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Title: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: amigamad on March 31, 2003, 04:48:59 PM
Intel invents circuit to detect and stop overclocking link here the inquirer (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8518)

Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: xeron on March 31, 2003, 04:56:13 PM
Well, in some ways this is a good thing. It protects the consumer from companies selling overclocked systems and not telling their users. (Overclocked processors will have a shorter lifespan, so companies selling overclocked gear really should tell the consumer).

Also, it stops people blowing up their processor by accidentally putting the wrong settings in and invalidating their warrantee.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: System on March 31, 2003, 06:33:48 PM
I have never been a fan of overclocking.  As such, this is fine by me.  I have dealt with several friends who call me regularly wondering why their PC is unstable or worse yet, dead.  In each and every case, they are pushing the speed, power, and data at the chip faster than it can handle.  

Analogy Alert !  -- Put a big block V8 Chevy engine in a Chevy Chevette and you can begin to understand why the car begins to shake apart.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: dammy on March 31, 2003, 06:41:12 PM
Thanks Intel, your making AMD happy campers, yet again!

Dammy, more then happy with AMD.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: redrumloa on March 31, 2003, 06:43:56 PM
Ehhh I have been known to play with overclocking from time to time. Sometimes it isn't worth it, the gain is to small or there are major stability issues, other times you get a major gain with no issues.

Stupid people shouldn't OC, just like stupid people shouldn't drive automobiles.

-Edit-
Oh yeah, AMD fan here too. AMD all the way baby.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: KennyR on March 31, 2003, 06:59:40 PM
I hate overclocking. But then again, I think once you buy a CPU you should be able to whatever the hell you like with it - play badminton with it, use it to cauterise wounds (especially useful for x86), or just sellotape it to your forehead and randomly scream at passers by.

But then again, as Tickle said, some vendors do overclock chips as standard, so stopping that can't be a bad thing.

But in hindsight - it's x86 so who really cares? :-)
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: Piru on March 31, 2003, 08:27:11 PM
Invents huh? Like this (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,535,988.WKU.&OS=PN/6,535,988&RS=PN/6,535,988) was anything new. Check the filing date.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: olegil on March 31, 2003, 09:42:47 PM
@Piru:

"The patent, 6,535,988,  was granted to Intel on March 18th last, and was invented by David L. Poisner at the Folsom, California site."

Yep, it was granted the 18th of March. Yes, it was filed in 1999. Not the inquirer's fault, really. Blame the US patent office for that one...

Addendum:

If you had bothered to READ the actual article AND read that link you had posted, you would have seen that as well as I did. Both are clearly marked with grant date and patent number... Duh.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: Piru on March 31, 2003, 10:24:43 PM
@olegil

I was merely criticising the title of the *original* inquirer article, and even though english isn't my 1st language I still consider "inventing" to happen *before* the patent is filed.

That's all.

Take you pills, man.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: Dan on March 31, 2003, 11:24:11 PM
Overclocking is just to much trouble to gain a little more speed. The limit isn´t Mhz it´s MB. Ram size not CPU speed.
But if your a bored IT-techie with money to BURN(literaly)  i´m sure it´s a fun hobby.
But stopping vendors selling overclocked processors is a good thing.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: Hammer on April 01, 2003, 07:24:45 AM
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Overclocking is just to much trouble to gain a little more speed.

What level of overclocking?

Minor over-clocking should be fine. For example, I over clocked my old Athlon Thunderbird (AIXA) from 1.133Ghz to 1.333Ghz (via a pencil trick).

I’ll probably over-clock my AthlonXP/nForce2 box later in the year.

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The limit isn´t Mhz it´s MB. Ram size not CPU speed.

Depends on the software. Adding more memory has its limits. For example, a PC with 1Gb of RAM will not sufficiently run faster compared to 512Mb equipped PC when running Quake III.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: ikir on April 01, 2003, 12:43:02 PM
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Thanks Intel, your making AMD happy campers, yet again!


LOL :-D
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: carls on April 01, 2003, 01:42:15 PM
I've never been into overclocking, but I can understand people who are. It's a cheap way of squeezing that last bit of performance out of your system.

To me, this just seems like a way for Intel to make people buy a new CPU instead of overclocking their old ones.

AFAIK there has only been one case of CPU relabeling by a company in Sweden and this was in the Pentium days (they clocked 90MHz ones to 100MHz I think).

Well, I think AMD gives the best value for money so I'm not all too bothered.
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: carls on April 01, 2003, 01:46:48 PM
Here's a nice example of overclocking as a hobby: Celeron Drill (http://x42.com/snap/1998/10/celeron/)
Title: Re: Intel invents overclock deterrent method
Post by: amigamad on April 01, 2003, 02:51:59 PM
I myself have my 2nd pc verclocked from 1200mhz to 1345mhz and its run at that stable for 2 years my main pc athlon xp 2000 is locked so no overclocking can be done at the moment but this has an asus motherboard and it says it runs at 1666mhz at boot and is set at 133 bus which means its at 266mhz and even the ipanal i have says 1666 but when in windows the truth can be got by using a cpu program from amd it says the real speed is 1687  and 135 bus which means 270mhz other software gives same result so asus overclock this board slightly and dont tell you . :-)