILLEGAL thing with elbox drivers. In all cases Elbox removes these codes form the divers.
Elbox enemies use this story for their purpose.
Do you say that tjaoz are repeating always the same things? It seems to me taht you are doing these.
And on the Poseidon site, you can read that the support for the ALREADY registered users will cease in the future....... Thanks for these Chris, thanks for killing amiga market.
I hope that you sellings of oldzorro usb 1.1, clockport, hack hardware from E3B goes well.
Thanks to much.
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/highway_usb/message/870
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[... snip rant ...]
Forget it. I can't be bothered. Lets just say I believe elbox behaved badly in the past.
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Agreeing to stuff tjaoz wrote, will not make it any closer to the truth.
> And on the Poseidon site, you can read that the support for the ALREADY registered users will cease in the future.......
Pardon me? Where did you read that? Back to elementary school please. Ikir, I usually believed that your postings were above the level of those of Rat. But now you seem to try twisting my words on purpose. You have read the announcement two weeks ago, and you know, that you want to let people here think of that I wrote something different on my homepage. Are you a Spider user BTW? Or are you just jumping the line?
>Thanks for these Chris, thanks for killing amiga market.
Sure, I think it'd better leave these lovely and supporting users behind, leave the classic amiga market and go for MorphOS only. Everything I do and did for the Amiga is voluntarily work. I don't make a living of it. I can leave at any time. Do you want me to?
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Edited by Kees - Personal insult
Multiple posts were deleted
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No more insulting and no more trolling
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socks
:-P
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Dear Kees,
I was astonished to see that you have removed all my yesterday's responses to the messages by Chris Hodges/platon42, to the message by Jean-François/voxel and to the message by Kaminari.
To remind you the posts I am writing about, here (http://jacek.szczurek.w.interia.pl/Poseidon_reg_end.htm) is the backup of this discussion from yesterday at 23:06 CET, when I sent my last post.
I cannot understand why you have removed my message to Jean-François/voxel, because my post only included indication of elementary erroneous information which Jean-François/voxel wrote about the Spider website. Could you explain please why my response to this message was removed and why you have marked it 'personal insults?' The post by Jean-François/voxel included complete misinformation, so why is a response to it not welcome by you?
I cannot understand why you have removed my message to Kaminari, whom I asked whom he was representing by his writing: 'And our personal experience tells us that you're a troll.'
In my messages to Chris Hodges I clearly and reliably present facts from Chris' behaviour against myself, that is his client. Chris Hodges is earning money in the Amiga market. Persons like him have the same obligations like any other business company. However, what Chris is doing to his clients, cannot be included in any civilised principles.
When Chris Hodges yesterday sent me away to a therapist, you did not remove his message. When Chris Hodges insulted me and others, you were tolerating his behaviour, and when I responded to his posts, you simply removed all my answers. Could you explain why?
When Chris Hodges insulted me some time ago in Amiga.org (in this thread (http://amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2574)), twisting my name, none of the moderators reacted. Could you explain why?
Chris Hodges writes to Ikir in this thread: 'Back to elementary school please.'
You have left this text by Chris and you removed my response to this insult. Could you explain why you removed only my response?
Is Chris Hodges entitled to offending people, but responding to his insulting posts is not allowed?
My impression is that you removed my responses when I started asking Chris questions, with which he cannot feel comfortable. There is no any reason why he could have switched off my keys, because I had never written anything against him beforehand. Thus he cannot give any links to prove his point.
Would it be wrong if people reading amiga.org learned who Hodges really is? Is it all right that amiga.org attempts to hide the real behaviour of Chris Hodges?
Is showing unethical behaviour of Chris Hodges against users of the Poseidon stack and against Elbox something that you would like to hide before the readers of Amiga.org?
Best regards,
Jacek Szczurek
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@tjaoz
Your other post has been obliterated. You have made your point in this singular post. There is absolutely no reason to multiple post the same links. It has been removed. Amen.
Further, you have now officially crossed the line. When you are on Amiga.Org, you WILL respect the moderators. I understand you have a dispute with Mr. Hodges. It is understandable that you are both on different sides of an arguement. Kees also came back and cleaned up some of the mess left by the other side.
You did not adhere to the law of common sense, "If you have a problem with a moderator, take it to the webmaster." By slandering the moderator, and therefore the site FIRST, you have put me in the position to take action that I do not like to do. You are suspended from posting until September 1.
DO NOT SLANDER MODERATORS
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tjoaz
I know you will read this. If we catch you trying to post on Amiga.org under a different username prior to September 1 (US Central time, midnight), you will be permanantly banned.
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You may shorten the suspension by emailing Kees, and any other two moderators explaining how you will not throw out accusations everytime you post in the future. Further, you will apologize to Kees immediately after your suspension is removed.
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Requirements met. Three moderators and/or admins have agreed that tjoaz has shown good faith, and has had his rights restored.
Thank you tjoaz for emailing in private.
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Voluntarily work? 20 EURO for every user is not voluntuarily work!!!
From Poseidon USB homepage:
"Users, who have registered before this date are not (yet) affected. Eventually, the free updates will cease at some point (but not this year). "
You ARE ATTACKING THE AMIGA USERS WHO SUPPORTS YOUR SOFTWARE!!!
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What do i want? I think you are a good programmer, and i like to see you support the amiga comunity.
I will not ever buy a silly card like subway, highway or Algor. These are very old solution based on clock (OMG) port and Zorro.......
If i'll buy a USB card it will be a Spider, and again: i like your software i don't uderstand your doings.
PROUD AMIGA USER, ikir
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All I can say is that I've been a proud owner of the Highway card teamed
with Chris Hodges' Poseidon USB stack since its' introduction.
And as for support, Chris has offered me solutions and suggestions
"one on one" without so much as a request for thanks. Yeah, I paid
for registration already and it's been worth every penny
of it and more. There's been more than a years worth of free updates to all
registered users. That's UNHEARD of in any other platform! So the free
upgrades will cease at some point in time So What!! When the time comes
I'll gladly fork out the fee requested for that upgrade! I know the stability
of the program AND it's Writer!! Chris, I'll support your works so long as you care to
provide them to the Amiga community. Long may you reign.
To Tjaos: It's chumps like you that drove Wayne out of the fighter's chair
at the bow of this web site! Thanks for all YOU'VE done!!
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just a little note to tjaoz :^)
Yes you're right, I forget EHCI driver is provided with spider. Thanx to remind me :-)
BTW, according to it's specs, EHCI is what it's name says : an "Ehanced" HCI for usb 2.0 hardware controlers, it works together as a complementary layer of the USB UHCI/OHCI control software, like UHCI but for usb 2 controler chipset.
So my precedent post is still valid :-P
Amigalement,
Jean-François, Amiga ONLY since 1985 and until earth cease spinning ;^)
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Please ... lets just leave it as it is now ok ?
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