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Title: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Kees on January 06, 2003, 07:54:15 PM
Apparently, Merlancia (http://www.merlancia.com) is actually going to use their bought MCC design for new Amiga systems. It doesn't seem te be clear wether they will use the AmigaONE or the Pegasus board for their Merlancia Amiga Mulimedia Convergence Computer  (http://www.merlancia.com/mcc) ...

Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: System on January 06, 2003, 08:07:38 PM
Is this a new motherboard? it has 3 PCI slots , and Aone has 4.
OS4 is bundled with that machine?
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: R2D2 on January 06, 2003, 08:41:51 PM
It looks nice! I just might be interested in buying one!  :-) Then again, what if I want to use a bigger monitor with it? It wouldn't be that nice looking anymore with normal white Samsung 19"..  :-?
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: MarkTime on January 06, 2003, 08:47:03 PM
Just a reminder folks, Merlancia is largely a hoax.
It was mostly just Ryan and his mother, he claims he has some more help now, and his operation has consisted mainly of selling old amiga parts and systems from a tiny cluttered room..

The claims of being a worldwide engineering firm were exposed many months ago as being a hoax, and no matter how many times Ryan updates the website, it is still more empty talk.

Now, with that said, according to ryan this 'product' is similar to a pegasos motherboard.  He 'partners' with bPlan, and this motherboard, he says is not simply an exact copy of a pegasos, but differs in some nebulous way which he will not say, probably it fits the mcc case.

Hopefully his price will be better than for a regular pegasos bought from a reputable dealer, because I can tell you one thing, his mother and him have  a terrible reputation in this community for support on the products they sell.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: ikir on January 06, 2003, 09:50:41 PM
Good. Hope to see it working
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: L8-X on January 06, 2003, 10:34:04 PM
LOL!!

I`ll believe it when I see it! :-D

Amiga.inc must`ve sold that design for peanuts.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: MarkTime on January 06, 2003, 11:13:36 PM
I have no idea how much that design cost Amiga to commision in the first place....I hope not a lot....or how much they sold it for....but according to the realpix saga where a lot of Ryan's activities are exposed, he sent them 100,000 dollars...which is real money, I think....but it was not disclosed if this was a purchase price or simply a loan for other matters....
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Troels_E on January 06, 2003, 11:32:22 PM
He lend Amiga Inc. some money at some point (At least he says so)?

The AmigaMMC design was bought from Amiga but no-one knows any details about whether he can actually call this pegasos based (look at the specs!!) computer running mophos an Amiga.

This is not a new PPC computer just a pegasos in a MMC tower. Honestly I doubt he could even produce the tower and especially the monitor would be expensive.

It would be very mis-leading to call it Amiga MMC  as it doesn't run OS4.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: hagar on January 07, 2003, 12:02:54 AM
It says:

# 3 Horizontal PCI slots.

Does that mean some kind of raiser card?
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: JetFireDX on January 07, 2003, 12:15:26 AM
Isn't that the original picture of the MCC that was posted in all the Amiga magazines years and years ago? If it's a "new" product wouldn't they produce a new picture of the system? Did they get the design for the monitor too?
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: MarkTime on January 07, 2003, 01:21:49 AM
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This is not a new PPC computer just a pegasos in a MMC tower. Honestly I doubt he could even produce the tower and especially the monitor would be expensive.


He already said, that for various reasons the MMC will not look exactly as in that photo.  Again, no real reason given, but I imagine its because he didn't get that design produced, but is picking a similar looking design from stock cases...I might be giving him too much credit, perhaps he won't even have a similar looking case.

Its not that good looking a design, but we can wait and see, and I am sure someone will post a link to the source for the case in short order.

I agree with you, there will be no matching monitor.

It's an old joke, and amiga.org has shamed itself for posting this as a news item.   I have found recently that there is a lot more news than what appears on this site.  This site will spread a rumor like wildfire and then misses real news....well noone's perfect, but honestly....how thoroughly does ryan have to be debunked as a sham before amiga's news moderators think twice about it.  This wasn't even released as a news item by Merlancia and it made the news....good grief.

I think that amiga could do the coupon scam again tomorrow and get the same response...no one learns.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Acill on January 07, 2003, 03:31:29 AM
Merlancia Industries is currently working on a complete line of Multimedia and Internet systems, based on Motorola/IBM PowerPC processor technology, with specialized custom components and designer cases by Pentagram and other well known design groups including on-staff conceptual designers. These products, the 'Merlancia Amiga Multimedia Convergence Computer (MCC)' and 'Merlancia Torro' products will start to be available in Q1 2003, with Pilot systems shipping shortly.  

Hehe, i will never forget the first time I walked into Merlancia. I hvent seen so much crap in one place ever since. I hope he does turn out to do well. We need some real systems on the street soon.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Indoro on January 07, 2003, 05:17:45 AM
What differences will there be between this and the Gateway prototype model? A few. Notable differences include: extra ports on the front, a slot loading DVD/CD drive instead of tray loading, different port arrangement on the back, and the materials it is made out of (metal instead of plastic). It will also be a raised a little more so that youcan stow the keybaord under it ala A1000 style. These are "minor styling changes". Not affecting the look of the system, only ading things where none were before.

In regards to a matching monitor: Yes, there will be, and it will be 17", not 15" as the original MCC had. We are also considering a matching LCD, and a vertical stand (similar to the SONY PS2) for the unit so that it may be stood on its side.

