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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Senex on January 08, 2003, 02:08:41 PM

Title: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Senex on January 08, 2003, 02:08:41 PM
Genesi USA (Tax ID Number EIN 42-1567425) was incorporated in Nevada this week. Genesi USA is owned 100% by Genesi Sarl of Luxembourg. (Source: MorphOS-News.de (http://www.morphos-news.de))

Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: MarkTime on January 08, 2003, 02:47:23 PM
wtf?  thats my tax number!

not really, move along ppl....nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Wilse on January 08, 2003, 03:00:25 PM
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move along ppl....nothing to see here.


OK officer Bar Brady.  :-)
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Orgin on January 08, 2003, 04:12:46 PM
@MarkTime

Next news item:

Genesi installs new coffie machine!

/Björn
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Kronos on January 08, 2003, 04:38:49 PM
A major player in  the market opens a branch on the other side of lake deep.

If that ain't "news" than tell me what is !!
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: uncharted on January 08, 2003, 04:44:47 PM
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A major player in the market opens a branch on the other side of lake deep.
If that ain't "news" than tell me what is !!


A major player in the market opens a branch in the middle of of lake deep built upon the backs of 5 drunk swans. :-D
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Senex on January 08, 2003, 06:07:29 PM
As "Heiermann" pointed out on Amiga-News.de:

At www.oreillyferrario.com you can find the lawyers who were put
in charge by Genesi to incorporate Genesi USA. The impressing list
of their clients contains among others Michael Jackson, Olivia
Newton-John, Siegfried & Roy, MGM Grand Hotel...

Again Genesi show that right from the start they play in and aim at a
different liga than AI.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: samface on January 08, 2003, 06:11:41 PM
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Again Genesi show that right from the start they play in and aim at a
different liga than AI.


:roflmao:
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Madgun68 on January 08, 2003, 06:18:15 PM
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A major player in the market opens a branch on the other side of lake deep.

If that ain't "news" than tell me what is !!


It's not news because a monkey could incorporate in Nevada. Seriously.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: createcoms on January 08, 2003, 07:26:16 PM
I guess this comes back to the debate of what amiga.org is all about.  Personally I dont think anything Genesi-related should become a news item.  MorphOS IS NOT AOS, so unless Im blind and the domain name now says morph.org or such then really there is no relevance.  I know non-amiga articles posted here other times were accepted but they were general, non-OS specific stuff.  Putting morphOS stuff here is what could be considered marketing on the moderators behalf and certainly a conflict of interest.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Senex on January 08, 2003, 07:46:23 PM
Sorry, didn't know the current AI back then acquired us users as
well...

Some Amigans use 68k-Amigas (AmigaOS 1.0-3.9). Some Amigans use
x86-PCs (UAE/Amithlon). Some Amigans use Macs (UAE). Some Amigans use
Pegasos (MorphOS). Some Amigans will use AmigaOnes (OS4)...

And what if sudenly Genesi acquires the Amiga-IP and -trademarks? Then
suddenly "we" are allowed to post here and "you" have to leave...?

Look at Amiga-News.de: "Amiga News ...and more".

In my humble opinion, we all are Amigans - and "AMIGA" is way more
than any company can buy.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: zacman on January 08, 2003, 09:01:30 PM
>Putting morphOS stuff here is what could be
>considered marketing on the moderators behalf
>and certainly a conflict of interest.

If you don't like this site please found your own one
on which you can put as much news as you want.
It's up to Wayne what he wants to have on amiga.org
and to noone else.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Kees on January 08, 2003, 09:02:56 PM
@ createcoms

Submit your news and we'll post it ... its very simple



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guess this comes back to the debate of what amiga.org is all about.


Again, submit your news ans we'll post it ... Amiga.org is what the community makes of it.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: MarkTime on January 08, 2003, 09:08:48 PM
You are right the debate is over what is Amiga news.

Here is what I propose as an answer: any environment that runs Amiga software, is relevant to the Amiga community.

That doesn't mean Windows is on topic because UAE is available for windows....it does however mean, that UAE itself is on topic.

So is AROS, Amiga Forever, Amithlon, OS XL, and
MorphOS.

