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Title: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: LT56 on April 09, 2003, 02:18:46 PM
Funatics and e.p.i.c. interactive announce "Northland" for the Mac and MorphOS.

Funatics Software Gmbh and e.p.i.c. interactive entertainment gmbh announced today that Cultures 2 sequel "Northland" will be ported to the Apple Mac and MorphOS.

"We are very happy to be able to bring one of the most popular Godgame series to gamers on the Apple Mac and MorphOS" said Thomas Steiding, CEO of e.p.i.c. about the deal.

Thomas Friedman, CEO of Funatics added: "e.p.i.c. is the ideal partner for us to bring "Northland" to an even larger audience. Unfortunately users of systems like Macintosh or the new MorphOS are poorly supported when it comes to innovative new games. We intend to fill this gap with the release of "Northland" for these platforms.

The story of "Northland" begins where the plot of "Cultures 2 - The Gates of Asgard" ended. After perilous adventures our four heroes defeated the Midgard serpent and thus saved the world. But one day they were disturbed by a call for help from their friend Hatschi. Hatschi's homeland was plagued by mysterious monstrous serpent creatures, which spread chaos and destruction through the country. Without hesitation Byjami and Crya hurried to help him and stumbled right into a new adventure, in which the sly god Loki will play an important role...

Features Northland:

Stand-alone Adventure Strategy game.
*   Single player campaign with 8 missions including several sub missions.
*   The exciting plots tells the story of Viking God Loki who tried to take revenge on Godfather Odin for his banishment from Asgard to Earth. For that he abuses our four human heroes with his intrigues and traps.
*   8 additional free single player missions (non campaign).
*   3 difficulty levels to make the game fun for everybody from beginners to experts.
*   Special effects like weather effects, fog, ghost units etc.
*   Based on the enhanced technology of "Cultures 2 - The Gates of Asgard"; enhanced AI.

More information on "Northland" can be found at http://www.gmxmedia.net/northland/ or http://www.epic-interactive.com
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: bbrv on April 09, 2003, 02:45:21 PM
GREAT!

R&B  :-D
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: amigamad on April 09, 2003, 02:49:40 PM
Strategy game how 1980,s and dull
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: redrumloa on April 09, 2003, 02:57:07 PM
Inpressive for such a small platform!
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: dammy on April 09, 2003, 03:02:32 PM
Poster: amigamad Date: 2003/4/9 9:49:40

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Strategy game how 1980,s and dull


Why do I have the feeling that if this announcement came out for OS4 instead of MOS, you would be jumping up and down in excitement?  Funny that.

Dammy
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: KennyR on April 09, 2003, 03:09:58 PM
Strategy games rule. They're way better than dumb fps games.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Kronos on April 09, 2003, 03:38:52 PM
AAARRARRARARARRARRARARGHHHHHHHHHHH  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x  :-x

I have to agree with Kenny on something  :-(  :-(

 ;-)

Yeap FPS was lame with Doom, Quatsch1-3, is lame with Halflive
and allways will be lame ....

Strategy good (just not me when playing).

A racing game or even a Jump&Run would be nice though.

@e.p.i.c

You sick bastards !!
So many games, and when do you expect me to do something usefull ?

Shame on you  :pissed:

Disclaimer:
 :-D  :-P  :-D  :-P  :-D  :-P
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Paul_Gadd on April 09, 2003, 04:05:33 PM
I do not like those type of games but it is good news to see fresh games coming to MorphOS which is a good sign than old 90s ports.

Good work Epic.

@dammy

I agree with you, if it was coming out for OS4 i think the guy would have a hardon.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: KennyR on April 09, 2003, 04:15:19 PM
Or two. ;-)
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Mad-Matt on April 09, 2003, 04:16:23 PM
Its not so much thats it just for mos, but rarther that AmigaOS has been ignored even in its current state.

Apparantly the Amiga user base is too small to support yet the mos beta base is even smaller !
and get these games.

Thesegames should still run fine under an Aos/Wos setup, maybe not all that fast.. but then thats the drive to upgrade later on when the other osses are complete. Knowing that AOS support will be added later would help matters.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Palpatine on April 09, 2003, 05:05:08 PM
This looks really really good! Congratulations, can't wait to play it!

