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Title: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: HMetal on April 29, 2003, 10:15:45 PM
The CEO of Amiga Inc. will be attending AmiWest.  Read the full Press Release here (http://www.amiga.com/corporate/042903-mcewen.shtml).

Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: redrumloa on April 29, 2003, 10:16:52 PM
Interesting, that's all I have to say:-)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: odin on April 29, 2003, 10:24:05 PM
We'll see how this soap will unfold :-).
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: xeron on April 29, 2003, 10:28:16 PM
Bravo, Amiga Inc. You've found a really rather neat way to assert the fact that Bill is still CEO without having to get yourselves involved in the pointless bickering happinging on some Amiga sites. :-D
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Vincent on April 29, 2003, 10:29:25 PM
I'll be keeping an eye out and an ear to the ground that day :-D

So, if I miss anything, I'll read it when I put my eye back in :-P
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: SlimJim on April 29, 2003, 10:43:16 PM
For some reason I started laughing at the whole situation.
 
.
SlimJim [mad - and sad - cackle disappearing into the distance]
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Quixote on April 29, 2003, 10:44:34 PM
;-) The best defense against rumor is truth.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: zacman on April 29, 2003, 10:56:31 PM
I thought he was chairman too? At the website it's
only CEO/President (of course only until announced
differently!).
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Radfoo on April 29, 2003, 10:56:32 PM
Interesting, so when and where is AmiWest being held?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Hammer on April 29, 2003, 11:06:44 PM
A pie just hit Mr Bill Buck….
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Ami603 on April 29, 2003, 11:09:08 PM
@Radfoo:
   Just three months away yet. It is going to be on 26th-27th july,Sacramento,CA.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: SlimJim on April 29, 2003, 11:11:22 PM
Well I hope there is no doubt as to why AInc really posted
this statement about a show three months into the future... ;-)
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Calen on April 29, 2003, 11:19:22 PM
Indeed  ;-)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Radfoo on April 29, 2003, 11:20:52 PM
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Just three months away yet. It is going to be on 26th-27th july,Sacramento,CA.

Cool, thanks for the info :-)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: bhoggett on April 29, 2003, 11:22:31 PM
"I want to stop the rumours but I don't want to comment on them directly or commit to anything."

Hehe.

I smell damage control.

Of course, if Bill is no longer CEO/President by the time AmiWest comes around, he can't be held to account over this announcement, right?  :-P

IMHO, we still have an unanswered question regarding the now infamous business card, and I get the niggly feeling that both Bill and Fleecy have only been giving half-truthful reactions so far. They're not lying, but they're careful not to address the issue directly and completely either.

Would you buy a second-hand car from Msrs Buck, McEwen or Moss? I most certainly would not.

(Incidentally I, like Wayne, believe the business card to be genuine and therefore am of the opinion that its existence requires an explanation.)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Warrent on April 29, 2003, 11:59:36 PM
WOW!  Amiga Inc has a new CEO.  That is two in one week.  First there was Garry Hare and now Bill McEwen :))  At this rate there maybe another 100 by the end of the year :)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: falemagn on April 30, 2003, 12:56:30 AM
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Bravo, Amiga Inc. You've found a really rather neat way to assert the fact that Bill is still CEO without having to get yourselves involved in the pointless bickering happinging on some Amiga sites.


They didn't even consider the real issue: is that card a fake or not?

The fact thay didn't address that should say it all.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: MarkTime on April 30, 2003, 12:59:59 AM
I like Bill a lot, I've known him for years, and I consider him a personal friend of mine....

sigh, someone just give me a tub of popcorn, I'll be over in the corner watching the rest of the play.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: takemehomegrandma on April 30, 2003, 01:09:29 AM
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The CEO of Amiga Inc. will be attending AmiWest.


Which one of them?  :-P

BTW, I'm sure that Bill McEwen will go to the AmiWest show. After all he was at the CeBIT show this spring, releasing the AmigaOne+OS4 combo, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: System on April 30, 2003, 05:21:22 AM
so quick to reply to this... yet so slow to reply to other things... interesting :P
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Argo on April 30, 2003, 06:03:00 AM
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IMHO, we still have an unanswered question regarding the now infamous business card, and I get the niggly feeling that both Bill and Fleecy have only been giving half-truthful reactions so far. They're not lying, but they're careful not to address the issue directly and completely either.


