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Title: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: redrumloa on May 14, 2003, 02:35:05 PM
This one is from the [color=CC0000]too stupid to not be news[/color] files.

Source: ANN (http://www.ann.lu)
Original link (http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1052880627&category=news&start=1&8)



The demo scene archive, ftp.amigascne.org was erroneously accused of offering illegal copies of mp3's by the RIAA.
RIAA performed a scan of ftp.amigascne.org, then proceeded to send a threat letter claiming that they had "found 0 sound files" and that these files should be removed before the DMCA is invoked for legal action.

Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: redrumloa on May 14, 2003, 02:32:59 PM
I'd take legal action against the RIAA for harassment.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: Vincent on May 14, 2003, 02:36:30 PM
That's bad.

Here's an update:

RIAA apologizes for erroneous letters (http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-1001319.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed)

Although it's still a bit late for that.  I'd go with red and still sue the buggers.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: SilvrDrgn on May 14, 2003, 02:48:37 PM
I always new the RIAA were a bunch of boneheads.  Sue them anyway!!!   :-)
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: ShadesOfGrey on May 14, 2003, 03:16:50 PM
If only it could be done.  From what's in the CNet article, it appears that the RIAA can only be sued if they knowingly misrepresent themselves...  Which they can likely always avoid by blaming some temp worker or their web crawling software...

Not that I'm saying they did this time. ;-)
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: Paul_Gadd on May 14, 2003, 04:03:22 PM
All the anti piracy organisations are a bunch of amateurs who just act like big guys when we all know full well they will never stop piracy and do they even stop about 0.1% of piracy? i doubt it.

Web crawling software  :lol:
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: amigamad on May 14, 2003, 04:13:01 PM
RIAA are a all a bunch of losers i hope someone hacks there site again.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: Vincent on May 14, 2003, 04:18:28 PM
Ok, if they can't be sued for this, they should seek compensation for harming the names of the sites affected.  There's no way around that one.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on May 14, 2003, 04:45:58 PM
@Vincent

They probably have all the major recordcompanies behind them.. dead end trying to sue them.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: bhoggett on May 14, 2003, 05:03:32 PM
No, it's not a dead end trying to sue them, even if they do have the record industry behind them. This is a point of law, and they made blatantly false allegations which were both damaging and stressful to those accused. Materially, some were undoubtably forced to divert resources and time to investigate the accusations and then prove their innocence.

The RIAA apology is unacceptable. It is clearly a made up excuse to cover up bugs in their own software, which they do not want investigated. I'd be willing to bet that there is no temp, and that there were indeed far more than the number of incidents the RIAA admitted to. Their spokesman was telling porkies. I doubt very much a court of law would view this watery excuse for an apology as suitable redress for the damage caused.

I'm waiting with baited breath for the day the RIAA and the laws they rely on are put to the test in countries where US Federal Law means jack.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: MarkTime on May 14, 2003, 05:15:32 PM
I actually spend time working against the model legislation proposed by the MPAA and supported by the RIAA that they are floating around to the various state governments.

This legislation would give service providers the ability to make felon's of people who violate their service agreements.

Why does the RIAA want this?  They aren't even a service provider....well obviously, it's for the threat letters...they want to make people felon's for violating service agreements.

I am against it for many reasons...though I am actually also, against piracy or the stealing of MP3's...

but the RIAA is a bad group...if you all want more information go to eff.org...if you live in TN e-mail me, and I will tell you more.

thanks,
Robert
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: vortexau on May 14, 2003, 05:30:21 PM
RIAA Guy (http://www.attrition.org/gallery/computing/riaa.jpg)

Now, if the name of this graphic, on its hosting site, was re-named to "MP3 Guy" . . .

Maybe its time for a Run-a-muck RIAA Spyder cartoon!
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: elendil on May 14, 2003, 07:40:45 PM
It is unbelieveably lame, but not really surprising.

In Denmark we have a similar antipiracy group that seem to be on the edge of danish laws as well. There are plenty of 'wow - here? In denmark? No way!' stories about them. You would think they operated in old Iraq.

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: Quixote on May 14, 2003, 11:49:22 PM
@Vortexau:

Ironically enough, your link got me redirected to this page (http://www.attrition.org/visit_attrition-dont_hork_our_bandwidth.gif) instead.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: DethKnight on May 15, 2003, 01:53:58 AM
sue for slander, harassment, defamation, negligence,  whatever you could get

Maybe not winnable but if the episode is spread loudly enough, to news medias and whatnots....who knows


when they "swept" the server could it be called a DoS attack ???
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: mikeymike on May 15, 2003, 12:18:59 PM
DoS means "Denial of Service", think about it :-)
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: DethKnight on May 15, 2003, 09:51:28 PM
Quote
DoS means "Denial of Service", think about it


agreed, but just trying to stretch things about as far as the RIAA is trying to stretch their defunct/outdated/obsolete distribution model.
Title: Re: Amigascne.org threatened by the RIAA
Post by: DanDude on May 17, 2003, 06:01:39 AM
Idiots.      :crazy: