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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Hardware News => Topic started by: fnord on June 27, 2003, 07:03:18 PM
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The Coldfire Project (http://www.cdtv.org.uk/coldfire/) now seems to have a prototype working in an A4000. For more information have a look at the site's news section (http://www.cdtv.org.uk/coldfire/1207.html) or at some pictures of the PCB (http://www.cdtv.org.uk/coldfire/1216.html).
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Very good news, Oliver :-)
The "work in progress" go on.
Ciao
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Cool!!
I'll want one for my 3000, one of my 1200's, my 500 and my 1000.
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Well done Oliver!
I want an A1200 version pretty please! :-D
And fastest CPU you can get working on it too! ;-)
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Hi
Well done Oliver!
Thanks guys, now I just have to get it working. :-D
Hmm, just re-read the topic , the card isnt working yet, A new PCB has just arrived.
At the moment the power is up on the board but thats it, I dont know why the poster thought it was working.. sorry guys
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On Olivers page:
Actually any Amiga with a fast slot and no other CPU
Does that include an A3000/3000T with properly set jumpers?
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Nice one ill buy one for an a4000 i have when you get them completed. :-)
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Great stuff!
I also want one for one of my A1200. Then I also have to have a Mediator with a VooDoo 3. I'll also need a tower then.
Damn :-) ; all three Amiga 1200's towered then! Where am I going to leave all this stuff. :-)
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Sign me up! ;-)
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Hi,
Does that include an A3000/3000T with properly set jumpers?
The prototype wont work in an Amiga 3000 (do the tower versions have an onboard CPU? I would think so and in which case it wouldnt work on them either) as the prototype is missing the custom chip for bus takeover, that will be added latter when everythings working.
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As soon as there's a CD32 version, I'm getting one.
Then I'll a get a CD32. :-)
Oliver, well done on your continued progress.
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Just give me an A1200 version..
Well I would of course pay for it.. but make it...
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my 4000 is waiting for this ;)
when will it be released ? hope it will be earlier than the date my 4000 will give up :-/
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Nice!
Keep up the good work, and good luck.
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The Coldfire Project now seems to have a prototype working in an A4000.
Where does it say it's actually working? All I can see is some mock-ups of the card with some components placed on it.
Not trying to put down anyone, but perhaps we should not be over optimistic? :-)
Someone correct me if it is actually working.
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Don't forget to make it fit on a desktop A1200!
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this would ROCK for a desktop A1200....
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I really hope he doesn't try to get it in a desktop A1200. A tower design would be much better. More room for components and a somewhat bigger board can be used that would keep the costs down and would also allow a normal DIMM slot.
This thing is only usefull for when used with a Mediator and a VooDoo 3,4,5 anyway.
Phase 5 should never have tried to make the BlizzardPPC for a dekstop solution also.
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Hi,
Where does it say it's actually working? All I can see is some mock-ups of the card with some components placed on it.
Correct, it isnt working, At the moment its just the power side thats working. (no other components are on)
I dont know why it says the card is actually working. :-?
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I dont know why it says the card is actually working.
ZONK!:-P
This prototype has Firewire (400mbps), USB (1.1), AC97 sound, SDRam, 150Mhz Coldfire and works in the Amiga 4000 (Actually any Amiga with a fast slot and no other CPU)
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Hi,
ZONK!
Ahh....
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@PulsatingQuasar
Couldn't disagree more !!
If I wanted another fast big-box Amiga for RTG-SW, I would just setup an extra PC for Amithlon.
Having that in my 15 or 16 year old A2000 would be COOOOOOL.
Having that in desktop-A1200, and add this (http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/aminet/hard/hack/A2024BigColor.readme) (*) to it would be cool beyond believe. Add a SubWay to it, maybe
with a (internel) slimline CD-RW and a USB_2_Etherenet-adapter ... hmmmmmmm.
Having that in yet another PC-tower, would be quite boring.
* a hack that allows to use the internals of a A2024-monitor as some sort of super FF.
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@Kronos
I seriously don't see why running something this fast in a desktop A1200 would be usefull.