Cheers,
Ron
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Tomas on April 09, 2003, 05:07:09 PM
Why shouldnt they ignore amigaOS4?? A OS that might earliest come out in very end of 2003 and that is being VERY optimistic. Personally i have lost totally faith that we will ever see os4 running on a AmigaONE....

Im sure they would have ported it for aos4 if the OS was completed.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: greenboy on April 09, 2003, 05:17:09 PM
For me games are apps like ProStation Audio Titanium ;  } ...But mad props to Epic for going strong on the biz end, and the development. Good work!
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Kay on April 09, 2003, 05:17:11 PM
I have just one thing to say:
AMIGA VERSION PLEASE!

Thank you for your attention. :-)

Kay
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: mahen on April 09, 2003, 05:28:27 PM
Kay : don't worry; I'm sure Epic will port it to OS4 when/if released. They just can't right now (it seems to need a 500mhz+ PC).
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Mad-Matt on April 09, 2003, 05:53:10 PM
funnely enough, im running AmigaOS right now and id imagine 98% of all amiga users are also running AmigaOS.

Still would have been nice if they could have targeted amiga users instead of mos beta users.

Besides, i see no reason if an aos version existed now why it wouldnt run on aos4, maybe not as good as it could but should run.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Kronos on April 09, 2003, 06:01:57 PM
@Mad-Hatt

OS FOUR does not exist, 68k is to slow and WOS/PuP not
suitable for this game (or e.p.i.c.'s prting libs).

Amithlon is not seen as a market for them, so MorphOS is the
possibilty left.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Paul_Gadd on April 09, 2003, 06:17:23 PM
Yes, Amiga version should be out when OS4 is around instead of trying to make a game run half decent on old slow hardware to please a few users.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Tomas on April 09, 2003, 06:19:19 PM
classic amiga is just to obsolete i guess.... And mos is a growing platform... While aos is shrinking for every damn day  :-(  Hopefully this will change if hyperion and ainc gets their fingers out of their as*es and actually get something out of the door.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: SlimJim on April 09, 2003, 06:28:07 PM
I believe it was e.p.i.c that said they would indeed
consider doing AOS4 versions of their games as well -
only logical as it would be another segment to sell to. It's
quite reasonable they cannot do any porting without
having seen the OS yet (and even if you could technically
start working towards AOS4 already, given the guidelines,
it might feel a tad bit too much of a risk to port to an OS
that is already so late in coming into life - at least before
actually seeing it. Understandable.).
But summa sumarum, once AOS4 is out I'm sure we'll see
games like this appear for the Amiga platform too. This is a good sign.
 
Perhaps would be a nice touch for Hyperion to petition
these developers a little? They need all games/programs
they can get for AOS4.
 
But for now - good for the MOS-users! Hope you buy en
masse to support developers still aiming for such small
markets as those of AOS and MOS.
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Kay on April 09, 2003, 06:52:27 PM
@mahen:

Hope you're right. Oh, and it is "when released" ;-).

Kay
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: jacadcaps on April 09, 2003, 07:17:49 PM
Right when I received my copy of Knights&Merchants I tried it on my BlizzardPPC/BVision. There is absolutely NO point in targetting a product for a machine that can NOT run it on an acceptable speed. I'm sure epic would be happy to sell K&M for AmigaPPC machines, but they are just too slow.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Step on April 09, 2003, 07:18:48 PM
It seems better than that merchants game, but i just wish they would stop messing up the norse mythology, damn read a book or something, a little research dont hurt...
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: amigamad on April 09, 2003, 08:17:25 PM
@dammy


If this came out for os4 instead of morph os it would still be dull does not exactly need a very powerfull machine for these type of game fps games are much better something along the lines of medal of honar or batlefeild 1942 which are briliant to play online.when you have seen one  rts  youve seen them all.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Snuden on April 09, 2003, 08:37:25 PM
Hmm, looks quite nice. I hope they'll make an OS4 version too, when it's ready. But well AFAIR E.P.I.C said that they would make an OS4 port of Divine Divinity too, when OS4 is ready so...
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: KennyR on April 09, 2003, 09:49:00 PM
Medal of Honour is not to everyone's taste. I think it sucks. I also think strategy games have much more room for variety than Yet Another Ego Shooter (TM).
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: JoannaK on April 09, 2003, 10:09:30 PM
Agree.. I don't want another (or even first) Doom, Quake, half-life or other similar game. On PC I play games like Zangband, Gridrunner++ and Warblade (= remake of Deluxe Galaga), on PS2 I'll prefer Metal Gear Solid2, Ace Combat, Grand tourismo 3 and Baldur's gate.

