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Title: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: amigamad on July 15, 2003, 03:39:56 PM
On the brink of losing a pivotal account to an ascending rival, Microsoft last March dispatched CEO Steve Ballmer to the rescue.
The German city of Munich was balking at a $36.6 million proposal from Microsoft to upgrade 14,000 desktop PCs to the latest versions of Windows and Office. Instead, Munich -- Germany's third-largest city and a technology hub for Central Europe -- was leaning toward a switch to Linux, the upstart computer operating system whose open-source code is continually improved by volunteer programmers worldwide.

the link is here http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030714/5320229s.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030714/5320229s.htm)

Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: DJRJ on July 15, 2003, 04:06:14 PM
I'm going to bed tonight just chock-full of warm fuzzy feelings over this...   :-D

Remember, sometime tonight there's a Redmond executive getting has arse kicked.

Doug
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: mikeymike on July 15, 2003, 04:07:02 PM
And there was much rejoicing.

/me waves a little flag.  Yay.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: asian1 on July 15, 2003, 04:14:17 PM
Hello
SUSE got the large project, because SUSE is a German
company and employ german programmers & technical
support staff.

Deutsche Welle mention this news on "Made In German"
show and they show staff from other cities in German
learning about the Linux e-government test case
project.

Deutsche Welle try to interview Hyperion and Bplan,
but unfortunately the 2 companies reject the offer.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: amigau on July 15, 2003, 04:30:50 PM
this is how it felt for Netscape, WordPerfect, Borland, etc. - how does it feel, M$?  pretty humiliating, huh?  I guess Steve "eraserhead" ballmer will get some 'tough love' (meaning yell fit) from ol BG....

I love it!

kevin orme
amiga university
www.amigau.com
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: amigamad on July 15, 2003, 04:41:53 PM
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SUSE got the large project, because SUSE is a German   company and employ german programmers & technical
support staff



Its good to see they support there country .Rather than go for the expensive and unreliable way.
 :-)
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: DanDude on July 15, 2003, 05:36:50 PM
Bwahahahahahahaha....
I wonder if they got that leaked memo from Microsoft corp. about their Linux issue?
 :-D
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: KennyR on July 15, 2003, 06:01:22 PM
It's worth paying $37 million not to use Microsoft software. Linux may be crap, but Windows is even worse.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: ne_one on July 15, 2003, 06:06:27 PM
Hopefully a few people reading this thread will recognize an important point. Linux has two very compelling solutions that give it credibility: an office suite (Open Office) and browser (Mozilla) that both could easily add instant credibility to the AmigaOS/MorphOS platforms.

Just once I'd like to hear some constructive feedback on how Genesi/Amiga see this. The community has so far donated more money to this cause than both have spent on t-shirts.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Turrican on July 15, 2003, 07:53:29 PM
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Just once I'd like to hear some constructive feedback on how Genesi/Amiga see this. The community has so far donated more money to this cause than both have spent on t-shirts.


Usualy I don't like trolling but this time I couldn't help it! You really meant the money *Genesi* have spent on t-shirts didn't you?
And let's not forget that they actually *do* support such causes in a varius ways.

Sorry for the bad spelling / grammar. As always, my English are in beta   :-P
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: bhoggett on July 15, 2003, 08:14:32 PM
The real significance of this story is that it has broken into the main media channels, rather than being relegated to the usual industry publications.  Various suits around the world who wouldn't go near a technical publication are hearing about Linux as a viable alternative to Microsoft for the very first time.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: cecilia on July 15, 2003, 08:51:36 PM
i'm jumping up and down! :-D
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Jupp3 on July 15, 2003, 09:47:29 PM
This is a good example of "Everybody wins" -situation

(Well, everyone exept Microsoft, but that doesn't count...) :-)
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Blomberg on July 15, 2003, 09:57:03 PM
Yes!!   :pint:

More victories for alt. OS's in the future, please  :-)
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Quixote on July 15, 2003, 10:59:10 PM
From the site:
Quote
With Unilog, the consultant, recommending IBM-SuSE, Gallman stepped up lobbying for Microsoft. He arranged technical briefings with city tech staffers to elaborate on the advantages of Microsoft's bid. At a workshop, Microsoft ''gave detailed answers on all the issues and concerns in the (Unilog) study in exactly the same order'' as listed in the study, Maack says. ''They must have had a hard copy.''

Gallman denies that Microsoft obtained a copy. He says it could provide thorough answers based on its expertise. According to city fairness rules, neither side should have had a copy of the report.
:-? And where was the Unilog study kept?  That's right; on Munich's PC's running Windows®.  And who has the key to the back door on all Windows® PC's?  That's right...
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Ilwrath on July 16, 2003, 01:44:30 AM
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And where was the Unilog study kept? That's right; on Munich's PC's running Windows®. And who has the key to the back door on all Windows® PC's? That's right...


Honestly.... I highly doubt that is how Microsoft got a copy of that report...  However, it does bring up an interesting point.  Countries are finally starting to realize that it isn't wise to trust your systems to 3rd party companies that are outside your sphere of control.  Linux didn't win this quote on it's price or technical merits.  It won this quote on it's freedom and control merits.  Let's hope the lights start turning on elsewhere, as well.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Hammer on July 16, 2003, 08:51:06 AM
There’re seems to be a small movement in some countries for operating system independence e.g. China (e.g. Chinese Linux), ??SE Asia (Turbo Linux),  Japan (??), Germany (e.g. Suse), France (Mandrake) United States (Red Hat Linux**, Lindows, SUN Linux, IBM Linux, Lycoris), Australia (Locus’s Linux) (just to name a few).    

**Supported by Dell Computers Corp.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: mikeymike on July 16, 2003, 03:07:35 PM
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And where was the Unilog study kept? That's right; on Munich's PC's running Windows®. And who has the key to the back door on all Windows® PC's? That's right...


It is far more likely that a management type who was pro the MS solution showed the report to MS so that they could fight their corner better.  Or even more likely that the report was freely available to all competitors in the potential sale.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Quixote on July 16, 2003, 05:58:46 PM
@Mikeymike:

;-) You are correct that it was more likely to be a human sympathizer who handed a paper copy to Microsoft.  However, the site mentioned that to be fair, neither vendor should have had a copy of the report.
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: Fats on July 16, 2003, 08:36:20 PM
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The real significance of this story is that it has broken into the main media channels, rather than being relegated to the usual industry publications.


(No direct reply to bhogget though) OK, but how does it belong on the amiga.org homepage ? If Fleecy talking about Amiga (although with not much contents) on a weekly basis is nothing worth to put on the front page I don't think this belongs on the front page. It is not related to amiga and the people who want to follow such news have much better sites to visit (a la /. (http://www.slashdot.org/))
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: mikeymike on July 16, 2003, 09:49:26 PM
If you want an obscure link to the Amiga, Mozilla might get ported to it, hence the bounty on it.

If you want the truth, everyone at amiga.org likes to see MS get a good kicking from time to time :-)
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: poweramiga2002 on July 17, 2003, 12:02:26 AM
GOOD TOO HEAR DOWN WITH MICRO SH#T

The world will be a better place without it
Title: Re: Linux Took on Microsoft, and Won Big in Munich
Post by: pellerhead on July 17, 2003, 07:47:33 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAH!
I was wondering what old Baldie Ballmer looked like after blowing that deal........GREAT avatar Blomberg!!!!  :-D