Photos will be available shortly of the Pilot systems.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: norm on January 07, 2003, 09:05:19 AM
It looks like they'll be using the Pegasus board as they are partnered with Genesi. See below for more info: http://www.merlancia.com/partners/ (http://www.merlancia.com/partners/)
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Nick on January 07, 2003, 09:22:36 AM
Oh so its a Pegasos thing now. OK.

Can you show me the prrof that this guy is only this guy as I want to read/ see it. I`m all confused now.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: lempkee on January 07, 2003, 11:21:16 AM
if its a pegasos, well then i must say "will it be released" , i know the history of merlancia but i also wonder about hmmm it still does look neat and it might work (as a design).

but still, i belived that pegasos ran Morphos so why have they called it AMIGA MCC?

Anyway in the end of all i could only wish merlancia best of luck , as no matter how hardyou try to forget MCC its a thing from my memory (yes i surely wanted an MCC,ALOT! (back in 99/2k)


a footnote would be, since they are partners of Genesi and since its called Amiga MCC does this mean then that Hyperion/ainc have liscenced the OS to the Amiga McC and not to pegasos or maybe i got this all wrong, sounds abit dubious anyway
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: JoannaK on January 07, 2003, 11:56:05 AM
Actually that sounds more than dubious.. but who am I to tell what's going on.  :-?
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Wilse on January 07, 2003, 01:38:38 PM
Available February 2003? This is a wind up, right?
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: MarkTime on January 07, 2003, 02:27:00 PM
sorry I don't have the address but over at ann.lu they post the address of the realpix site...you know what, if memory serves correct its www.realpix.com/merlancia.html....oh its funny.

One thing I will say to Ryan's credit, he should call this an Amiga, and make Amiga, Inc. sue him if they don't like it.  That will prove the toothless tiger theory once and for all (and I think it would prove just that)...but who knows, it will be interesting.

If Amiga, Inc. doesn't even protect their trademarks, they aren't protecting much of anything..and the word Amiga most definately CAN go into the public domain, if Amiga Inc doesn't protect that trademark.

And then Amiga Incs theoretical ability to grab the amiga.org domain would also slip away as well.
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: ksk on January 07, 2003, 02:32:53 PM
LOL! They intend to call it an Amiga while they run MorphOS on it !!!!!


I BET Amiga Inc does not have balls to sue them !
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: Kronos on January 07, 2003, 05:58:33 PM
@norm
You mean this :

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Genesi SARL is a Lithuania


?????

AFAIK Lithuania = Litauen = 1 of the baltic republics (former soviet-republic).

Genesi is in Luxenbourg and that just as much the oppostite of a
baltic republic as you can get.

I also remember that there was some "misunderstandings"
between bPlan and Merlancia in 2001 when Ryan claimed he had financed
the Pegasos-development. Odd thing is bPlan didn't know of it ....
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: odin on January 07, 2003, 07:02:31 PM
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Marktime wrote:

It's an old joke, and amiga.org has shamed itself for posting this as a news item. I have found recently that there is a lot more news than what appears on this site. This site will spread a rumor like wildfire and then misses real news....well noone's perfect, but honestly....how thoroughly does ryan have to be debunked as a sham before amiga's news moderators think twice about it.


If you're so unhappy about the newspostings then why don't you go looking for newsitems yourself and post em? User interaction is the only way to improve it if you're annoyed by it....
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: MarkTime on January 07, 2003, 08:59:28 PM
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If you're so unhappy about the newspostings then why don't you go looking for newsitems yourself and post em? User interaction is the only way to improve it if you're annoyed by it....


Uhmmm... I was not complaining about lack of news items, but the posting of rumors as news items, and I do contribute to fixing this problem. The Amithlon Kernel 'update' which many sites carried, was not carried here, because I had researched the topic and notified amiga.org staff the moment a similar item was posted here.

I posted to the forums, the recent beta release of UAE for Mac OS X .

I didn't post directly to news allowing the community to decide if this is really an amiga story (in a broad interpretation it is)...or if it is in fact a Mac OS X story (some people feel so)...in any event noone picked it up and moved it to news...but it was posted to the forums for all to read.

So...I do contribute, and complaining about this Ryan story is another way of contributing.  Someone needs to be alerted that at least one member, and probably many, are getting tired of simple HTML changes on some bogus website being posted as news...a product release or review is news....this is entirely rumor mongering....and why are we feeding this madmans ego anyway?

good grief
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: BADHead on January 07, 2003, 09:33:44 PM
i would really like to see it happen as i would
be very interested  :-)
it would go nice with my new flat screen
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: odin on January 07, 2003, 10:48:14 PM
@marktime:

I misinterpreted your post, I apologize for any caused aggravation :-).
Title: Re: Merlancia Amiga MCC
Post by: redrumloa on January 08, 2003, 12:02:00 AM
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So...I do contribute, and complaining about this Ryan story is another way of contributing


While I may agree with you that Merlancia is a questionable company or this is questionable news, you are going about it the wrong way. The news moderators are clearly listed to the right hand side. If you really feel this news posting is inappropriate email or PM one of them and explain why you feel so.

Besides, I think the Merlancia smoke screen has been pretty openly exposed in the last year. Anyone who has been paying attention will see that.