Next to the the 2 towered A1200 machines with a BlizzardPPC I also have a desktop with a Blizzard-1230-IV and I can really say; AGA for desktop usage sucks.
I have managed to get 800x600 on my M1438 but it only runs acceptable with 64 colors. It's multisync running at 83 Hz.
A desktop with a size of 640x480 is really not acceptable. Both my towered systems run a 1024x768 desktop in 16-bit color @ 75 Hz on 15 inch monitors and that rulez. The Voodoo 3 rulez somewhat more then the BVisionPPC because I can drag as many Windows as I want visible and things begin to stutter with the BVisionPPC when more then 4 are open..
So the only possible usage for something this fast would be with a Mediator and a Voodoo 3,4 or 5. Then you would get a damn fast AmigaOS 3.9. And I would really like to see that.
Without a graphic card you don't really get a full experience of OS 3.9 and with such a fast CPU; it's going to be better then my BlizzardPPC systems.
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It depends on what you want:
If you want a fast Amiga to run modern SW, and that based on comnon sense
(hmm Amiga and common sense ? Ain't that contratiction?),than Amithlon or WinUAE is they way to go.
But if you want a geek-toy (and the CF is not gonna be more) you should go for
a real geek-toy ....
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Yeah, but that's no fun! I still only use my REAL Amiga's.
I don't run WinUAE and I don't have Amithlon.
And as for a geek toy; An Amiga1200 in a tower with the ColdFire accelarator and PCI slots via the Mediator with a Voodoo and ethernet card is probably the geekiest system. OK then, also a PowerFlyer.
Maybe the PowerFlyer will be really used then and that 16.6 MB/s for PIO 4 will actually be reached!
It's going to be a kick-ass system.
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"geekiest system" ??
Sorry but "my" 200+mhz-CF-Amiga with internal CD-RW, etherenet and the possiblility
to run at 1024x800 on the orginal chipest in the orginal case is "geekier" ..... :-D
The difference between a towered Amiga with Voodoo to an A1 or Pegasos is far
to little, and it isn't even used anymore (the A1200-mobo is just there to keep the bits
together, and maybe acts like an IO-card).
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It'd be cool if you could put some kind of PCI slot on this; then one could put an updated graphics card in an A2000 :-) (or even sideways on an A1000 :) )
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AFAIK the A2000-version is planned with a single PCI-slot.
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I hate to be a party pooper, but after reading your (very nice) website, am I the only one that’s worried that something as wonderful as the Coldfire Project is being developed by a man that doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their” or “to” and “too”?
I know a good grasp of English is no reason to doubt your ability to produce this product, but considering that you are British and that developing a CPU card is no walk in the park (if it was that easy and JoannaK is half as good as she claims she is then she’d have made a working version in her sleep by now and we’d all be using them), I find it hard to believe that you make these basic errors.
Perhaps the BoXeR, Iwin and “Amiga on a PCI Card” projects have made me suspicious and if you really are genuine then I apologise and you can put me down for either a A1200T or an A3000 version when they become available. It’s just that everything you have shown and everything you have claimed are very easy to fake. Hell, Iwin even had a press conference!!! Anyway, I’ll be watching your progress with interest and hope to see a "OS3.9 on a Coldfire Tour" soon – good luck.
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Darrin spewed the following illogic:
I hate to be a party pooper, but after reading your (very nice) website, am I the only one that’s worried that something as wonderful as the Coldfire Project is being developed by a man that doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their” or “to” and “too”?
Oh for crying out loud!!! That's the worst &@*# logic I've ever heard. Half the engineers I know can't spell correctly if their life depends on it. It doesn't make them bad engineers, just really bad proofreaders.
And the above mentioned mistakes are not that big, He probably just wrote it in a hurry.
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I hate to be a party pooper, but after reading your (very nice) website, am I the only one that’s worried that something as wonderful as the Coldfire Project is being developed by a man that doesn’t know the difference between “there” and “their” or “to” and “too”?
