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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: IOSPIRIT on January 29, 2003, 01:05:18 PM
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IOSPIRIT (http://www.iospirit.de/) is pleased to unveil that a distribution agreement with Stefan Burström and the IBrowse Team has been signed and we are now the worldwide distributor for IBrowse (support for IBrowse is still done by the IBrowse development team (http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/), though).
Furthermore, we are pleased to announce the immediate release of the eagerly awaited update to IBrowse 2.2.
IBrowse 2.3 brings web browsing on AmigaOS to a new level - below is a brief summary of the changes since version 2.2:
- Heavily enhanced JavaScript support, based on JavaScript 1.5 and revision 3 of the ECMAScript specification, allowing access to sites which was not possible before
- Secure connection support is now available via AmiSSL v2, which can be configured extensively in the IBrowse preferences. Importing and exporting of certificates is now also supported.
- Greatly improved general stability and memory leaks plugged
- Improved GUI, including enhanced browser tab functionality (such as drag´n´drop, keyboard support)
- Issues with the ARexx interface have been fixed and new commands added
- Hundreds of other minor and major bug fixes + improvements, and more workarounds added to improve compatibility with broken sites
All these improvements greatly improve the browsing experience, and allow IBrowse to offer compatibility with many more websites than before.
For further information, news and product support, please visit http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/ (http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/) and our IBrowse-subpages.
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If it works well in AOS4 then I'll definitely register it again.
/Björn
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Wooohooo oh happy days, I got GoldED through the post this morning an IB2.3 is ready for me to download, damn I feel happy :-D
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Hehe So you`ve got GoldED at long last. Did Cyka persuade you?
I`m a happy chappy too. i`ll be happier when I actually have IBrowse2.3. Where the heck is the download? I`ll cary on looking.
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Gotz yuz!
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Nah he didnt, the free version of 5 convinced me, then I saw GoldED6 being sold very cheaply so I went for it, 11.50 euro's including shipping straight from the man himself :-) cant go wrong.
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Nice to see this browser finally updated, especially considering most considered it dead years ago. I've got my Voyager keyfile collecting dust, I wonder if I should give this a shot...
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Well I took the plunge when 2.1 came out and haven`t regreted it since. Get shooting!
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What is the status on full CSS1 (and partial CSS2) support? IBrowse is just another toy browser without this mandatory (per W3C standards) seven year old technology.
Damien
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Hello,
I've tested IBrowse 2.3 under MorphOS on a Pegasos G3 600MHz. It runs well, Javascript support seems to be quite good and the rendering is quite good also.
Sadly it seems that there is no CSS 1 or 2 support on this version (AFAIK this is planned for IBrowse 3.0 only) and no DOM support too. :(
I've also noticed that the Amiga key + V open a new browser, but then how do I paste something from the clipboard? There is no "paste" entry in the edit menu apparently (As i've said later, it seems to be a problem with the french catalog (maybe also with other actual catalogs, I didn't test) :(
Regards
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Toy browser? I assume that you can write a better one then? That note probably encourages the developers a lot!
If you read the FAQ, you see it coming later.
:-x
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I dont know what youve been smoking dude, here on a real Amiga right amiga V pastes as it has always done, and right amiga N opens a new window as its always done....
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hello Mr Genesi type person, I do hope your not trying to mock amiga software, as I see it your going to need all the help you can get from amiga develpers if your morphos platform is going to survive.
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Hello,
Right I found the problem :) It's because of the French catalogs which seems to not be ok with this version. If I remove it everything is OK :)
@Ryu: FYI I'm a registered user of IBrowse, I've bought the 2.0 version. If I want to use the 2.3 it's my choice and my right.
Thank you to respect that.
Regards
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@Frodon
hey I respect your choice, dont get me wrong, I think you've got a bit of a communications breakdown
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Hello Ryu,
@Frodon
hey I respect your choice, dont get me wrong, I think you've got a bit of a communications breakdown
Ok I may just have misunderstood you. Sorry in that case :)
Regards
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Er... I'm gonna buy it anyway but I'd like to know when is the 3.0 version coming out...
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CSS has been an official W3C standard since 1996. In 1997 it was made a core part of the HTML 4.0 Transitional specification and a mandatory part of the HTML 4.0 Strict specification. In 2000 CSS was made a mandatory part of both the XHTML 1.0 Transitional spec and the XHTML 1.0 Strict spec (font tags were not allowed anymore). It is now 2003, three years after the launch of XHTML 1.0, six years after the launch of HTML 4.0, and seven years after the launch of CSS Level 1.
I left the Amiga community in 1997 and at the time the lack of CSS was becoming a problem, I'm just amazed that it still is.
Damien
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@Jose
Don`t we all.
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@Ryu
Simply having developer support won't help if the developers will not supply the necessary components.
Damien asked an honest question about a long-overdue component that both AOS 4 and MOS needs to be taken seriously. Even Cell Phones support CSS while no Amiga browser does. I'm glad to hear that IBrowse is working on the problem, and I hope V's team is as well.
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As a simple test I went to www.u2.com with the demo. I hate to say it but the results were less then thrilling. I really don't see why I would want to use IBrowse 2.3 when I could use IE 6 instead. This to me is the major obsticle for OS4 and any future for Amiga. I think AmigaInc would have had better results if they just made a real modern browser for OS3.9. Yes, I think a browser is that important these days.