Now, since, this is not a true organization, my opinion doesn't matter and neither does the communities...anything that Wayne doesn't shoot down is on topic...that is the current approach,and thats fine.

But for all those not understanding why MorphOS is relevant, it is because it runs current range of Amiga software....it just does.

Maybe it can't run OS 4 software, but there is no OS 4 software, maybe in the future Morphos isn't appropriate, but thats speculation for the future....right now it runs current amiga software....

no not all, but no amiga model can run it all, except through emulation.

If anything MorphOS on a Pegasos is the fastest way to run Amiga software.  Again, maybe that won't be true in the future, but right now, how can you run Amiga software faster?

Some 68k stuff will run faster on amithlon...true, but amithlon doesn't run amiga ppc software at all....

Its too bad no one does proper reviews...I'd like to know the fastest machine (Amiga) to run Quake II on...who is getting the highest frame rates...Pegasos board or Amithlon in 68k.
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: gary_c on January 09, 2003, 12:57:13 AM
Madgun68 wrote:
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It's not news because a monkey could incorporate in Nevada. Seriously.
Seriously, huh? The issue isn't that it's easy or hard to incorporate in Nevada. The point is that Genesi has set up a corporate entity within the United States. Whether you think this is news or depends on how relevant you think Genesi is to amiga.org readers, but you should at least get the pertinent details straight.

-- gary_c
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Madgun68 on January 09, 2003, 04:03:55 AM
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Seriously, huh? The issue isn't that it's easy or hard to incorporate in Nevada. The point is that Genesi has set up a corporate entity within the United States. Whether you think this is news or depends on how relevant you think Genesi is to amiga.org readers, but you should at least get the pertinent details straight.


Yeah. I've been hearing adverts on the radio: "Incorporate in Nevada" "Save on taxes"

I don't mind seeing the Genesi stuff here. I'm not that excited by their stuff, but I know some are.  It'd be nice to see them spend more time on production though. Every time I check out the UK distrib. site, the pegasos is always listed as sold. If they can't keep up with the small Amiga market, I can't see how they're going to keep up with larger markets all this advertising is targeting..
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Wilse on January 09, 2003, 08:50:06 AM
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The impressing list of their clients contains among others Michael Jackson, Olivia Newton-John


Olivia I can understand - she's the one that they want, after all. But Michael Jackson? That's bad.  ;-)

And both using PegasOS?  :-D
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Bodie on January 09, 2003, 12:46:50 PM
I can already envisage Jackson tossing Genesi products off a balcony ;-) . Now that would be good exposure!
 
 
 
  :crazy:
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: redrumloa on January 09, 2003, 04:08:40 PM
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Putting morphOS stuff here is what could be considered marketing on the moderators behalf and certainly a conflict of interest.


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Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: Wilse on January 09, 2003, 04:12:07 PM
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I can already envisage Jackson tossing Genesi products off


MJ, tossing someone off? Surely not.
He has reputation to uphold, after all. :lol:
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: J on January 09, 2003, 06:00:56 PM
Michael Jackson, Tossing off and Monkeys all in one thread  :-D

J
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: MarkTime on January 09, 2003, 08:09:38 PM
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It's not news because a monkey could incorporate in Nevada. Seriously.


Consumer Electronics Show is in Nevada, Genesi is attending the show, therefore they incorporated in Nevada.

You know, and this isn't aimed at your comment, but some of the others, why people jumped to the most bizarre of conclusions instead of taking the simple one first.  Its a tax dodge...whatever, noone shows a profit their first year...its just accounting principles not a slam on genesi, so they have plenty of time to find the best state for taxes.

Seriously, at their size, they aren't going to get any special deals.  But I digress...letsee what else to whine about.....

Oh yes, being easy to get a tax number...of course, anyone can volunteer to pay taxes.

I think it is news, even though it is true anyone can incorporate, it wasn't just anyone that did, it was genesi and they are a company with product, and thats more than say....Ohhhh a merlancia....
Title: Re: Genesi USA Incorporated
Post by: System on January 10, 2003, 08:58:28 AM
Well its not delaware so thats good.