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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: falemagn on May 27, 2003, 12:00:18 AM
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Another whole month has gone by, which means that it's definitely time for another status update...
Read more (http://www.aros.org/news/archive/2003.php#20030527) about it, and also check the screenshot (http://www.aros.org/pictures/screenshots/20030527/gradients.png) showing the Zune real time gradients in action!
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wow :) zune is looking prettier and prettier!!! :)
Just wondering, Zune is MUI based. MUI recently had an updated. AROS and the MOS teams have been known to exchange code, or help out in areas...
Would i be wrong in assuming that both teams or all three teams (MOS, AROS, MUI) helped out each other or something similar to get the gradients working on these platforms?
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Just wondering, Zune is MUI based.
Only if by "MUI based" you mean that it's a MUI reimplementation :)
MUI recently had an updated. AROS and the MOS teams have been known to exchange code, or help out in areas...
Would i be wrong in assuming that both teams or all three teams (MOS, AROS, MUI) helped out each other or something similar to get the gradients working on these platforms?
Yup, you'd be really wrong :) We don't get MOS' own proprietary code, we only get bug fixes to the code WE give them, and sometimes also some new code, but which was already open source.
--- EDITED ---
CISC, of the MOS fame, just made me notice that they've also contributed back their packet implementation (DOS library stuff). However, that implementation has not made it to the AROS source tree and probably never will, for reasons related to design decisions
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I've implemented gradients in Zune all by myself, 2 days ago.
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Well, goes to show how much i know :) Just a nice coincidence it seems.
BTW - can i download avaliable development tools like gcc for AROS... I had a look at the manuals on your site, but it doesnt really explain (yet) how to use GCC or get it for wither nativ-i386 or linux-i386
I would love to start writing on AROS as GCC 2.9+ on AmiOS on UAE P@ 400 is pretty slow... :(
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Neither of the 2 PC isos work on my system still :(
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BTW - can i download avaliable development tools like gcc for AROS... I had a look at the manuals on your site, but it doesnt really explain (yet) how to use GCC or get it for wither nativ-i386 or linux-i386
There's currently no native gcc availabe for AROS. To code for AROS you need to use the crosscompiler which is built on the fly when compiling AROS itself. You can find it under AROS/bin/-/tools/ and it's named --aros-gcc. Replace with your cpu model (most likely i386) and with your operating system (most likely linux). Use that compiler as if it were a native one.
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There's currently no native gcc availabe for AROS. To code for AROS you need to use the crosscompiler which is built on the fly when compiling AROS itself. You can find it under AROS/bin/-/tools/ and it's named --aros-gcc. Replace with your cpu model (most likely i386) and with your operating system (most likely linux). Use that compiler as if it were a native one.
Just as a suggestion, it might be a good idea to point this out on the aros website (unless its there and i missed it). I was looking in the manual for "application dev on AROS". Right or wrong place, who knows... oops, maybe i should have checked the FAQ's?
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Poster: Amigadude Date: 2003/5/27 3:50:33
Neither of the 2 PC isos work on my system still :(
This isn't good :-(
Does the floppy image work?
Have you tried your CD-RW (CD-R) on any other machines?
Have you set your BIOS to boot from the CD drives?
Have you ever booted your machine from CD before (Ie. a linux or windoze install CD)?
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I Should correct myself AROS don't work on my system, the CD boots. Both of them do as in nightly build & snapshot.
> Does the floppy image work?
Last one I tried did
> Have you tried your CD-RW (CD-R) on any other machines?
Nope
> Have you set your BIOS to boot from the CD drives?
> Have you ever booted your machine from CD before (Ie. a linux or windoze install CD)?
It boots, just the nightly build brings up workbench & a shell then freezes & the snapshot freezes with the pointer in the top left of an all black screen.
-John
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Someone pinch me :-D I must be dreaming.. Just burned the latest iso, booted it.. and it worked *gasp* If you Aros guys pull this off, why not Amiga themselfes, sheesh :-P
The power of the x86 cpu and the smalleness of the Amiga OS.. should be a wet dream for everyone :lol:
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Someone pinch me I must be dreaming.. Just burned the latest iso, booted it.. and it worked *gasp* If you Aros guys pull this off, why not Amiga themselfes, sheesh
Nice isn't it :-D
The AROS devs are a very very talented lot of people, and they work for the only reward of seeing people using an AmigaOS clone on hardware of their choosing (be that x86, PPC, 68k, ARM... etc...)
This is why I have supported the project for the last 4 years, and I hope other will enjoy it too!
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It boots, just the nightly build brings up workbench & a shell then freezes & the snapshot freezes with the pointer in the top left of an all black screen.
This is most perplexing... ok, it looks like a list of your system specifications might be helpfull.
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Hi,
The latest Aros ISO boot cd works fine on Vmware on my Compaq laptop but running it native does not. Mousepointer is stuck in the left upper corner and it will not move. Anyway, I will give the flops a try too and I will use Linux to run it.
Coder
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AROS is probably the best long-term solution Amiga(genre) has... I assume it runs on X86-64(or will eventuallyu?) if so it'll be here for 10 years! or more...