- Mike
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Very cool :-)
Just browsing through the changelog (http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/changelog.php) it looks like they've made a lot of improvements and bugfixes. Can't wait to get home tonight so I can try out the demo.
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Just one minor gripe...it uses an external command (C:CopyReplace) for its cachebrowser. That's quite messy. I'd prefer it didn't.
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Not everyone wants to use a PC to browse. Not everyone can. It's important to have an Amiga browser, even if its not the most powerful in the world. What matters most is stability and efficiency. Compatibility matters too, but its an unreachable goal with M$ rewriting net standards every other week.
Anyway, my own tests with IB weren't so impressive either. Javascript still looks rather limited. I'm still forced to use Opera or Mozilla on my PC for websites IB still won't load correctly. (I would never use IE6. I grudge the HD space it takes up and I can't even uninstall the thing).
Oh well, at least now I have a copy of IB that doesn't crash.
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@ Glaucus, DamienMcKenna and anyone else talking down about this update:
Development of major browsers, like IE and Netscape, is accomplished by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people. iBrowse is worked on by how many ??? A lot less! I would be surprised if the number was over 10. Now you tell me how quickly can a program as complicated as a web browser be developed and updated with such a lack of manpower in comparison. It comes as no surprise to me that "current" feature sets, which change _daily_, are not implemented in Amiga browsers. There simply isn't enough manpower to keep up.
I for one am very happy that the iBrowse 2.3 update is finally available. In my opinion, it's interface is much better, and it's stable even when I keep my A4000T running 24x7. I applaud and appreciate the iBrowse development team for their work!
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First impression seem quite nice.
Time for me to register I think.. Slow, I know, I'm sorry.
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[color=0000FF]YAHOOO!!!![/color][/b] :-D :-D :-D
After ages, an update!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
hehehehe :-D
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I'm glad to see development continue. There are still many basic functions that are missing, but to see forward motion is a good thing.
I agree with many of the other posters in their gripes, but I realize the difficulty in keeping pace with other teams with scores of programmers. Hopefully OS4/MOS can get enough of a foothold to draw in some help for IB/V/AWeb.
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@SilvrDrgn
Development of major browsers, like IE and Netscape, is accomplished by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people. iBrowse is worked on by how many ??? A lot less! I would be surprised if the number was over 10. Now you tell me how quickly can a program as complicated as a web browser be developed and updated with such a lack of manpower in comparison. It comes as no surprise to me that "current" feature sets, which change _daily_, are not implemented in Amiga browsers. There simply isn't enough manpower to keep up.
Well of course, but at the same time I find it hard to invest in an AmigaOne with OS4 when I'll be forced to continue using my Windows based web browsers for any serious surfing. This is something the Amiga community really needs to address and Hyperion & Amiga Inc need to take steps to help this situation.
And as for the standards of which you speak, most of them have been standards for the last few years. The web won't wait for Amiga browsers to mature, there are many web sites out there that have gone ahead and used the latest web features. Amiga used to mean innovation and excitment, I don't see why we should now settle for old and stale technologies. If IBrowse can't compete for whatever reason it can only loose.
- Mike
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Well, sportingnews.com still isn't quite right, but the javascript menus work now. EBay doesn't crash anymore either. In fact, no crash yet. Much better than 2.2, but AWeb still displays sportingnews.com more correctly. However, I think this leaves it at 3 sites a day I'll use AWeb for, and 3 for IBrowse so now it's even. Heh, better yet, that leaves none for Opera or Mozilla on Linux. I can now do all my surfing on the Amiga.
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Just thought I say a little something to Stephen and all the beta testers who worked as hard as they did to make sure the JavaScript is where it's at...
thank you... thank you...thank you... thank you...thank you... thank you...thank you... thank you... infinitium et nasium...
Even some of my DHTML components work.
:pint:
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Very nice!
I'm looking forward to suporting future updates of this product.
Again, well done!
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Thank You IBrowse Team,
Keep up the good work.
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Development of major browsers, like IE and Netscape, is accomplished by hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people. iBrowse is worked on by how many ??? A lot less! I would be surprised if the number was over 10. Now you tell me how quickly can a program as complicated as a web browser be developed and updated with such a lack of manpower in comparison. It comes as no surprise to me that "current" feature sets, which change _daily_, are not implemented in Amiga browsers. There simply isn't enough manpower to keep up.
And simply put, you don't honetly know what you're talking about.
The whole Mozilla project, with all of it's forked-off browsers, is a grand total of just over 100 people. For active developers, you can count them in a bakers dozen.
And that's for Mozilla, one of the most complex pieces of code out there, as I'm sure anyone will agree. It is not one web browser, but at least 6. Plus a mail client and news reader.
Most web development groups number in the half-dozen to a dozen range. Even Microsoft doesn't dedicate more than 20 people to IE.
So, even Voyager with only 2 active coders, does stand a chance to keep up with these teams.
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I'm trying it out right now and it's actually not too bad. I could only think of 2 things right now that I wish were included: 1) Flash support and 2) Java (not java script).
That would go a long way toward making it seem like a modern browser. Well, it could use a facelift to get rid of those ugly buttons. Does anyone know if you can replace the images with other ones?
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hmmm. Double post, so I will just edit one. The other thing is jpg support. I've had it working on my system before, but now it doesn't seem to even thought the jpg datatype is intalled in /dev/datatypes