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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: System on June 04, 2003, 11:09:12 PM
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The Phoenix Developer Consortium is proud to welcome a new member: Nolan Bushnell. Nolan founded Atari and brought the first video games to the consumer market. Phoenix and Genesi are proud to work together with Nolan.
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Cough, cough :-o :-o :-o
Now that is a bombshell :-D Boy things just keep rolling and rolling.
Umm.. Is this that thing MOMENTUM Amigans always alluded to :-?
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Ah, so this the reason for all the evasive Atari comments. I hope Pegasos still isn't going to be renamed Atari, however.
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I hope Pegasos still isn't going to be renamed Atari, however.
I think Infogrames will use the Atari name... :-P
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I think Infogrames will use the Atari name...
Well, I hope so, but you probably missed all the really heavy hints Genesi and bbrv have been dropping lately about a change of name to Pegasos - with Atari being one of the possibilities.
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Oooooooooh the irony if that happens :-).
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WHOLLY FREAKIN CRAP
Forget Atari, they need to call it the 'Nolan'
OMG...I'm so sorry for all my remarks and everyone I offended, and I'm really just a normal guy........
AWWWW CRAP, I guess its too late for that.
Anway, Nolan was a childhood hero of mine...and I liked him before his most famous work, Pizza Time Theatre...I liked him before Atari even...before Pong...Computer Space War...
before its reasonably possible that I could have possibly have heard of him....hmmm, let me back track, I liked him since Pong, before that, never heard of the guy.
OH WOW, well good luck...Nolan Bushnell is a legend, just one hint, jump ship about the same time Nolan does...OK.....
That is so great....well this is truly a wild day, full of wonderful news.
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MarkTime, we are touched...and we will let Nolan know!
Be good (for a change!)...;-)
Born to be wild...etc., etc. No! Born to be WONDERFUL! Yes, that is the REAL you!
Welcome home MarkTime!!!
XOXOXOX :-o :-o :-o
You goofball! Get to work on that Mozilla browser!
:-D
Now!
Then we will award you a new "name"...
Donkey Pong!
:-P
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MarkTime,
You offended someone? I guess I missed that ; }
Sure, you have stated some strong opinions with a passion that blows radiator caps, and have a way with the screenplay. But I don't think I've seen you aim personal hate messages too much.
You must be an incredibly restrained person ; }
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Really Marktime, your sarcasm is so out of place and mistimed it just makes you sound like just another uninformed troll, grasping at any chance for a cheap shot - one which fell rather short, as things turned out.
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this is WONDERFUL news... definitly very good to hear...very good indeed..
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Shucks, the Nolans, weren't they great?
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Oooooooooh the irony if that happens :-)
Man, it would be like rewinding back to 1985 :-)
Actually, Bill Buck's in-your-face attitude kinda reminds me of Jack Tramiel. [color=CC0000](Not meant as an insult!)[/color]
You have to admit though, the similarity is there :-D
Amiga crushed Atari in the 20th century, is Atari now back for revenge?
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Hey, CodeSmith no one is trying to crush anyone...;-)
MarkTime, as most entrepreneurs, Nolan has had his ups and downs, but you cannot deny his past and the multi-billion dollar industry he spawned through Pong and Atari. He has always been on the contemporary intellectual/technical edge. He is now too...;-)
uwink is his new company. uwink develops, promotes, distributes and maintains video games at "point-of-fun" sites in many places -- airports, restaurants, shopping malls, etc. It is a complete package and they update their arcade machines running Linux via the internet. The Pegasos is perfect for uwink's needs. We might even see MorphOS start to run some of the machines later in the year.
uwink has developed over a 100 "short form" titles that are perfect for a STB. Wouldn't it be cool if the man who started Atari came back to christen a new Atari STB? ;-)
"Amiga" is still in this whole thing CodeSmith!
Please think about this...the Pegasos, MorphOS and the SuperBundle are a package. This *package* springs from the AMIGA Community. Nearly, everything we have done so far is based on this foundation. This does not change. This is the CORE TECHNOLOGY.
All the other products are derivatives (and may or may not include all the components)...an ATARI STB, an Amiga II, the eclipsis, the Psylent, etc. There could be different operating systems, or only certain application software, etc. It is actually more about spreading the *risk* rather that taking one, as some have suggested.
What we are trying to do is open up the market by creating multiple opportunities. When you have all the pieces (hardware, OS, applications) you can do that, carving off what is needed to do what needs to be done.
Not trying to get anyone upset, just trying to go things going again around here...;-)
Congratulations greenboy! Keep marching ahead...MarkTime no more! :-D
Avance et triomphe!
Raquel and Bill :-)
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Well, I hope so, but you probably missed all the really heavy hints Genesi and bbrv have been dropping lately about a change of name to Pegasos - with Atari being one of the possibilities.
It seems I missed it... :-o
But see the irony of it, after all those years it would be again a Amiga Vs Atari thing going on... :-P
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This is some of the best news I have heard in years. I welcome Nolan
and have some real respect for his involvment in the video game
industry. I got my start in video games on the classic Atari 2600
system and now I have a real passion to develop my own games due in no
small part to what Nolan Bushnell started back then. :)
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This is fantastic news. It really feels like things are beginning to happen in our tiny community at last. Memories of '89 are flooding back as I type!! We just need ST/Amiga format to ressurect itself now!!
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@KennyR
ACK! I'm being personally attacked...ACK! ACK!
Seriously KennyR...if you read sarcasm into my statement...don't. I have followed Nolan Bushnell for a long time, I was quite serious about that.
My family bought a PONG machine, before we bought an Atari VCS...whether that was the same Pong Nolan did, or the many clones, I don't know.
But I definately became aware of Nolan's career, and was a big fan.