I think that could be said of all parties involved.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Ilwrath on April 30, 2003, 06:16:25 AM
@Tickly-
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Bravo, Amiga Inc. You've found a really rather neat way to assert the fact that Bill is still CEO without having to get yourselves involved in the pointless bickering happinging on some Amiga sites.


No!  Did you see how he signed his message?  The little fishies (  ><>  )  around his name?  Of course, this means that something fishy is going on, and it's a HINT of the CONSPRIACY among us RIGHT NOW!!!!1

 :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Warrent on April 30, 2003, 06:46:35 AM
"They didn't even consider the real issue: is that card a fake or not?"

Hey, let's say the card is real.  So what, who is the CEO now?  I do not know what happened.  Amiga Inc, just may have asked Garry to be the CEO.  Ya, that is possible.  Garry just may have been thinking about it.  Maybe, just maybe Garry changed his mind after talking to BBRV??  Just maybe, BBRV is only telling part of the story.  The timing is very interesting.  Just maybe Amiga Inc. has some thing to deal with, why would someone outside of Amiga Inc want to share that information?  The card is not the big deal, it is what people are doing and saying about it and why??

Oh, why do we suffer so much, for so little :))
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on April 30, 2003, 08:23:08 AM
Garry Hare did some *free* research and might have done some volunteer other stuff too and might have been using these cards to find new partners.

That's just a guess.


I also think Amiga Inc. found a great way to stay out of the bickering and really, really hope they don't say anything more about this.
Why should they respond about something whenever some silly rumour sticks it's head up.

Now I'll return the favour the Amiga supporters got the past couple of days; WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

O...wait... you're gonna done the same thing now as we do! Blind following.  :-)  :-)

Amigaaaaaaaaa go.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Damion on April 30, 2003, 08:28:29 AM
They continually affirm that "Bill McEwan is
the CEO" of Amiga Inc, but none of them seem
to directly say that Garry Harre "is NOT" the
CEO of Amiga Inc...a very typical 'smoke'
response from these people though.

Anyhow who really cares....
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: greenboy on April 30, 2003, 09:13:25 AM
#1: I am the CEO of Amiga Inc

#2: I am the CEO of Amiga Inc

#3: Oops wrong soundstage. I'm here to talk about love triangles with sex changed partners. Freaky.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: CD32Freak on April 30, 2003, 10:01:57 AM
:quickdraw: Bill vs Bill :roflmao:
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Wilse on April 30, 2003, 10:03:06 AM
I thought this was 'old news'.  :-D
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Kronos on April 30, 2003, 10:12:48 AM
You know what upsets/wonders me the most on this whole episode ?

That some people actually WANT McBill and fleecy to stay in charge .....
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: samface on April 30, 2003, 10:20:25 AM
You're missing the point. BBRV claimed that the shareholders of Amiga Inc. had sacked Bill McEwan, that he was gone. How could this possibly be if he has the intention to attend AmiWest as the CEO of Amiga Inc. in three months? Authentic business card or not; that was obviously false information. The *real* question is; was this intentional or not? What is your excuse, mr Buck?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on April 30, 2003, 10:28:27 AM
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You're missing the point. BBRV claimed that the shareholders of Amiga Inc. had sacked Bill McEwan, that he was gone. How could this possibly be if he has the intention to attend AmiWest as the CEO of Amiga Inc. in three months? Authentic business card or not; that was obviously false information. The *real* question is; was this intentional or not? What is your excuse, mr Buck?


Maybe he had a little too much to drink on sunday   :-P
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: takemehomegrandma on April 30, 2003, 11:08:41 AM
@ mips_proc

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so quick to reply to this... yet so slow to reply to other things... interesting :P


I see in threaded mode that this was directed towards me? What do you mean? Have I missed to reply to something somewhere?

 :-?  :-?  :-?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: bbrv on April 30, 2003, 11:43:55 AM
Actually, the issue took a life of its own and was blown out of proportion.  In any case, we kicked the dead body and it seems as though it is still breathing...;-)

Of course, the Amiga Community is still alive and vibrant as ever!!!   :-D

Anyway, read this (http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=3414&offset=33&rows=34)   :-)  and have a great May 1st everyone!  

