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Title: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Kees on June 07, 2003, 04:49:47 PM
The first pictures I could find are online now.

Check them out here (http://www.amiga-klub.si/aot2003report.php?lang=en) ...

We'll keep you updated

Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: bloodline on June 07, 2003, 04:55:21 PM
If you squint, you can almost see a boing ball!!!!  :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: The_Editor on June 07, 2003, 04:59:02 PM
(http://www.amiga-klub.si/images/aot2003/report/aos401.jpg)


Now you can see it !!
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: bloodline on June 07, 2003, 05:02:21 PM
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Now you can see it !!


That's better!!!


Closer please  :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: legion on June 07, 2003, 05:04:57 PM
Bling Bling!   :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: bloodline on June 07, 2003, 05:07:25 PM
From these "early" photos it looks like the A1 isn't really doing much...
But at least the A4000 is running what appears to be AmigaOS  :-o :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: uncharted on June 07, 2003, 05:11:29 PM
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Closer please


I just used a magnifiying glass to see it in more deatail.  Seems that this new theme uses fuzzy red green and blue sqaures.

What can this mean? a new revolutionary type of GFX display?
:lol:
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: legion on June 07, 2003, 05:11:36 PM
Uh... yes.  Clearly, this must be a clever hoax perpetrated onto us by AInc.  

There is no OS4.

This isn't the OS you're looking for.

You can go about your business.

Move along...  move along...   :-P

Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: MrZammler on June 07, 2003, 05:16:07 PM
Oh, please get those pics in their original (big) format!!
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: bloodline on June 07, 2003, 05:18:03 PM
Does anyone know how many A4000's were used to develop AOS4? If it's only one, then it's a bit risky taking the little chap out on the road...

But hey!?!? Clickboom are selling a PPC A4000, ideal for Hyperion... unless they plan to start using an A1 any time soon...
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Gerbinist on June 07, 2003, 05:26:04 PM
MrZammler, if you are using IBrowse, go over the picture, press right button and select "View image separately". That way you'll see them big.
;-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: uncharted on June 07, 2003, 05:26:41 PM
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But hey!?!? Clickboom are selling a PPC A4000, ideal for Hyperion... unless they plan to start using an A1 any time soon...


AFAIK a lot of the dev work was done on Linux via cross compilers.  I would imagine Hyperion are making good use of thier A1s by now.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: hnl_dk on June 07, 2003, 05:41:48 PM
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Closer please :-)

(http://www.amiga-klub.si/images/aot2003/report/aos402.jpg)
 ;-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 05:43:56 PM
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From these "early" photos it looks like the A1 isn't really doing much...


Yeah, this was the only disappointment...
2 Aminaones running debian ... ufff.... :-P
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: B00tDisk on June 07, 2003, 05:44:18 PM
Fantastic!  Now when it's released in a year or so for the A1, I'll buy it!
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 05:55:24 PM
Well, I asked someone 'bout the release date....
And he said September. (I hope he meant 2003  :-D  .)
Nah - just joking, it looked pretty kewl. Sorry I didn't take any pictures but i'm sure you'll gonna get them from
D.A.D. (http://www.amiga-klub.si/aot2003report.php?lang=en) soon.
So any questions?  :-P
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: anarchic_teapot on June 07, 2003, 06:12:46 PM
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Yeah, this was the only disappointment...
2 Aminaones running debian ... ufff....


Yeah, terrible. :-D Having just struggled to install Debian on a PII, I can say in all honesty that the AOne is a LOT easier to install Linux on.

I'm off to watch the French rugby cup final. I don't think I could stand the suspense of sitting here waiting for the pix and reports to come online.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DavidF215 on June 07, 2003, 06:15:47 PM
So, if AmigaOS4 isn't ready for the A1, then are there enough new A4000 systems for purchase for those that want OS4 but want it sooner rather than later? My A1200 needs an upgrade to an A4000PPC for development.  :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: downix on June 07, 2003, 06:22:22 PM
@DavidF215

Last A4000 built was in the mid 90's, so no.

Last Cyberstorm PPC card was built in the late 90's, so no there as well.

Pity AInc didn't accept my offer to produce a few new A4000's.  Theirs, and the communities, loss.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: B00tDisk on June 07, 2003, 06:27:45 PM
I repeat: it is weird that three members of this board are all from Florida.  (Myself, Redrumloa, Downix).

I think that's pretty much all of the Amiga users left on the east coast, hmm?  :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Kees on June 07, 2003, 06:35:20 PM
add to that that red and downix are peggy users ...

sad ..  :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Warface on June 07, 2003, 06:36:19 PM
Yes, sgrabbed pictures please.

Is this the PPC or 68K version of OS4? If it's fully PPC then judging from the screenshot I expect an imminent release.

Details please... :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Warface on June 07, 2003, 06:46:24 PM
I can see an Elbox Mroocheck on one of the pictures.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: amigamad on June 07, 2003, 06:47:06 PM
looks good, amazing what a backdrop and a bit of configuring can make os 3.9 look like .


