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Title: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: Kees on June 07, 2003, 11:13:01 PM
On EETimes.com (http://www.eetimes.com) you can read that the SCO Group has a strong case against IBM and the entire Linux community.

"SCO Group revealed the foundation of its legal battle with the Linux community, when it rolled out evidence of large blocks of Linux code that it contends were stolen from Unix. Analysts who saw the samples of the allegedly stolen code said the evidence is damaging and that SCO Group has a formidable legal case."

Check out this article at EETimes.com (http://www.eetimes.com/sys/news/OEG20030606S0039) ...

Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: Ilwrath on June 08, 2003, 12:59:29 AM
Well, what SCO has is a lot of evidence that chunks of code are the same in SCO Unix and Linux.  

That's only one small bit of what they need to prove, though.  First off, they need to prove that it's SCO code in Linux, not Linux code in SCO.  Next, they need to prove that they didn't put it there, themselves.  Some pundits (http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030605.html) believe this to be a very good chance.  Then, after all of THAT, they have to prove that THEY (not Novell) own SCO Unix.

And, finally, once they do all of that, they need to prove that these actions actually DID tangible damage to SCO Unix, and try to figure out some way to collect on those.  

Personally, I'd bet AmigaOS4 will ship before SCOs case gets anywhere.  :-D  

What's yet to be seen is how all the FUD-flinging will affect the US Linux adoption rate...
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: SyrTran on June 08, 2003, 01:47:32 AM
Also, since the suit against IBM is about contract violations, they have to prove that the code did not exist in Linux BEFORE IBM started contributing.  Of course, this is assuming that it really IS SCO code -> Linux and not Linux code -> SCO, or BSD code -> SCO and Linux

They would also need to prove, in my mind anyway, that the 80 lines of code aren't there specifically to satisfy POSIX requirements (which ARE open) which, I believe, is the target  Linus was aiming for.
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: the_leander on June 08, 2003, 04:30:45 AM
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What's yet to be seen is how all the FUD-flinging will affect the US Linux adoption rate...


Well I've been watching this for a while and for the life of me I can't see what anyone has to gain, either in SCO who through this case has lost any shred of credibility in just about everyones eyes, or linux for potentially using dodgy code. No, wait, I can see someone who will benefit no matter the outcome... Microsoft, who just happen to be big shareholders in SCO....

Most levels who use Linux won't worry about this, but enterprise/government stuff will definately suffer because of this.  A non agressive monopolistic giant my arse. I hope the EU nail them to the wall when they start really looking into all of this.. would be interesting to see how M$ would react to a tax specifcally tied to them, or a watchdog there to make sure they don't pull any crap like this (as it is with BT over here in the UK with Oftel).
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: DanDude on June 08, 2003, 04:55:19 AM
God, I hope SCO loses.  Dorks.

:quickdraw:
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: DavidF215 on June 08, 2003, 04:56:49 AM
Solution: Buy AmigaOS.  :-)
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: Bodie on June 08, 2003, 05:59:34 AM
@DavidF215

I agree :-) .
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: DethKnight on June 08, 2003, 06:28:49 AM
@IIwrath

you forgot another thing

SCO distributed this code for months under the GPL
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: anarchic_teapot on June 08, 2003, 04:09:45 PM
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They would also need to prove, in my mind anyway, that the 80 lines of code aren't there specifically to satisfy POSIX requirements (which ARE open) which, I believe, is the target Linus was aiming for.

Good point.
And anyway, only 80 lines of code? Out of how many thousand?

Personally, I would find it extremely amusing if it turns out SCO is trying to lay claim to something which is in fact open source. ISTR MS also tried that one a little while ago.
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: mikeymike on June 08, 2003, 06:23:32 PM
And Microsoft is a client of the Aberdeen Group :-)

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6453 (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6453)
Title: Re: SCO Have a Good Case
Post by: DethKnight on June 19, 2003, 01:29:20 AM
Progress! Finally!

http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=104401