Best regards,
Raquel and Bill   :-)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Wilse on April 30, 2003, 11:59:35 AM
@BBRV:

Nice! I've always wanted to give that a try.

@Everyone:

Wouldn't it be great if the new CEO of Amiga was *JON* Hare? Surely that would be more *sensible*. :lol:
Title: Re: Eh
Post by: amigacooke on April 30, 2003, 12:10:07 PM
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Actually, the issue took a life of its own and was blown out of proportion. In any case, we kicked the dead body and it seems as though it is still breathing...


Not only would I not buy a used car from this person, I wouldn't buy a computer system either.
Title: Re: amigacookedinthehead!
Post by: bbrv on April 30, 2003, 12:20:10 PM
OK!

:-D

R&B
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: pixie on April 30, 2003, 12:31:01 PM
@kronos

I don't know why you are so upset... you don't seems to want anything Amiga related...

Ho mine, these cheerleaders
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Derfs on April 30, 2003, 01:10:19 PM
@bbrv

why ruin the thread with that off topic url? why show us another post of 'old news' as you like to say. maybe you want to mislead ppl into not seeing the error of your ways in the past few days?

why dont you really tell us why you were talking to the supposed new CEO of AInc in the first place, and what do you say now Bill McE, fleecy and others from amiga have said you are wrong and Bill is still the CEO?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on April 30, 2003, 01:22:43 PM
Could we have the ugliest cheerleaders in the world?

Not like the babes I see on sports events anyway
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Alkemyst on April 30, 2003, 01:29:18 PM
@BBRV

You just cant help  your self can you. comming into amiga.inc news thread & posting a link that is totaly O/T to your products.

Your really desperate now.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Giovanni on April 30, 2003, 01:41:36 PM
@Alkemyst:

You want a free T-Shirt?
Just mail him  :-D
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Warrent on April 30, 2003, 02:00:51 PM
@Kronos 

"You know what upsets/wonders me the most on this whole episode ?

That some people actually WANT McBill and fleecy to stay in charge ....."

Huh?  Like you care about Amiga Inc?  What you would like Amiga Ince to surive?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Warrent on April 30, 2003, 02:03:12 PM
@ bbrv 

"Actually, the issue took a life of its own and was blown out of proportion. In any case, we kicked the dead body and it seems as though it is still breathing..."

Oh, you like kicking other companies?  Humm, interesting, that is what you wanted, humm, how about the complete truth?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: greenboy on April 30, 2003, 02:25:06 PM
Do you want to hear the Jack Nicholson voice?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: pioneer on April 30, 2003, 02:56:52 PM
I'm wondering what to make of the vague Amiga Inc announcment that Bill McEwen will be at AmiWest. It seems they are saying OS4 is at least 3 months away. There is no mention of showing any hardware or software even then. This is about where we were last year. OS4 development could easily take more years. I think I'll start following something that's making more progress, like putting a man on Mars.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: System on April 30, 2003, 03:08:00 PM
@pioneer,

See my response in the other thread.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: IonDeluxe on April 30, 2003, 04:03:06 PM
Well, bill did not make any reply to the question at hand now that McEwen is confirmed CEO.

Just a link to someplace for some self advertising.

Seems to me like he wants to change the subject before he has to answer for his statements.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Hattig on April 30, 2003, 05:36:10 PM
Agreed ... all of Bill Bucks comments over the last few days have been proven to be lies, FUD and whatever else.

How can anyone buy anything from him?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Wilse on April 30, 2003, 05:54:22 PM
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Agreed ... all of Bill Bucks comments over the last few days have been proven to be lies, FUD and whatever else.

How can anyone buy anything from him?


Regardless of whatever crap has been spouted, I'm not buying the comments, I'm buying the machine.
(I know I once asked the same question but I was upset at the time.  :-D )
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Hooligan_DCS on April 30, 2003, 05:54:55 PM
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Agreed ... all of Bill Bucks comments over the last few days have been proven to be lies, FUD and whatever else.