Am I misinformed? Oh probably...you see, from my limited perspective, I can only see the great successes and spectacular failures, but I always respected Nolan as a big risk taker, who was one of the pioneers in Silicon Valley.
Nolan pointed out in an interview with a newspaper a while...that Fortune magazine only profiles someone when they are a spectacular success or on their way down in spectacular fashion...his goal was to be profiled in Fortune an odd number of times.
I love that humor!
Thanks everyone, for the kind words...NOW,
I will be out for a while...I'm working on some
code....(easier said than done, since online chat
is a big addiction with me...but I will try)
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It might be worth noting that Nolan B. worked on the Commodore Amiga CDTV so he is not new to the Amiga. :-D
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Hi CodeSmith : }
From my vantage point in the US, Atari was not crushed by Amiga; the ST for instance was incredibly succesful in music studios and from the start had a wide list of professional MIDI titles that made the choices on the Amiga seem rather insignificant. Only because Atari was losing ground elsewhere (and not really because of Commodore's efforts either), did it eventually lose ground in this niche.
During my many years as an Amiga dealer / consultant / professional user I was also for a few of those a Reseller of Atari, and managed development for a few of music-related projects - couple of which were slated to be brought over to the Amiga. But the publisher of one went under (Intelligent Music), and the other title targeted Sequential Circuits, which later got bought by Yamaha and given to Korg, with the product line discontinued.
Those were some years of shakeups in the industry!
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@bbrv
"What we are trying to do is open up the market by creating multiple opportunities. When you have all the pieces (hardware, OS, applications) you can do that, carving off what is needed to do what needs to be done. "
This is excellent but I don't see how "Amiga" is included in any of this--besides the history. MorphOS is your current link back to the Amiga community and I don't see it being used in these new market opportunities. What plans do you have for pushing MorphOS forward and onward? I think MorphOS is what the Amiga community (at least parts of it) wants to move forward.
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That was not a personal attack, by the way. Go to Ann if you want to see what they are like.
It doesn't really matter if you are informed or uninformed - your post made you sound like the latter. See DaveP's post to see how sarcasm should be done - he's a master at it. ;-)
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NOLINs are better :-D
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Get this into your heads. Nolan Bushnell has had nothing to do with Atari since he sold his shares in the late 70's and left Atari. The Atari brandname has since been through various hands including Time Warner, Jack Tramiel, Hasbro and, most recently, Infogrames. And anyone who thinks Infogrames would waste a perfectly good brandname on a two bit outfit like Genesi are deluding themselves. But hey... let's face it... that won't stop this warped party of prize pillocks from attempting to immorally cash in on yet another companies brandname ;-)
P.S. I hope Nolan comes to his senses
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Get this into YOUR head, reticuli:
It's not just about branding - it's about an area in two business models where two business plans compliment each other well, it's about leveraging both sets of IP, it's about more working heads and hands and finance to do big jobs - and it's about your mom's failure to teach you about politeness ; }
Or maybe those last several sentences from your post are just ill formed and ill-informed because you didn't think of any of the reasons the two companies could benefit from association, that and the same misfiring synapses lead you to some mild form of Tourettes.
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@bbrv, greenboy:
OK, maybe "crush" was a bit of a strong word to use... I guess my memories from high school got the better of me :-D
Ah, the days of multiple platforms...
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So... you're saying having Nolan Bushnell on board allows you to hijack a brand name that has naff all to do with you? You really are a moron aren't you?
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CodeSmith,
: }
I remember having one set of frustrations with the ST and the company behind it, and another set of frustrations with the Amiga and the company behind it ; }
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@reticuli
You assume that one has something to do with the other. If the Atari name would have been used, it would have been licensed from it's current owner, Infogrammes, and thereby had nothing to do with Nolan.
So what's Nolan doing here? He and Bill have known each other for quite awhile, friends so I've been lead to believe since the VISCorp days. (Yes, Nolan worked for VISCorp as well) Nolan's current enterprise would benefit from the products Genesi are delivering. So announcing such a partnership only makes sence, and adds to the press and stature of Genesi, which assists them in selling more motherboards to people outside of the classic Amiga community. In short, it grows our community, and that is the best thing that I've seen in years.
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I'm not assuming anything. I'm answering those people who have already made erronous posts in this thread thinking the Nolan link means Genesi has rights to use the Atari name.
Let's face it. It ain't gonna happen. The current Atari want the name for a reason and that doesn't include promoting some second rate hardware. They want it purely to market games into an already well established market.
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So... you're saying having Nolan Bushnell on board allows you to hijack a brand name that has naff all to do with you?
So THAT's your reply to what I said? Wow, you must have missed every word and nuance except for the word "branding". So here it is again. Pretend the words are really far apart and move your lips while reading if it helps:
"It's not just about branding - it's about an area in two business models where two business plans compliment each other well, it's about leveraging both sets of IP, it's about more working heads and hands and finance to do big jobs."
You really are a moron aren't you?
Time to whip out the ol' schlong again, is it? Hey, DaveP, where's that IQ thread again? Anyway, I needn't assure you that my IQ is more than long enough to get the job done...
(cigarette break while we all stare at the ceiling)
...Then, a couple posts down you say:I'm not assuming anything
Hate to disagree, but it looks like you are assuming that repeating yourself without reading and understanding other responses is adequate. But it is really sub-adequate. And actually, you've carried on a lot more about the name thing than anyone else. It would be a stupid person indeed who would continue to do so when the Phoenix guy who kinda knows all that stuff and takes care of that kind of thing certainly hasn't said the name is the central reason Nolan Bushnell is in Phoenix. If anybody ought to know it would be that guy.
The current Atari want the name for a reason and that doesn't include promoting some second rate hardware
Which then makes the Teron board WHAT? ; } After all, the upcoming Peg II has a pretty high spec.
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