I know a good grasp of English is no reason to doubt your ability to produce this product, but considering that you are British and that developing a CPU card is no walk in the park (if it was that easy and JoannaK is half as good as she claims she is then she’d have made a working version in her sleep by now and we’d all be using them), I find it hard to believe that you make these basic errors.
Oh do shut up and f**k off, won't you? How's that for clear english? :roll:
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@Kronos:
Now how would that work, exactly? Would it be a normal PCI slot with leads to the back of the '2000's case or what?
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Oh for crying out loud!!! That's the worst &@*# logic I've ever heard. Half the engineers I know can't spell correctly if their life depends on it. It doesn't make them bad engineers, just really bad proofreaders.
This isn't a case of bad spelling - it's a case of not understanding English. These are the kind of errors I see made by:
1. The less educated.
2. People who do not speak English as a first language.
3. Young children.
Hareware designers tend to be very well educated, plus this guy lives in the UK, plus no-one has actually SEEN a functioning Coldfire...
Yeah, the report could have been made in a hurry and some typos crept in - god knows I make enough of them - but it's a repetitive error.
If the thing is real then I'm buying one, but the classic community has had smoke blown up it's backside before so can you blame me for being suspicious?
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Oh do shut up and f**k off, won't you? How's that for clear english?
I don't do requests - especially from lame wankers like you. Is that clear enough for you? Prick.
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I don't do requests - especially from lame wankers like you. Is that clear enough for you? Prick.
You:
"He's made spelling mistakes. He obviously is trying to rip us off like Mick Tinker, or worse. I don't trust him."
HOW DOES THIS NOT MAKE YOU THE STUPIDEST SON OF A BITCH ON THE PLANET?
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@Darrin
Hareware designers tend to be very well educated,
Yeah those damned Hareware designers just suck don't they. :lol:
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If I had to choose between excelling in either English grammar or hardware design, I'd choose hardware in a flash. It would take me less than a year to catch back up on my grammar. About 80% of the native English speakers I know have atrocious grammatical skills. You know what? Who cares? It's somewhat annoying in the magnitude with which it occurs, but it's no measure of anyones ability to get the job done.
...the classic community has had smoke blown up it's backside before...
By the way, the word it's is a contraction for the combination of it and is. The word its is possessive. The classic community has had smoke blown up it is backside? Pot, meet kettle.
Just to keep to the topic, I personally think it would be best to announce products when they're ready and available rather than months/years before they see the light of day. I'd hate to think I got all goosepimply for nothing. :-D
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By the way, the word it's is a contraction for the combination of it and is. The word its is possessive. The classic community has had smoke blown up it is backside? Pot, meet kettle.
Now you know why I don't design hardware (or hareware)!!! ;-)
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Darrin: Not so sure about being anything excellent, but I have made decent living designing these thingies for others some years now. Done various 8 bitters, 68k:s, PPC:s, with SDrams, ethernets, usb, Can-bus etc. so it's not so mysterious hitec to me.
But I would not start such a project without at least a couple GURU level coders decicated to a lot work ahead. Before even trying to make working card I had started CF-clean exec project on those evakits.. and most likely tried to make first limited emulator testing on them. It is the part where most problems lie. Emulating 68k Supervisor behavour (stack frames on interrupts, traps etc) on another CPU that ain't a bit compatible on those.
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Poster: Roj Date: 2003/6/30 3:18:07
Just to keep to the topic, I personally think it would be best to announce products when they're ready and available rather than months/years before they see the light of day. I'd hate to think I got all goosepimply for nothing.
Mhhh! so in that way AOne and Pegasos couldn't exists!
We are speaking of a project done by a single person, not by a "great" Company!
If you like the AmigaColfire Project good, if not . . . . for me it is the same :-)
@Darin
If the thing is real then I'm buying one, but the classic community has had smoke blown up it's backside before so can you blame me for being suspicious?
oh, yes you are free to be suspicious but . . . has someone took money in advance, for this project? . . .not.
Oliver Day, has a well payed job and a hobby: Amiga.
Has Oliver Day take money in advance to support his project? . . not.
So, we can only wait and see what will happens.
Money required=0
Ciao