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Title: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Kees on February 04, 2003, 06:37:25 PM
GTI/Schatztruhe (http://www.schatztruhe.de/) and e.p.i.c. interactive (http://www.epic-interactive.com/english/news/news.html) sign an exclusive distribution agreement for the upcoming Real Time Strategy game Knights and Merchants for the Pegasos/MorphOS. Knights and Merchants will be the first commercial game release by e.p.i.c. interactive that is exclusively available for MorphOS and the Pegasos. Knights and Merchants is priced at € 49,95 and will be shipping from februray 12th, 2003.

More info can be found here ... (http://www.epic-interactive.com/english/news/news.html)

Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Kay on February 04, 2003, 08:20:12 PM
Make an Amiga version, and I'll buy it!

Kay
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: jumpship on February 04, 2003, 08:33:52 PM
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exclusive distribution agreement


tsk.. Can't you read?! :lol: (I am kidding!)

But that does mean that there won't be an Amiga version, at least not for a while
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: amigamad on February 04, 2003, 08:45:50 PM
And they say amiga market is small and then they write software for a non existent system that few people are interested in .

amiga and amigaone should be first you cant tell me there  going to sell more than a amigaone version . :-D  ;-)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Kronos on February 04, 2003, 09:15:38 PM
@amigamad

?????
Number of Pegasos + MOS : 200-400
Number of installed A1s (with OS4) : 0

Peg-Dev-Board with MOS-BETA available to epic: since late 01.

A1 with OS4-Beta: not available.

So how many A1 (OS4) copies of their SW could they sell ?
And more impotanly, how would they have developed it ?
(and no WOS on a classic doesn't count)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: jumpship on February 04, 2003, 09:36:43 PM
What I do find sad is that they don't seem to be making anything for the Amiga (WOS or potentially OS4). Not un-expected, but sad.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Kronos on February 04, 2003, 09:39:44 PM
@jumpship

WOS is not an option (too buggy/too much work/too slow) and
epic hasn't seen anything real about OS4, so they just can't
say whon and how they can support it,
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Step on February 04, 2003, 09:41:58 PM
They must be nuts, even if 400 pegasos owners actually shell out that (much) money for the game, which is not very likely, i dont see where the economy in this are, wow a possibility of 400 sold units, damn the gaming industry is lucrative these days...

And the game looks like crap to me, would not buy it for any platform, especially at that price.

 :-?
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: jumpship on February 04, 2003, 09:46:08 PM
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WOS is not an option (too buggy/too much work/too slow)


That hasn't stopped lots of other people producing games/programs for it. But I am no programmer! I bow to your knowledge  8-)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Kronos on February 04, 2003, 09:55:28 PM
K&M has a heavy AI which would make it dead-slow on a classic,
so they are in the same position as Hyperion with the games
they claim to have allmost ready but can't release.

Also they might think in the same pattern as Hyperion, that
people shelling out $$$ for a PPC-mobo are more likely to pay
$$ for a game.

Most Amiga-games have sold in low 3-digit numbers for the
last year, and thats why most of them are just ports.

I have seen the game in Aachen, and while it is not uptodate
compared to current Win-games (suprise ) it is still looking
good and seems to have a descent gameplay.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: SidMan on February 04, 2003, 10:02:49 PM
@Kronos :

Why is WarpOS buggy? (I have found it anything but - Coding & Using).
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: AmiGod on February 05, 2003, 12:08:19 AM
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Knights and Merchants


Based on the screenshots, it looks like a remake of Settlers and Foundation.  Mmmm, Settlers.  Time to waste an evening on a good game.  Darn. ;-)

AmiGod
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Herewegoagain on February 05, 2003, 03:03:47 AM
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?????
Number of Pegasos + MOS : 200-400
Number of installed A1s (with OS4) : 0

Peg-Dev-Board with MOS-BETA available to epic: since late 01.

A1 with OS4-Beta: not available.

So how many A1 (OS4) copies of their SW could they sell ?


Ummm..... Then why the big deal over it's "exclusivness"???  If everything else is non existent, what is it exclusive for??? Genesi people are so desparate to sound like they are dominating the world...  Wake me up when something interesting happens.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: bbrv on February 05, 2003, 03:38:15 AM
Hi Herewegoagain, we are dominating this "world."  :-)  Seriously, when another native PPC OS is on the market e.p.i.c. will undoubtedly support it.  In the meanwhile, we are quite happy that they have decided to channel their efforts and skills to Pegasos and MorphOS users.  It is really a "chicken and egg" situation and the sooner we can get over that hurdle the faster the "installed base" number can grow and visa-versa.  You can fill a bucket one drop at a time!

Congratulations e.p.i.c and GTI!

Go Pegasos and MorphOS!

Sincerely,

R&B :-D

P.S. Thanks Kronos for the support.  Please check your email forwarded from kronos@amiga.org.  You have just become a game tester...let us know what you think!  ;-)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: greenboy on February 05, 2003, 04:20:50 AM
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Herewegoagain : Genesi people are so desparate to sound like they are dominating the world...

Every Genesi person I've met has a pretty realistic appraisal of where they are in the larger world marketplace, and how much work it will take to progress to command even niche successes. Yet, they are proud of what has been done so far. Anything wrong with that?

