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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: System on February 14, 2003, 01:41:15 PM
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Plexuscom, a designer and manufactures of broadband Internet access solutions and appliances has reached an agreement with Genesi Sarl to produce and deliver limited quantities of the PegasosPPC computer for release at CeBIT 2003. Genesi and Plexuscom will share a Booth at CeBIT, 12-19 March in Hannover, Germany.
"We are very pleased to work with Plexuscom on the Pegasos," said Gerald Carda, Chief Technology Officer of Genesi. "Through this partnership, we look forward to greater collaboration in development and marketing efforts. Plexuscom’s expertise in development and manufacturing technologies and Genesi's system design and architecture will be combined to promote an exciting alternative platform for the Micro-ATX marketplace.”
“The two companies share a common vision. That is, to create products that are designed to achieve exceptional performance while reducing per-unit costs and time-to-market,” commented John Tseng, President of Plexuscom. "Our first priority at Plexuscom continues to be our customers, and we are confident that by aligning with a partner like Genesi, we will rapidly expand our position globally and customers will benefit from the performance, flexibility and scalability of these new system capabilities."
The Pegasos MicroATX features
The Pegasos MicroPPC is a small, low power PowerPC motherboard with the following features:
Takes Single or Dual PowerPC RISC CPU (G3 or G4)
Supplied with 600MHz IBM G3
Mai Logic Articia with bplan April2 Northbridge
VIA Southbridge
AGP X2 slot
3 X PCI slots
ATA100 with two channels with up to four ATA devices
3 X Firewire
10/100 Mbit Ethernet
Audio I/O
SPDIF Out
4 X USB
Parallel
Serial
PS2 Keyboard
PS2 Mouse
Riser connector
OpenFirmware based BIOS Supplied with MorphOS, Debian Linux and Mac-on-Linux. Other operating systems in development.
Genesi and the Pegasos, Innovation for the Future
Genesi is a technology development and system integration engineering company located in Frankfurt, Germany, Paris, France and headquartered in Luxembourg. Genesi also operates through wholly owned subsidiaries in the United Sates and the United Kingdom, Genesi USA Inc. and Genesi UK Ltd. In addition to the Pegasos, Genesi has also developed the new Operating System, MorphOS, for PowerPC microprocessors. Designed for the Pegasos, MorphOS is a highly responsive, low overhead, desktop system, which runs hundreds of different applications.
Plexuscom, A Technology Power House
Plexuscom designs, manufactures, markets and delivers broadband Internet access solutions, Information appliance and USB peripherals.
Plexuscom's extraordinary commitment to customer needs is evidenced by its devotion to the production of customized products for diverse regional markets. Plexuscom is dedicated to the development of easy-to-use, reliable, low-maintenance and affordable high-speed solution for worldwide markets.
Plexuscom's strategic objective is to remain a market leader the development, implementation, supply and support of broadband Internet access, information appliance solutions, and USB peripherals.
Contact Information:
Plexuscom Contact:
John Tseng
john.tseng@plexuscom.com.tw
www.plexuscom.com
Genesi Contact:
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck
bbrv@genesi.lu
www.pegasosppc.com
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According to CeBit Website, Plexuscom stand number:
Plexuscom (Chou Chin)
Hall 15, Stand B23
Plexuscom Information (http://www.cebit.de/listen/detailframeset.html?tab_aktuell=uebersicht&mp_aktiv=A491401)
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Plexuscom's company profile:
Plexuscom (Chou Chin)
Plexuscom is the premier company bringing people's life with its comprehensive total solutions, the innovative technologies of integrating broadband and wireless in IP and multimedia application. Plexuscom's art of technology realizes the future demanding of personal mobility of information in high-speed multimedia world by its expertise in developing Set Top Box, Broadband, Wireless, IP telephony and personal device.
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Is this the secret Set Top Box / STB and personal device / PDA project mentioned on earlier statement from Genesi / Thendic?
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There's a war between AInc and genesi: the war of blah blah blah... the only thing they can truly deliver, after all...
:-x
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Is this the secret Set Top Box / STB and personal device / PDA project mentioned on earlier statement from Genesi / Thendic?