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> This is most perplexing... ok, it looks like a list of your system specifications might be helpfull.
Gigabyte GA-7VAXP
- KT400 chipset
- RAID
- 4x Fireware (IIRC)
- 6x USB 2.0
- onboard lan (Realtek RTL8139(A)) (to LAN)
AMD Athlon XP2000 266FSB
512 MB Samsung CL3 PC2700 (DDR333)
Netgear FA311 (to cable modem)
GeForce2 GTS - 32MB DDR
60GB harddrive
48 16 48 Samsung CDRW
Crappy old 12x DVD
USB keyboard
Normal PS2 scroll mouse
-John
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I assume it runs on X86-64(or will eventuallyu?) if so it'll be here for 10 years! or more...#
Of course, by it's very nature AROS will run run on the x86-64, and we have been disscussing how AROS can be upgraded to use all those lovely 64bit features :-)
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USB keyboard & raid
<---- Hello!!!
These are the only things I can't account for!
I'd be interested to know if one of these devices is causing the trouble!!!
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Poster: bloodline Date: 2003/5/27 18:07:14
Nice isn't it
The AROS devs are a very very talented lot of people, and they work for the only reward of seeing people using an AmigaOS clone on hardware of their choosing (be that x86, PPC, 68k, ARM... etc...)
This is why I have supported the project for the last 4 years, and I hope other will enjoy it too!
Too bad that I'm not a programmer, I'd be more then happy then code for this project :)
But alas, my field of expertise is elsewhere.
Last time I ever tried to program is like 20 years ago on my C64.. Assembly. Trying to make functional F keys *g* (it worked btw) Oh and I did some stuff in Amos. I got a real Terminal, and I programmed something so I could remote control my Amiga with the Terminal over the serial port, worked quite nice, multitasking and whatnot :-D
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Hi,
The latest build of the Aros ISO bootcd works fine on my Compaq Presario 2100 laptop under Vmware. :-) At least I did not encounter any probs so far. I think I will setup Linux x86 and use Aros on that.
Coder
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Having tried all the options on the latest nightly build (well yesterdays)
I now get exactly the same as I do on the other machine (which it works on fine) except the mouse & keyboard don't do anything.
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Turned off raid & changed to a std PS2 kbd
still no go...
hmmm... I tried 800x600x32bit
better try the others just in case
-John
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still no go...
I really don't get it?!?!?! My mate has a KT400 chipset and that works fine... there's nothing else there that could cause all these problems... As far as I can tell... :-?
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@Amigadude
>48 16 48 Samsung CDRW
>Crappy old 12x DVD
Did you try with only one of those? Maybe 2 might be the prob. Don't know for sure but I remember something from the past that had to do with this.
Coder
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Did you try with only one of those? Maybe 2 might be the prob. Don't know for sure but I remember something from the past that had to do with this.
I'd be surprised!!! I've tested on some of the crappiest drives made without problems.
Also, I recomend that you all try the Breakout game... It's great!!!
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Breakout game?? is it included in the ISO?? damnn I feel a obsession coming up (again :crazy:)
I ment to ask earlier but I forgot. How do I install Aros Native x86 on my harddrive?
I know my way in Linux so tinkering with bootloaders, kernels and stuff shouldn't be an issue for me, I guess I just need a few pointers :-)
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Breakout game?? is it included in the ISO?? damnn I feel a obsession coming up (again )
it's on my ISO (from my site)... and I think it needs a 32bit screen.. it's in the CD0:contrib/games/ dir
I've been playing it all day... I love it!!!! It looks so good, the game play is great and it's silky smooth!!!
I ment to ask earlier but I forgot. How do I install Aros Native x86 on my harddrive?
Standard disclaimer here: I do not recomend HD installs at this time. Once we have varified that it is safe we will include an HD installer program on the CD-ISO (and a floppy version too for those without CD Burners).
***EDIT*** If you know enough about Bootloaders to install AROS, you won't need my help to do it :-D
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Okay, have the game on my ISO :D
But why this many discaimers on the x86 HD install?
I just want to swap my Windows XP/ Linux / Aros?? harddrive. Why keeping HD instalments hidden? I KNOW blah, kill, erase harddrive, blah blah *g*
Given the people who try Aros... Seriously, why not put out an x86 native, put on harddrive manual?
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Given the people who try Aros... Seriously, why not put out an x86 native, put on harddrive manual?
Because I don't want to be responsible for the Data stored on your Hard drive. :-)
If you are really that keen, join the AROS-User Mailing list and they should be able to help you... you will need quite a bit of help. Hmmm, I think that in the latest build the grub install program is non functional... so you'll need to do quite a bit of messing around with linux to get it to install... :-D
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I just might do that then :-D
FYI, I'm prolly one of few who actually got Linux Slackware 1996 edition to run with X Windows *g* on my not so standard PC then LOL.
I just want to mess with Aros on the hd, and I have a removeable HD rack in my computer just for these things :)
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I just want to mess with Aros on the hd, and I have a removeable HD rack in my computer just for these things :)
Well, that ok then... Join up and see just what you can get up to!!! :-D