I was joking  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Argo on June 07, 2003, 06:49:46 PM
@Dave
Well, Red did come in to that lot of NOS A500s. So, maybe there is a few lots of NOS A4000s in the corner of a warehouse.   You just have to find them....
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Warface on June 07, 2003, 06:51:11 PM
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looks good, amazing what a backdrop and a bit of configuring can make os 3.9 look like .


The exact same were my own first thoughts. Yet, OS4 was originally intended to be just the PPC version of OS 3.9. So it's not surprising that it has the exact same look, just a little disillusioning.

I'd like to see a screen grab to see the differences. Screengrabs anyone?
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Argo on June 07, 2003, 06:51:30 PM
Eh ehm, Though I am on the fourth coast.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Salup on June 07, 2003, 06:56:31 PM
Wouldn´t it be better to wait for an actual screenshot before we begin to discuss the look of OS4?
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Herewegoagain on June 07, 2003, 07:21:44 PM
@BOOtDisk

Don't be so sure about the East coast.  There is still a group in Atlanta, then there is National Capital, and we have at least 15 in our group here in the Carolina's.  There are still a few East Coast Amiga users around. :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Glaucus on June 07, 2003, 07:22:36 PM
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Wouldn´t it be better to wait for an actual screenshot before we begin to discuss the look of OS4?
Of course, but that wouldn't be very characteristic of Amiga users!!!  ;-)

  - Mike
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: bloodline on June 07, 2003, 07:31:41 PM
Screen shot? ok heres what I can do:

(http://www.ahsodit.com/aos402.jpg)


Good old Photoshop :-D

Note, what appearsto be a rather unamiga like White (PC style?) mouse pointer...
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Waccoon on June 07, 2003, 07:39:33 PM
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Wouldn´t it be better to wait for an actual screenshot before we begin to discuss the look of OS4?

Seeing how there's no "official" screenshots yet, I presume what was shown at the show is still a WIP.

At least they're not using the gaudy colors like in last year's preliminary screenshots!

So, what was the "big surprise"?

BTW, I'm from Massachusetts, b00tdisk.   A genuine M***hole!  :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: B00tDisk on June 07, 2003, 07:45:27 PM
Wow.  Maybe twenty five of us!  Woo!

(Although I haven't been an Amiga (as in hardware and software) user in almost a decade now.)

Rather, call me an interested sideliner.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: magnetic on June 07, 2003, 08:02:59 PM
Kind of anticlimatic.. I want details from show. Is this screenshot showing OS4 running PPC native ONLY?
magnetic
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Dagon on June 07, 2003, 08:10:40 PM
HyperionMP wrote:
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The idea behind the design was to have something that both looks modern and instantly recognisable as Amiga.


Well the image that magnified Matt doesn't seem very different from my WB. It has only different colours in the mouse pointer and the screen bar. (I like the screen bar white, not gray:P)

So I suppose this wasn't the new default look. I guess we'll have to wait a little bit. (I don't say that it will be very different from the current wb, but in this pic it seems identical with 3.9.)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: downix on June 07, 2003, 08:11:44 PM
You forgot Damocles and Damien.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 08:13:41 PM
If I remember right then this was an amiga 4000 PPC from a slovenian guy running 4.0. Didn't see a lot of it. He was playing around with octamed... ;-)

(http://www.amiga-klub.si/images/aot2003/report/aos401.jpg)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: downix on June 07, 2003, 08:14:40 PM
Looking at the screen-grab....

Looks like AOS 3.9 to me, just customized a bit.

I thought we were to look at AOS4.0 here, and there's nothing to tell that it is in fact a PPC-native AmigaOS at this point.  That saddens me, honestly.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 08:16:02 PM
There were 2 PPC 4000 Amigas with amiga 4.0 on it.
I played with one of these...
(http://www.amiga-klub.si/images/aot2003/report/a4000ppc1.jpg)



It was pretty responsive...the mouse pointer was a little bit wobbly, maybe it was the mouse.
I ran through the menus, checked some programs (opus didn't work, Ibrowse...). There was nothing 68k based  to try the emulator. Well I didn't see it.
But it looked good, as a say it was responsive and fast, but the amigaone version should be superior to the PPc version. Well it's nice to see they are working on something... And as I said before the release date should be September (this year :-D ).
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Ivan on June 07, 2003, 08:31:55 PM
Well ok, someone needs to add CRSnap or some other WB snapper to those machines but it looks pretty cool from way back here too.

What i like most is seeing an Amiga company doing some advertizing for once. Thumbs up Pointdesign. :) Someone figured out that sales come when ppl hear theres something to buy.

Ivan
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 08:38:47 PM
Maybe some info on the Amiga 4000 I was playing with:
603 PPC @ 233 Mhz
with a Permedia  8mb
running OS 4.0  :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: xeron on June 07, 2003, 08:46:21 PM
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Looks like AOS 3.9 to me, just customized a bit.