If it was Amiga Inc or Hyperion for this particulaer PR piece would you be saying things like that? I hope not. They too deserve to enjoy local respect.  (Yeah, I know some people might not always play it that way, but that is THEIR problem.)

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Wake me up when something interesting happens.

Maybe you should set your alarm. ; } ...An agreement today with Genesi doesn't mean there can't be a PR tomorrow for AOS4, in many cases. It should be trivial to support both platforms for the time being,..
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Paul_Gadd on February 05, 2003, 04:53:32 AM
While i think it is great to see games ported to MorphOS but why really old games?

You need a KILLER game for 2003 instead of a old 90`s game.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: bbrv on February 05, 2003, 05:20:48 AM
Paul, you are *absolutely* right!  We think the way to go is online-mass-multiplayer-games and that is where we are headed! :-D

Thanks greenboy for the "approval" -- we appreciate it!

:-)

R&B
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: yssing on February 05, 2003, 07:23:27 AM
I don't really think that it is to expensive...
Just lookat the prizes Clickboom charge..
Need I mention NightLong PPC ???
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: DaveP on February 05, 2003, 08:39:44 AM
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P.S. Thanks Kronos for the support. Please check your email forwarded from kronos@amiga.org. You have just become a game tester...let us know what you think!


That looks like a payoff Kronos ;-) If you have to get the
package from a deserted carpark with lots of mexicans with
hand-cannons around, run!
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Dagon on February 05, 2003, 10:45:05 AM
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What I do find sad is that they don't seem to be making anything for the Amiga (WOS or potentially OS4)

Wrong, I just bought Software Tycoon (made by Epic) and it is both for Amigas with 68k and PPC (it has also a Pegasos+MorphOS version)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: jumpship on February 05, 2003, 12:36:32 PM
Can I just say that I have nothing against MOS or the PEG, in fact if I could afford both systems I would get both, hell I may even get a PEG to run MOS on and use my BlizzPPC for OS4 (after I get back from Oz!).

I happen to prefure the idea of OS4 over MOS, but having played with MOS at WoASE it is a nice system (even if it did crash when I tried to resize a window ;-)). The main reason is because I can understand how OS4 will work (as I understand how AOS works in general), but I am sooo confused by all this A-BOX and Q-BOX with MOS that I steer away from it. Plus I can't use it on my BlizzPPC :lol: (that is a hint there ;-) hehe)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: zacman on February 05, 2003, 12:45:20 PM
>Plus I can't use it on my BlizzPPC

Maybe you mixed OS4 and MOS here?

MorphOS runs without problems on BlizzPPC (since the very first public version).
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: DaveP on February 05, 2003, 12:50:20 PM
@zacman

Nicholas and BillB have been very clear on this that
MorphOS as shipped with the Pegasos is not currently
available for the Blizzard or the Cyberstorm because
of the support issues involved.

It might *run* but as no-one can get a shrink-wrapped version
of MOS for the BPPC/CPPC cards he is absolutely correct.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: zacman on February 05, 2003, 12:53:46 PM
>Nicholas and BillB have been very clear on this that
>MorphOS as shipped with the Pegasos is not
>currently available for the Blizzard or the
>Cyberstorm because of the support issues
>involved.

Sure but that doesn't mean that it won't be available
later. The only difference between the
BlizzPPC/CybPPC version and the Pegasos MorphOS
version is that the Pegasos version is a public beta
while the CybPPC/BlizzPPC beta is an internal beta.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: jumpship on February 05, 2003, 01:36:02 PM
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Sure but that doesn't mean that it won't be available


That is why I put the "hint hint" bit in :-D
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: mahen on February 05, 2003, 02:12:47 PM
Oh, how old is the original PC version of this game BTW ? I don't think it's that important to have "state of the art 3d engines" but at least amiga/MOS specific games, good in their style... (like Crossfire 2 released recently)...

I'll buy Knights&Merchants as soon as possible.
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Kronos on February 05, 2003, 02:23:52 PM
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We think the way to go is online-mass-multiplayer-games

I really don't like those online games (mostly dumb), but
mass-multiplay like TalesOfTamar rules.

@DaveP
I haven't tested it yet, but looking at the title it will
probaraly not excite me like something similar does another
Bill ......  ;-)
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: bbrv on February 05, 2003, 02:31:32 PM
Kronos, hehehe.

R&B :-D
Title: Re: GTI and e.p.i.c. cooperate on Pegasos distribution
Post by: Jupp3 on February 05, 2003, 06:18:27 PM
So, what should Amiga programmer do? Just wait for AmigaOS4 to be released (or at least some development material for it) doing NOTHING? C'mon...

I'm not 100% sure about this, but Weren't Epic working simultaneously on Macintosh & Amiga version of that particular game, at the same time developing SDL-like a system, that allows game to be compiled either for Macintosh or MorphOS with very minor modifications to source code?

So, if it was that easy, why shouldn't it have been done?

And should AOS4 ever become ready, it shouldn't be that hard to "adapt" that system for it aswell, and (maybe) be able to compile all games ported that far to AOS4 aswell...