Nothing is proven. We have an announcement that Billy-boy is still the CEO of Amiga Inc. Which is enough me, now I believe he still is. However if this will change in recent months I feel very assf*cked by him. If not a lie, at least misleading information. I will let future tell how it turns out to be.

And what comes to Buck, well, he has some explaining to do. No. I correct myself. He oughta start thinking what to post on forums and what not.

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How can anyone buy anything from him?


I used creditcard.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: redrumloa on April 30, 2003, 06:18:26 PM
@Hattig

Huh? How could anyone buy anything from him? Say what?!?!?
Very easy. Gensi has a product for sale that is actually shipping
and actually works! They are not selling non existant products,
coupons or teeshirts that never ship either. i guess some people
don't like products that actually ship?

I paid by money order and i am typing this message on the product I
bought from him.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on April 30, 2003, 06:59:27 PM
@Redrumloa

They don't have a Pegasos on sale right now! OK, they sold an OS with it.

Amiga Inc. has also something on sale right now! You and I just don't need or want it.

Eyetech allready sold the AmigaOne-SE and now also the AmigaOne-XE. OK, no OS but it's coming.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: redrumloa on April 30, 2003, 08:24:20 PM
@PulsatingQuasar

Actually I wasn't refering to the A1/OS4. The question was who would buy from Gensi and the answer is me:-) I wouldn't buy from Amiga Inc at this point, because they don't have any real product shipping that I'm interested in. That has nothing to do with Hyperion/Eyetech.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: System on April 30, 2003, 11:56:35 PM
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I see in threaded mode that this was directed towards me? What do you mean? Have I missed to reply to something somewhere?


sorry I meant to post directly to this... not to you ...
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Rodney on May 01, 2003, 04:11:07 AM
whats this about the business card and the CEO(s) that i obviously havnt heard about?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: redrumloa on May 01, 2003, 12:53:35 PM
@Rodney


(http://amiga.org/gallery/photos/970.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: System on May 01, 2003, 01:44:51 PM
Alright, if someone believes that card is real, they truly are an utter moron.  It speaks badly on what the "Amiga" community has become.  Look closely boys & girls, the text on the right is a different color than the "scan" of the Amiga logo's text.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Kronos on May 01, 2003, 02:43:38 PM
And that prooves what ?

That the GFX-artist doing this card didn't care enough
about such details.

Wether this was someone at AInc (*) or someone falsifying
such a card is a completly different question.

* Waynes comment that Bill's and fleecy's cards look just
the same, make the 1st option quite believable.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: greenboy on May 01, 2003, 02:58:23 PM
So Wayne is going to have to come over here and repeat himself for about the 90th time that the card is real? Sheesh!

HERE (http://amiga.org/forums/viewtopic.php?forum=1&topic_id=8231&post_id=111987&viewmode=thread&order=1#111987) is one post of many by Wayne talking about this.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: mr_homm on May 01, 2003, 03:33:29 PM
I'm willing to take Wayne's word that the card is real, but I'm still curious about why the phone number has a San Francisco area code, while the office is listed as being in Snoqualmie. No one so far has mentioned this but me, I think; I'm not trying to cast doubt on the card, just genuinely curious. :-?
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: redrumloa on May 01, 2003, 03:43:33 PM
@LordSteven

I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions if I were you. That scan was taken by Wayne himself. That's not to say there isn't another explaination(I'm not going to repeat what wayne has said dozens of times already), but it is unusual that these cards were given out by someone who actually works for Amiga Inc named Garry Hare and that the cards existance is not denied by Amiga Inc.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: greenboy on May 01, 2003, 03:49:35 PM
Because the offices are (were?) in Snoqualmie, and Garry Hare lives and works out of California? Not so uncommon to see on business cards when someone does in fact not live where a company is registered.
Title: Re: Amiga CEO To Attend AmiWest
Post by: Wilse on May 01, 2003, 05:37:27 PM
@red:

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but it is unusual that these cards were given out by someone who actually works for Amiga Inc named Garry Hare


While Amiga have admitted that Garry works for them, they haven't admitted that he gave out this card. We only have Bill's word for that.

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the cards existance is not denied by Amiga Inc.


True.  :-D