I thought we were to look at AOS4.0 here, and there's nothing to tell that it is in fact a PPC-native AmigaOS at this point. That saddens me, honestly.


Well, for starters, the pictures are hardly clear. Secondly, I really don't know what you expected? You can't tell much about an OS from a static screenshot anyway!
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 08:48:58 PM
I just mailed the guy that runs Amiga-klub.si if he could upload some high-resolution pics on Amiga.org...
Hope he checks his mail today...  ;-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Kees on June 07, 2003, 09:20:51 PM
@ Downix

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I thought we were to look at AOS4.0 here, and there's nothing to tell that it is in fact a PPC-native AmigaOS at this point. That saddens me, honestly.


Honestly ?!  ... I can't imagine anything that they could have shown that would resolve in a positive reaction from your side!

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Looks like AOS 3.9 to me, just customized a bit.


What did you expect ? ... a windows look ?
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: AJS on June 07, 2003, 09:26:22 PM
Hopefully ,Hyperion are going to put some pictures up in the next day or so :-D
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Rogue on June 07, 2003, 09:28:22 PM
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Yes, sgrabbed pictures please.


I'll try to post a few pictures over the weekend, preferrably today, more likely tomorrow...

(and yes, I even used SGrab for that :-) )
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: zudobug on June 07, 2003, 09:35:39 PM
Nice one Rogue!

You deserve a  :pint:
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: DeXXo on June 07, 2003, 09:35:40 PM
@ rogue / hyperion team

You did a great job on OS 4.0.
 I just hope the release date in september will be met.  ;-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: B00tDisk on June 07, 2003, 09:47:43 PM
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Poster: DeXXo Date: 2003/6/7 14:38:47

Maybe some info on the Amiga 4000 I was playing with:
603 PPC @ 233 Mhz
with a Permedia 8mb
running OS 4.0


The whole shebang running on PPC, right?  No "Let's boot on 68k first then switch over." nonsense?
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: The_Editor on June 07, 2003, 09:52:42 PM
thats what the host wiv da most said.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Zorro on June 07, 2003, 09:56:58 PM
@ Rogue

Great !

 :-D  :-D  :-D

Now... can you speed this thing up ???

 ;-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: ID4 on June 07, 2003, 10:08:31 PM
For the muose thing, I was the Mrhoocheck adpator from Elbox. I have one here and do the same.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Rogue on June 07, 2003, 11:15:02 PM
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I'll try to post a few pictures over the weekend, preferrably today, more likely tomorrow...


Replying to myself is lame, I know but...

Click this link for OS 4 Screenshots (http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=560) :-)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Ponos2D on June 07, 2003, 11:48:50 PM
PonOS4 :-D

http://www.inet.hr/~dponos/camerapic/trip54.jpg

Ups sorry that was me on A1 with Linux. Try this:
http://www.inet.hr/~dponos/camerapic/trip31.jpg
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Rodney on June 08, 2003, 01:27:40 AM
*yawn* finaly *yawn*

So what was the big surprise?

-=[edit]=-

Opps, that sounds as if im bashing and stuff... Im not, im yawning cause i just woke up when i wrote that. :)

I am still waiting for the surprise though :} Does anyone know what it was? Wheres the screen shots of the AmigaOne playing its first PPC demo (or was that just OS4 playing the demo and i got mixed up?)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Quixote on June 08, 2003, 03:03:40 AM
;-) Looks good to me, sir!  There is only one problem that I can see; it's running on a PPC A4000 over there, instead of my PPC A4000 over here....
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: downix on June 08, 2003, 03:49:01 AM
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@ Downix

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I thought we were to look at AOS4.0 here, and there's nothing to tell that it is in fact a PPC-native AmigaOS at this point. That saddens me, honestly.

Honestly ?! ... I can't imagine anything that they could have shown that would resolve in a positive reaction from your side!

You might misinterpret what I ment.  I only ment that I'd expected something flashier from Hyperion, in the way of a fancy demo or game that would expose the power at the heart of the system.
Quote

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Looks like AOS 3.9 to me, just customized a bit.

What did you expect ? ... a windows look ?

No, just something different.
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: Rudei on June 08, 2003, 09:47:42 AM
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You might misinterpret what I ment. I only ment that I'd expected something flashier from Hyperion, in the way of a fancy demo or game that would expose the power at the heart of the system.


I know what you mean dude, its just have they got time?  I mean, they`re pretty much flat out on OS4 but it would be nice to have a nice flashy demo to show off the OS (you know one of those demos that auto-runs through the features - I`ve seen it done on OS3 before, where the mouse pointer moves itself - very scary)
Title: Re: First OS4 on Tour Pictures
Post by: ikir on June 08, 2003, 11:21:22 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh........... fantastic!