No.
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@Skan:
Although this "blah" is very imminent - CeBIT is next month!
Btw, about Plexuscom:
World Headquarters: Taipei, Taiwan
Other Locations: Shanghai, China, California, U.S.A.
Factory (Manufacturing): Taipei Hsin, Taiwan, Shanghai, China
Founded: December 1972
Chairman: Mr. Jimmy Kuo
President: Mr. John Tseng
Working Capital: 77 million USD
Sales Revenue: 151.4 million USD (2001)
Stock Market Affiliations: TAIEX (publicly traded)
Total Employees: 1000
Major Products: Wireless/xDSL broadband router/modem/access point, Interactive Application, Set-Top box, and USB peripherals.
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Btw: meanwhile there's also a picture at MorphOS-News.de.
On the case you can also see the new Genesi-logo. Unfortunately without colours it doesn't look that good, IMHO. At the coloured logo, the blocks are multi-colored, ranging from green, blue, orange to the one block which is the dot over the i of Genesi - and that one is red... :-)
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@SKAN:
"blah blah" for AInc, sure.
For Genesi : a concrete Pegasos/MorphOS on my desk at home :-)
Now, you can think what you want, but the reality is here.
;-)
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It appears CeBIT will bring some news after all.
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What am I supposed to think of a 'new computer', where all they know about it, is what the case looks like, and year old common knowledge specs of the ppc mainboard.
What is the memory, what is the expansion (in that tiny case), what is the removable media, what is the graphics card, what is the price?
If they wanted to create a buzz about a product, they should have leaked info to a rumor site....
this is an official announcement....but they clearly aren't ready to announce anything....I have NEVER seen a professional computer manufacturer OFFICIALLY announce, 'we are going to build something, but we won't tell you, nanny nanny boo boo'
This is comical.
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@MarkTime:
This is comical.
Absolutely not - as you see, they've been successful: everyone is talking about it.
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My comments were in regards to one company partially announcing product...that is comical. Whether they are a success, ultimately, is not the subject of my commentary.
What I will say, is what kind of consumer/journalists, don't care about things as basic as the COST, WHAT IT DOES, etc......
this is a nothing announcement. Whether the company is nothing or not, is another subject...I happen to like a lot of their direction, but this type of announcement shouldn't please anyone and deserves severe criticism.
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@Jedi:
A reality for you, yes. Does that same reality hold true for average joe user?
@Senex:
"Absolutely not - as you see, they've been successful: everyone is talking about it."
I don't see it. Their product is still not readily available for the public. They're diverting boards that COULD go to the public to this new partner. Do I need to wear some sort of specially tinted glasses to see this success properly?
@All:
The dot over the "i" in Genesi is red.. I wonder what that would resemble if you rotated that block a bit? ;-)
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@Madgun68:
I don't see it.
Well, obviously there's not that much new info - everyone knows the specs of the board, etc. There's only that cooperation (for whatever) with Plexuscom. Being more precisely might have been quite unspectacular - but that way bbrv give MUCH room for speculation about what exactly this cooperation is about, everyone is thinking and talking about their press-release, etc. - Do you see now what I mean?
The dot over the "i" in Genesi is red..
Well, it's not the final official logo, it seems - so rather take it as a kind of study. :-)
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Madgun68 : They're diverting boards that COULD go to the public to this new partner.
How so?
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" Genesi Announces New Pegasos Computer"
I disagree. It's a new production run of the pegasos motherboard (+revised patch chip).
Calling it a new pegasos computer feels like false marketing.
Or am I missing something?
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@greenboy:
"Plexuscom, a designer and manufactures of broadband Internet access solutions and appliances has reached an agreement with Genesi Sarl to produce and deliver limited quantities of the PegasosPPC computer for release at CeBIT 2003."
I just re-read it, and now it's less clear to me what's going on. Is Plexuscom MAKING the PegasosPPC computers for Genesi, or is Genesi supplying the computers for Plexuscom?
No matter which direction, these "computers" are using boards that people in the community are still waiting to buy, are they not?