Of those games bundled along Pegasos I have quickly tested only  Feeble files. It feels like a some older gfx adventures like sierra et all..
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: lempkee on April 09, 2003, 10:39:53 PM
they need to wake up now..., sure its cool with new games...but why soooooooooooooo many rpg, adventure and rTS games?? ..

we need drive em ups and such.... instead of theese endless games...

i vouch for a rollcage clone or something....


anyway epic allready stated like 5000 times that they target all theyr new stuff to mos only because OS4 is not out, when os4 is out they will appear and work on them aswell, have no fear.
so stop this bullocks that its mOS only..., its just that we dont have a os for our a1's yet...and we cant expect that the lame DCe/p5 cards will run any of the new swashbuckling games.

classic is finito ...atleast in this field....
time to upgrade if u want to play new games...and for that either wait to os4 is out or get a pegasos.

pps: all the released games till now all work on os3.9 + wos /pup ...there is no reason to start screaming that its one way or the another.... only titan have a special MOS ONLY deal....whilst aMIGA and 3 (+more) have special AMIGA os4 only contracts.

cheers and have fun....
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: System on April 10, 2003, 02:14:25 AM
looks like a good game... should be fun...

as for the 'why not for AOS" thats quite simple... classic AmigaOS runs only on Amigas wich are very slow and obselete... AmigaOS4 dosent exist yet... so its not a matter of bias.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: olegil on April 10, 2003, 08:31:28 AM
@amigamad:

We've already decided not to use the TLA "FPS" for first person shooters, since it already meant frames per second. Please comply with the following terms:

1PS first person shooter
3PS third person shooter
2PS second person shooter (1PS or 3PS, but you're the one getting shot at  :-P )

Thanks in advance :-)
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Dietmar on April 10, 2003, 10:29:09 AM
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classic AmigaOS runs only on Amigas wich are very slow and obselete


Repeating this again and again doesn't make it true: Classic AmigaOS probably outperforms Morphos (or AOS4, if it was available) on x86 hardware: the fastest household PC provides the combined speed of five Pegasos mainboards.  There may be other reasons not to support AOS3, and I'm not going to get into that, but it certainly isn't speed.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Zorro on April 10, 2003, 10:46:13 AM
Dietmar wrote:
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Classic AmigaOS probably outperforms Morphos (or AOS4, if it was available) on x86 hardware


But is emulation...

We want to use all the horsepower of the machines that we own... and in the best way possible.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Dietmar on April 10, 2003, 11:04:14 AM
> But is emulation...

Sure. On the other hand, what happens deep down under the hood is of no concern to me (and I understand that the emerging PPC platforms have their share of emulation, too, so maby we don't want to open that drawer). All I want to say is that it's stupid to dismiss AOS3 on grounds of speed: AOS3 has no problem with speed if running on suitable hardware. An AOS3 version would have the added benefit to run on AOS4, x86 and Morphos (assuming that the PPC can run m68k code fast enough; Morphos is said to reach 70% of the native PPC speed).
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: mahen on April 10, 2003, 11:45:26 AM
Dietmar: it makes sense. Ppl could buy it for Amithlon and then use it on their new PPC machine. However, when you own a PC, you have already access to tons of games for lower prices...

So for ppl who just have an amiga or pegasos, this game would only run properly on pegasos...

But you make a point. More ppl could buy it and play on PC to support Epic. Anyway, they'll consider a quick port when OS4 is released.

