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Title: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: ID4 on July 02, 2003, 11:33:18 PM
Sourceforge-project Java for Amiga OS 4 and 3.9 (JAmiga).
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jamiga/

Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: FuZion on July 03, 2003, 12:28:14 AM
Excellent! :-D

Check all those '0's in the version number. Landmark that you know ;-)

Now, would anybody mind unpacking that file & placing the package somewhere for me to download as I don't have any of the systems on the list :-)
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: Herewegoagain on July 03, 2003, 12:59:11 AM
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Excellent!


Most Excellent!  

Seriously...this is great news if they actually make it work.  The previous efforts didn't do too well, as I recall.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: tormedhammaren on July 03, 2003, 02:00:50 AM
The Open Source way is the one to go. This can
be a slammer! But why 3.9 and not 3.5 and less?
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: Jose on July 03, 2003, 05:26:58 AM
Nice very very nice.   I hope they succed .
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: Rodney on July 03, 2003, 05:42:42 AM
being open source, this should at one point get ported to AROS and MOS... Maybe then, the first person to package Jazilla as an amiga program will get the Amizilla bounty? :-D
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: N7VQM on July 03, 2003, 06:16:12 AM
How do you pronounce that?  Ya-miga?   :-P
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: hnl_dk on July 03, 2003, 06:26:12 AM
Hope it will be made :-D
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: Ponos2D on July 03, 2003, 07:32:13 AM
Uuuuu good!

Something is going on :-)
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: JoNty on July 03, 2003, 11:01:02 AM
Isn't 1.3.1 an old version?
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: redcougar on July 03, 2003, 11:20:46 AM
@JoNty

I think it's new enough, we are using it at work with no problems. Actually if we install newer version, it gives some problems with our internal systems.

Anyways, I hope these guys pull this trough, big thumbs up for them.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: teo on July 03, 2003, 11:35:43 AM
@JoNty
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Isn't 1.3.1 an old version?


Unfortunately It is, 1.4.1 is fairly standard now, and we are on the verge of 1.5 (in beta). there are some features in 1.4 that i couldnt live without, but 1.3 is a good start at least and would be much appreciated by yours truly.

And heres hoping tomcat will make an appearance on amiga, for thou rocketh...
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: Fot on July 03, 2003, 11:45:24 AM
Yeah, we also still use 1.3.1 with our call tracking system at work. Newer versions cause it to play up. Anyway, good luck with the project.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: SidMan on July 03, 2003, 01:34:01 PM
This sounds positive. Good news  :-)
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: gnarly on July 03, 2003, 02:48:27 PM
This is promising - they actually have something to show for their work so far.

Hopefully some people will join in and help now...
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: amigamad on July 03, 2003, 03:15:50 PM
HOW TO INSTALL JAMIGA

Only a few simple steps to get this thing running:

1.) Obtain the JAmiga-package, unzip it into any folder of your choice.

2.) Go to sun's website (http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/download.html) and download their JDK 1.3.1 (1.4.x should also work) for a platform of your choice (well, you should HAVE that platform...)
ATTENTION! We recommend that you chose the Windows Version. Others have NOT been tested!

3.) find the location of the rt.jar - file that's included in the JDK

4.) use jar to "unzip" it  >jar xvf rt.jar (a UNZIP Utility should work as well, you may have to rename the file into rt.zip)

5.) copy the folders /java/lang, /java/io and /java/util to the same folder as the JAmiga-executable is (if you go via network you may want to zip it up again)

6.) Now JAmiga *should* work

try:

JAmiga -?  
  > prints some help

JAmiga HelloWorld
  > Runs the HelloWorld - class (guess what it does)

JAmiga -p HelloWorld
  > Produces (a lot of) debug output for the class

ENJOY !!!
 :-)

I have not tried it this is just the info on installing it taken from the archive
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: Herewegoagain on July 03, 2003, 05:27:00 PM
So has anyone attempted this?  And if so, has anyone tried it under OS3.5?  I'm assuming that JAmiga is dependent on something specifically in OS3.9 or greater.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: elendil on July 03, 2003, 06:13:22 PM
I will definately look forward to when it is up to date in, say, a week or so.

You better step on it, developers :)

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: toRus on July 04, 2003, 03:50:51 AM
Just tried it. It didn't work at first.  I did a zip archive of the needed JDK 1.3.1 classes in my lame PeeCee and unarchived it at my Amiga's RAM. The problem was that some nested classes have rather long filenames (e.g. Hashtable$EmptyEnumerator.class) and unzip had to replace them with previously unarchived ones.
I opted to extract directly to my PFS3 partition and I had success (ran HelloWorld) even though some classes were still missing/replaced.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: ronybeck on July 04, 2003, 04:12:19 AM
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The Open Source way is the one to go


Yes!!  This is what people don't understand.  Open Source is what M$ is afraid of.  A skillful programer can make Open Source Software work on Amiga OS4 in a short amount of time.  This makes the prospect of filling the OS4 software profile not so daunting and with in a much shorter space of time.

What do other people think?
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: KennyR on July 04, 2003, 04:30:07 AM
Open sourcing has its good and bad points. It's not the super-solution you all seem to think it is. The good things are: its free, stuff can be easily ported (in theory), and development doesn't rely on a single author.

But the bad things are that it can make too many versions of a single program, that the standard of open source code often falls FAR behind commercial stuff, and that often the code gets so mangled and bloated by different coders that it gets neigh on impossible to port. Mozilla anyone?
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: toRus on July 04, 2003, 04:30:24 AM
OK, I used setfnsize to increase the max filenamesize of my HD partition. Be careful, once it is increased the only way to decrease or reset it to default value is reformat the partition !!!

I also tried JDK 1.4.2 classes. The included examples worked without problems. But when I tried some 1.4.x specific code though (regex) I crashed badly :-(
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: toRus on July 04, 2003, 04:37:42 AM
Java is not open source (yet). But it's free, in a good way, not in a M$ way and it has tremendous support and upside.
Bringing Java to Amiga is not an easy task and I doubt it can happen without some serious support and changes in AmigaOS. But, if done, it could be the best thing that can happen to Amiga platform.
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: TurboLaban on July 04, 2003, 10:19:04 AM
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Java is not open source (yet)


Well, actually, it is. You can get the source code to the J2SE on Suns java pages.
http://wwws.sun.com/software/java2/

The license is quite strict, though...

--
Glenn Hisdal
Title: Re: Java for AmigaOS 4.0 and 3.9
Post by: bloodline on July 05, 2003, 10:11:38 PM
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being open source, this should at one point get ported to AROS and MOS... Maybe then, the first person to package Jazilla as an amiga program will get the Amizilla bounty?


Yup, If it's open source and compiles on AmigaOS, an AROS port will be quick and simple.