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Well, I suppose it's still relatively new...and not many customers got the old board, mostly betatesters - so it's (at a squeeze) not totally unfair to call it a new product...
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" Genesi Announces New Pegasos Computer" I disagree. It's a new production run of the pegasos motherboard (+revised patch chip). Calling it a new pegasos computer feels like false marketing.
Oh well. In many cases, PR is just PR ... I can get over it.
I'm pretty much interested in this particular PR though. Because to me it represents a branded case with a small form factor that won't make the Pegaos board look like a deck of cards boxed in a steamer trunk. That and a product that has existed only in what I consider a bulky form factor will soon be available to me the way I want it. How's that for a concept? ; }
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@ksk
Yes, you're missing something, IMHO. IIRC Thendic before only sold
Pegasos-computers to the majority of betatesters-1 (i.e. except those
like me who bought board-only). So regarding the public, regarding
end-users Genesi will indeed offer a Pegasos-computer for the first
time. Therefore - if I'm right - no lies, no false marketing.
@greenboy
LOL - you did it again...! :-)
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Genesi might have delivered a product (to some people) but blah blah blah is a pretty good description of them anyway. Or maybe: blah blah FUD blah FUD...
That sounds more like it.
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@Sennex
Thendic announcement: " The Pegasos will be commercially released at the Amiga+Retro Show in Aachen on December 7-8. "
Report from Aachen y2002: "Thendic-France/Genesi launched officially there the final release of Pegasos (with ArticiaS + April) and the last version of MorphOS (v1.10) with Ambient. "
But anyway, as greenboy pointed out there is also the new slimline (STB) case for it.... so Artisia2 + new case ...
I reduce the "false marketing" just to "marketing" .. :-P
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ksk,
; }
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@ksk
Correct: the Pegasos (i.e. the mainboard) was launched in Aachen. Not
a computer. So I don't see were I've been wrong. :-)
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The reason why this is a big deal is because soon you'll be able to buy a whole product which is distinctly a Genesi product.
It's like comparing the Apple I versus the Apple II. Unless it has a case it's just a hobby machine :-D
This is the only way to gain awareness outside the current pathetic Amiga market. You have to sell the whole widget in a nice little case, like Apple/Sony/Nintendo do.
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Apparently Genesi Sarl is also a place in Lithuana. Lawsuits, anyone? :-D
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That's good news and all, but I believe we need an existing solution first.
Such as a driver for the alcatel speedtouch usb modem that is already installed in thousands of homes through the Bellsouth service.
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@SKAN
@MarkTime
@Madgun68
@KennyR
Please RE-READ the press release
:-D
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I've been thinking... ( uh oh.. :-D )
In my area of Canada, Shaw Cable systems are the main (if not only) supplier of digital cable television, cable internet, and other related services. Their new flagship services are HDTV and 'video on demand' .
The HDTV & video 'on demand' box is the Motorola DCT5100 HD, and costs $698.98 Canadian$
check here (http://www.shaw.ca/Tmplt.asp?PageID=629 )
Build on this idea...
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@Mountain_Myst
Check this out:
http://www.xsproject.org/speedtouch/ (http://www.xsproject.org/speedtouch/)
Any ideas here?
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@Strobe:
"This is the only way to gain awareness outside the current pathetic Amiga market. You have to sell the whole widget in a nice little case, like Apple/Sony/Nintendo do."
Keeping in mind your description of the Amiga market, how then does it look when the company can't keep up with the demands of that market?
Food for thought.. :-o
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@Darth_X
Yes, I'm very much aware of this.
That's why I cannot understand why there is not any talk about this issue from morphos or OS4.
OS4 will be fully capable of using a driver for this modem according to thier spec sheet.
There are already thousands of these modems out.
Quick money if you ask me.
I sure hope they don't turn a deaf ear to this.
It would make thier new OS much more attractive to a lot of people, and how hard can it be to build a simple bugfree driver for it?
I've already asked bbrv about this for morphos, but recieved no reply.
Now you're gonna have to buy a brand new technology which is gonna cost hundreds of dollars.
When all they have to do is build a simple driver that is already open source.
Go figure.
