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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Tomas on October 04, 2003, 05:15:05 PM
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Say hello to the windows only x86!!
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/03/2127213&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=137&tid=187 (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/03/2127213&mode=thread&tid=109&tid=137&tid=187)
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/developer/0,39020387,39116902,00.htm (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/developer/0,39020387,39116902,00.htm)
So now they wont even allow us to run other OSes than their own.
This makes microsoft look even better dosent it?
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maybe it is a good thing for amigaone/pegasos though...
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I doubt it will lead to Windows only x86. I think the most it will lead to is Windows support for BIOS setting changing, which, if done in the usual Microsoft style, will lead to even more viruses packed with the latest features. Like zapping the BIOS.
The other possibility is that it's for Palladium, if that ever comes to fruition.
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Hmm.. there is one thing in common with Amiga Inc. and Microsoft.. all news about them tend to be bad :-)
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i normally ignore pc news but this is really good news! , now lets hope it just dies :D .. so we can guide all over to the amiga oriented market :D
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This is so you get a blue screen of death before the windows starts to boot up. :-D
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On the bright side, if Microsoft manage to get x86 PCs to be Windows only via Palladium or playing around with the bios, PPC suddenly becomes a lot more palatable.
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KennyR wrote:
On the bright side, if Microsoft manage to get x86 PCs to be Windows only via Palladium or playing around with the bios, PPC suddenly becomes a lot more palatable.
when was PPC ever NOT palatable???
Certainly running MorphOS it's GREAT!
actually it sounds like Microsoft is cutting off it's nose to spit it's face. but then, it's got a really UGLY face!
:lol:
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I don't mean for sensible people, cecilia, just all the clockspeed addicts. ;)
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ah, that explains it: it tend to ignore people who are not sensible! :-D
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amigamad wrote:
This is so you get a blue screen of death before the windows starts to boot up. :-D
So you will get every week a security patch update of 2MB for the bios
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if this is really going to happen I will no longer buy motherboards with a phoenix bios's or any other bios that latches to the microsoft operating systems in any way or for any purpose what so ever.
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you are just ignorant, you will succumb to william gates, like it or not. GET OVER IT. Stop whining about how your not gonna do this, or not gonna do that. Microsoft is here to stay, and so deeply imbedded in our daily lives, we will have no other choices. And if we do have other choices, they will be inferior to the microsoft options.
now sit down, good boy. :-o
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"The relationship, announced this week, is designed to make PCs simpler and more reliable, the companies said"
Heard this before..
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Ahh that's a scary story man!
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@ ####Fitswell
you are just ignorant, you will succumb to william gates, like it or not. GET OVER IT
Refering to whom please?
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Wow thats just some crap! I am so sick of M$ and forcing everyone into using tis POS they call windows. I got a MAC the other day and am slowly learning to use it. So far most everything I do on a PC I have found for it. I hope this just blows up in M$ face!
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Who cares?
I would never use a PhoenixBIOS anyway... :roll:
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The beginning of their downfall... They already lost $millions$ trying to sell their eunich pc, repackaged as a console, now they are trying to beat Nokia's solutions in the mobile market, a market that they don't have a clue about.... then this stupid BIOS thing.... are you aware of how many people are S-I-C-K of using windows? With the right promotion and movement the Amiga/Pegasos market can be benefited HUGELY! There is a s!@tload of people out there who would like a fully responsive OS that loads in 5-7 secs, doesn't crash for no apparent reason, and is easy to learn but with full respect to the user's intelligence.
Excuse my bad english
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whabang wrote:
Who cares?
I would never use a PhoenixBIOS anyway... :roll:
PhoenixBIOS's aren't that bad. Or at least, weren't that bad.... :roll:
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But isn't THAT just the first step towards MS® locking x86 computer-users in?
ANYONE using MS® x86 systems who hasn't read (and understood) Andrew Grygus' 2003 And Beyond (http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html) document is sorely information deficient!
'To support all this, the Microsoft EULA (End user license agreement) you have "signed" (by the act of using Windows XP or by downloading recent Service Packs and security fixes) specifically states that Microsoft has the right to inspect software on your PC and to change or disable that software as they wish, without notice to you, and without liability to Microsoft, to protect copyrights (including their own). This means Microsoft has complete administrative rights to your PC - home or business.'
Do they NOT aim to LOCK-IN x86 owners COMPLETELY to MS®?
(http://users.cybercity.dk/~cfs4636/PIC/Bill%20Gates%20-%20007.jpg)
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'To support all this, the Microsoft EULA (End user license agreement) you have "signed" (by the act of using Windows XP or by downloading recent Service Packs and security fixes) specifically states that Microsoft has the right to inspect software on your PC and to change or disable that software as they wish, without notice to you, and without liability to Microsoft, to protect copyrights (including their own). This means Microsoft has complete administrative rights to your PC - home or business.'
Check the most recent service packs, such as Win2k SP4. Those parts have been removed, and necessary parts re-worded to be much more reasonable.
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Believe it or not, but i am sure in 10 years, you will have no other choices than microsoft software... Open Source software will die due to software patents and the help of microsof, except for a few hardcore users, but will certainly die in the commerical areas :-(
And you will end up only being able to boot microsoft products on x86 hardware, except for if open source boards/chips will become produced.. sigh what a bright future.
Athens [Update 9 May 2003]: Microsoft has now specified the "next generation PC", code named "Athens" (R13) in precise detail. The specification ties PC design tightly to Microsoft's Windows initiatives and DRM (Digital Rights Management) plans, leaving no options for differentiation among PC vendors (R14). Athens is a "Microsoft Branded" PC in every detail except the label on the front.
Details of the specification raise questions as to whether any other operating system will be able run on this new machine, which will include Palladium chip based "security" features. As they now do with XBox (R15), Microsoft may be expected to pursue legal action against anyone who modifies Athens PCs to enable use of "unapproved" software.
http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#mspath (http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#mspath)
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sit down! (http://www.beckett.com/celebriducks/mr_t/shutup.wav)
"ALL YOUR BIOS ARE BELONG TO US!"
"Someone sent us up the Phoenix!"
"Resistence is futile -- prepare for MS® assimilation!!"
(http://netjunk.com/users/unpretentious/bill_gates.jpg)