And MOS or OS4 is the way to go (ppl won't be using emulators with os3 forever : we need to build the future of the platorm).
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Dietmar on April 10, 2003, 01:08:01 PM
> And MOS or OS4 is the way to go (ppl won't be using emulators with os3 forever)

With no AOS4 in sight and no Pegasos in production, announcing the death of AmigaOS on x86 may be a bit premature. And there is AROS. In another thread here many advocated making Morphos open source. AROS already is open source and has that appeal to geeks. I don't think AROS has a chance if AOS4 sees the light of day and Pegasos boards  are produced again in the fall, but wouldn't totally ignore it. Its developers seem to be pretty resistant ;)
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Rudei on April 10, 2003, 02:57:29 PM
Well done to MorphOS and its good news for its users.  

But is their any chance people can stop slaggin off AmigaOS4 or is that just too much to ask?

Your right, its not here yet - but give it a rest with all your "doom and gloom predictions" of it not being ready this side of the next Millenium - its all getting very tiring and pretty pathetic
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: mahen on April 10, 2003, 03:14:04 PM
Rudei: I definitely agree. The bashing comes from both sides BTW... :(
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Rudei on April 10, 2003, 03:25:16 PM
@mahen

I know it does - but I`m also sure it comes from a lot of people who have no intention of buying either OS4 or MorphOS hardwares and operating systems...

Which kinda leads me on to the burning question of asking them - "what are you doing here?"

Did you take a wrong turn at google and end up here by mistake?  :-D
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: downix on April 10, 2003, 05:09:31 PM
@amigamad

Don't tell this to the creators of the Civilization or Age of Empires series.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: System on April 10, 2003, 08:02:41 PM
it would be pretty stupid if  game companys made games just to run on emulators... Amigas 'classic' ARE slow as sin...this is a good modern game... not speed ball..

sure emulators are fast but so what? their gonna port to an emulator?... why not just wait for OS4 and port to that if/when it comes out.... and port to MOS for now.. that makes more sense..
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Dietmar on April 10, 2003, 08:56:53 PM
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sure emulators are fast but so what? their gonna port to an emulator?


You don't have to "port" Amiga software to an emulator or write software "for" an emulator. All you have to do is release an AOS3/m68k version of your software. That will automatically run everywhere: on Amigas, on Pegasos, on AmigaOne, on UAE, on Amithlon. With exception of classic Amigas, these platforms are about equally fast, with the x86-based emulators leading the pack. And don't forget that, while the game's m68k core would run under an emulator, OS functions called by the game, at least to some degree, run native. For example, WinUAE utilizes DirectX and the Windows file system. That very much limits the performance impact of emulation.

Does it take a rocket scientist to release a AOS3/m68k version ? I don't know. If the game is written in C and mostly self-contained, without Morphos dependencies, the porting effort might be minimal (as in hours). What's the alternative ? Target a niche audience and say goodbye to sales ?!
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: AmiGR on April 11, 2003, 12:08:54 PM
Pegasos MOS "Beta" users (it's not beta anymore...)
are about 300 and will become ~520 when the rest
of the boards arrive. Be sure that Epic will support OS4 as soon as it gets available, if it suits their needs.
Mos, together with OS4 will have about 1200
users imho, so it's logical to support both of them
sell more.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: AmiGR on April 11, 2003, 12:16:07 PM
I'm not a big fan of RTS games, I prefer FPS too but:
1) This game is demanding enough to need a Peg or
AOne.
2) RTS games are certainly *NOT* the same soup.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: AmiGR on April 11, 2003, 12:19:55 PM
Don't be too sure about that. When you run Amithlon,
EVERYTHING needs to be emulated, on faster hardware.
Emulated applications use emulated OS functions and emulated extension libraries. On MOS and OS4
native or emulated applications use TOTALLY PPC native libs. In everyday use the speed is about the
same as Amithlon on a VERY fast PC.
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: AmiGR on April 11, 2003, 12:22:55 PM
Why make a version that would probably ONLY run on emulated hardware? What if the game uses
vmemory or other stuff only available on MOS or OS4? Do you know how much work it is to bring the
memory requirements down enough to not need it?
Especially on PC 1PS ports...
Title: Re: Northland coming to MorphOS
Post by: Dietmar on April 11, 2003, 01:34:48 PM
> Don't be too sure about that. When you run Amithlon, EVERYTHING needs to be emulated

Are you sure ? I was under the impression that Amithlon is based on a Linux kernel. It would make sense to use its function in the same way DirectX is used by the Picasso driver of WinUAE (whatever equivalent Linux has for DirectX, I don't know).