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In my opinion...
We don't need new answers to old questions.
There are so many things that are out there right NOW!!!
We don't need new technologies to get a base started.
That can come a little later.
We need drivers for technologies that are already out there.
I'm sick of paying way too much for buggy 3rd party hardware.
Give us great drivers for already created great hardware.
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@Mountain_Myst
Well, as I might be getting one of these modems soon with my DSL service, there will be a bit of an incentive for me to look into making a driver, won't there? 8)
Let's see which DSL providor I go with first. Bell South's kinda pricy.
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:-D
BTW, we will be offering the next batch of boards through the channels we have used in the past AND through the Phoenix Developer Consortium. The price for Phoenix members who are participating in the quasi-sourceforge relationship with Genesi is $299 for the Pegasos mainboard with CPU.
The new cases will come only with the Pegasos configured according to a certain specification.
Best regards,
R&B :-)
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@bbrv
This is the BEST news I've had all YEAR!!!!!
As a phoenix member, once I get my own Pegasos boards I can actually ramp up development of a few of my projects. This new lower cost will allow me to buy more than one Pegasos, so I'll have development system.. and have an extra Pegasos to take around and show other developers around here.
Oh, and one more thing...
:-D
"SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!"
:-D
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Downix said:
there will be a bit of an incentive for me to look into making a driver, won't there?
Well hurry up mate .... I have one of these modems too !! :-D
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Note: We will also be extending the same pricing to user groups through Phoenix. Here are two examples:
ASUM (http://asum.asso.fr/)
SPUG (http://www.dijidesign.com/spug)
:-D
And, we will sponsor Demo Sceners! Have a look at:
Equinoxe (http://equinoxe.m4nkind.com/index.php?lang=en)
Go Pegasos!
R&B :-)
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@bbrv
Ok ...
That's fine.
But quit trying to escape the driver issue here.
Where's the freakin' driver for alcatel speedtouch usb modem.
Till' I'm blue in the face!!!!
Three freakin' people in this thread alone that have this modem?
What's wrong with you people?
I'm really starting to believe that this issue is trying to be avoided.
Maybe there just won't be enough money to just build a simple driver for this modem.
Maybe it's best for the community to build a brand new modem with a brand new driver that we can spend 300 dollars on.
Bullcrap I say!!!
Build the freakin' driver and quit trying to escape the issue.
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Let's see which DSL providor I go with first. Bell South's kinda pricy
49.95 per month.
What other company will give you dsl for this price?
That's a great deal.
Not only that, bellsouth gives you special discounts on your telephone bill, and other special offers if you carry thier dsl.
Bellsouth Rulez.
I've had Bellsouth DSL for about 2 years now.
I was one of the very first customers.
Got the modem free and all. :-D
In two years, I've never even once been kicked off for any reason.
It's always the same speed, and never changes.
Fast.
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>Where's the freakin' driver for alcatel speedtouch
>usb modem.
Why not just write to the Poseidon author and ask
him if cdcacm.class supports it?
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Hey Mountain_Mist!
Take a pill...;-)
We are working on it!
Want to help?
:-D
R&B :-)
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I'm not really screaming.
Just trying to pull attention to it.
Thanks for the reply. ;-)
Btw...
I just watched a video showing morphos in realtime, and I must say...
My interest is going up.
And now, to hear you actually say that you're working on a speedtouch driver...
Hmmm....
I really think it would be in your best interest to make a video of morphos in action, and make it available to everyone here.
Show how everything works and show different abilities of the OS on the video.
All the talk doesn't compare to a few minutes of real time video.
And please make it at least 10 minutes long.
30 if you want to. :-)
Want to help?
Sorry, I don't code anymore.
The suicide rate among programmers is much too high.
The last program I built is on aminet.
Well...
The last released anyway.
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Ahhhhhhhh fast internet for a fixed rate. I have to use a normal modem connection. And since I am online a lot you can guess my bill is really HIGH. But I need to be online so I guess I have no choice. That's what you get for living in the middle of the forest.
Coder
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Man, I really feel bad for you.
I remember when I left the old modem behind and went DSL.
I could not even imagine going back to a modem.
The thought of it makes my stomach roll around.
That's why I will not purchase an Amiga until a good DSL solution is offered.
and hopefully it will be a simple speedtouch driver so I can use the hardware that I already have.
I'll never leave bellsouth, so there it is.
It's speedtouch with an Amiga OS, or it's speedtouch with windows OS.
There is no other choice for me.
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@Mountain_Myst
Actually, Earthlink beats that deal by offering static IP.
But that is true about the phone bill. Need to get the landlord's permission before I get any DSL installed anyways.
Likely I will be going Bell South, however.
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I spent about 2 years of my life with mindspring.
Heard about them from the Art Bell show one night.
I was pretty much satisfied with them...
Until they joined with some other company and became earthlink.
Everything went to crap after that.
I used to pay mindspring with money order, because that's how I pay everything.
Then earthlink stopped dealing with money orders.
Better for me though.
Now I get my DSL, phone bill, and long distance all in one statement, once a month.
Wouldn't accept any other solution personally.
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.....mindspring.... where have I heard that before?
....six letters......
....two words....
....csam.....
Tim Rue! :-o
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Heard about them from the Art Bell show one night.
Does Art Bell still have that radio show? It was always nice to hear from time travellers :lol: .
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Hah...
Didn't know about that.
Thanks for the info. :-o
Same thing happened to me when I asked mindspring about Amiga support.
Heh..
Brings back memories.
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Does Art Bell still have that radio show? It was always nice to hear from time travellers
Art Bell is pretty much finished now.
Sad really.
I enjoyed his radio program much more than any other.
After what happened with his son and all, it was pretty much down hill from there.
Now all the audio files that I used to enjoy so much on his site are blocked to the public.
You have to join some kind of club.
I haven't heard one of his shows in a long time.
Sad it is.
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@Mountain_Myst
I hear Art Bell on most nights here, has George Norrie filling in right now after what's happened, but he does come in every so often and runs a show.
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Yeah, I'm listening to George right now.
It seems that some things have been opened back up to the public.
I'll check it out.
Anyone interested in one of the best talk shows available, go to artbell.com
Nope...
It's still closed to public.
Crap!!!
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I went with SnappyDSL when DirectTVDSL went tits up. Earthlink wasn't in my area and SnappyDSL had static IP and was Linux friendly so I went with them. The only down portion, I had to buy my own DSL modem (I bought speedtouch from them for $99). Oh well, I'm still pretty happy with their service which is still way beyond Adelphia's cable modem service by leaps and bounds.
Dammy
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Hey all! Though I almost feel like an evil spammer to post this in two different threads, the same hooks are there in both cases, and it is a good deal! : } ... So. To enjoy Phoenix membership and nab and a $299 Pegasos mainboard with CPU and MorphOS and Debian Linux! - just email me with some details of ID, and dev interests. I'll process emails within a day or two of your email (at worst!) and you will be subscribed with your supplied email address to the Phoenix GENERAL and ANNOUNCEMENT mail lists, where you will be kept aware of purchase timeline details.
greenboy@nogreeneggspam-phinixi.com
The infrastructure to process requests and membership is not yet in place so we have to do it the old-fashioned labor intensive way. But Phoenix is next on the list to get a makeover for a web-integrated communication and groupware development system (though we are already testing Tiki (http://tikiwiki.sourceforge.net/ ) after trying quite a few wikis, etc). We are likely to be integrating GForge (http://gforge.org/) as well.
We plan to make Phoenix the campus and nexus for ALL THIRD-PARTY free and commercial development under on multiple OSes for Pegasos and future Genesi products. Within Phoenix's long-held, expanded definition of "developer", anyone who is able to contribute as webmaster, content provider, financier, entrepreneur, reseller, document builder, reporter/journalist, coder, leader, etc, is ELIGIBLE. Thus the mention and the extended hand to USER GROUPS and The Scene : }
Forward Motion! Action! Newness! Coolness! Zoom! -
- Oh yeah: I have DSL here now too, 256/128 goes for $42 including taxes with static IP, using Gnet BB0050 [ethernet] modems.
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