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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Retail News / Sales => Topic started by: Desler on November 23, 2002, 01:03:27 AM
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Just recieved an Email from Kiwi multimedia. AmigaOne boards will be shipped mid-December. The prices range from 5995 dkr for the SE G3 600 mhz - 8495 dkr for the XE G4 800 Mhz. Kiwi multimedia recommends that you should preorder your AOne if you want it this year Kiwi multimedia (http://www.kiwimultimedia.dk) The site had not been updated the last time I checked, but anytime now...
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Fedt nok :-D
Gælder det komplet systemer, eller er det bare bundkortet?
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Det er vist kun for bundkortene, det falder i hvert fald meget godt i tråd med priserne på Eyetech's side (http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/oct252002a.php) + dansk moms.
[Suk] Jeg får aldrig råd til en G4-XE, det er sgu lige før det er Mac-tilstande :cry:
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Blomberg wrote:
Det er vist kun for bundkortene, det falder i hvert fald meget godt i tråd med priserne på Eyetech's side + dansk moms.
[Suk] Jeg får aldrig råd til en G4-XE, det er sgu lige før det er Mac-tilstande :cry:
Ja, det er sgu dyrt :cry:
Jeg har undersøgt sagen med Vesalia, der koster det 6901kr for G4-XE bundkortet!
Men da jeg spurgte dem om hvor langt deres butik ligger fra den Dansk-Tyske grænse, sagde de at det er omkring 450-500Km derfra :cry: Det er sgu langt :cry:
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:cry:
:-D
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Tja. det er en smule dyrt for det XE kort.
Måske det bedre kan svare sig at hente dem selv, hvis nu der var en der skulle der ned, kunne det være vedkomne kunne tage en masse XE kort med for nogle andre.. Der er alligevel nogle penge at spare.
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Når det kommer til stykket, så er det da altid noget, at *nogen* henter dem hjem... Betafon er vist efterhånden ved at falde fra...
Jeg håber, at kiwi får solgt nogen.
-Nybo
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> Ja, det er sgu dyrt
Ser at det er omtrent like dyrt som hos Datakompaniet her i Noreg. Eg spurde kvifor det var nesten 1000 kroner (norske) dyrare her enn i andre land, og fekk vite at dei ikkje kjøper direkte frå Eyetech. Grunnen er at Eyetech krevar at ein kjøper minst 10 kort, noko Datakompaniet ikkje er heilt sikre på at dei klarer å selge. Går ut ifrå at det er på samme måte for Kiwi.
Det kostar å bo i eit lite land...:-(
Kay
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Can someone suggest a good translation site so I can find out what you are all so unhappy about?
I can't cry into my beer with you guys until then! :-o
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@Blade
Seems that the prices are a bit high (maybe due to the insane
danish "luxus-tax"). Atleast that is what I understand with
my non-existing danish.
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luxus tax...VAT?
Thats a shame, I wonder if they can be grey imported cheaper. Denmark is an EU country yes?
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> Can someone suggest a good translation site so I can find out what you are all so unhappy about?
:-) I don't think you'll find a translation site which can cope with my comment regardless of where you look, it is in the least-popular type of written Norwegian (we have two types). I haven't seen any online translator which can do Danish either.
I'll provide you with a summary instead. Basicaly, the Danes are all sad because the AmigaOne prices in Denmark are higher than in Germany, and the rest of the world for that matter. I'm sad because the prices here in Norway are equally high. Additionally, I'm telling the Danes that reason the Norwegian dealer charge so much is that they are not buying directly from Eyetech, because of the 10 card minimum. I suggested that this might be the reason why it is so expensive in Denmark as well.
Kay
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Jeg har også selv fået brevet, og fik et chock over de priser... men i det mindste har de da en Her&nu låns ordning så de kan finansere det :-)
Translation:
I got the mail myself, and was in chock over the prices... But atleast they have the option of a Quick loan to finance the board :-)
ps. very dirty translated.
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Well we could set up something where the primary sale takes place in the UK ( say I buy from Eyetech ) and then a second-hand sale takes place in Denmark/Norway.
In the UK resale second hand is not subject to luxury-taxation ( VAT ).
Then we just have to find someone who travels to continental Europe via the Channel-Tunnel on a frequent basis and meet up like shady drug dealers somewhere in northern Germany to do a handover of goods and money.
:-D
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I don't think you'll find a translation site which can cope with my comment regardless of where you look, it is in the least-popular type of written Norwegian (we have two types).
Two types? As in slang?
Like in english.
"How are you doing my friend"
And now a poor fascimile of.
"yo yo yo wuzzup my nigga"
:-P
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Det kostar å bo i eit lite land...
Vad kostar de olika AmigaOne-modellerna i Norge då?
Kan du inte beställa från GGS-Data (http://www.ggsdata.se) här i Sverige då om dem är billigare?
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@redrum:
No more like two official ways of spelling. Nynorsk and Bokmaal. At least that's what Kay ment I think. Couldn't recognise his Norwegian as Nynorsk though :-). (Nynorsk is more popular way up North I think, isn't it Kay?)
See here (http://www.dypevag.freeserve.co.uk/translate.htm) for a bit more info.
Then again my Norwegian sucks (I finally got my Norwegian passport yesterday!! :-D :-D. /me happy).
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> Two types? As in slang?
Nope, two official written languages. Norway spent a lot of time under Danish rule, and during that time Danish was the written language in Norway. After Norway became independent again, the Danish language used in Norway was gradually transformed to be closer to how people spoke (particularly how people spoke in the cities, and even more particularly, how they spoke in Oslo). However, not all were happy about this, and wanted a written language based on original Norwegian. A man named Ivar Aasen set out to create such a language by travelling the country collecting words. He created a language which was mostly based on rural dialects (with special emphasis on the western dialects), which he (probably correctly) considered to be more true to the original Norwegian language. Anyway, long and tedius story made short, we now have two official written languages, "bokmål" which is the norwegianized Danish, and "nynorsk" is the one based on Aasen's work. They are both legally equal, any official documents must be available in both, and everybody in Norway understands both. I use the one called "nynorsk", as it is closer to my dialect. Besides, it is approximately two orders of magnitude more masculine than the other. :-P
And that concludes today's lesson on Norwegian language history (an immensely boring subject in many ways).
Kay
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> Besides, it is approximately two orders of magnitude more
> masculine than the other.
Heh, I surely hit a nerve with my old forum comment on the
"cuteness" of the norwegian language, didn't I ? :-P
Anyways, it's an interesting history-lesson. Didn't know all
the details. Thanks!
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SlimJim
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> Vad kostar de olika AmigaOne-modellerna i Norge då?
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> Kan du inte beställa från GGS-Data här i Sverige då om dem är billigare?
Utan moms:
A1G3-SE 5300NOK
A1G3-XE 6200NOK
A1G4-XE 6800NOK
Desse prisane vert marginalt lågare dersom ein bestiller via epost (2% rabatt).
Eg tenkte på å bestille frå GGS, men etter å ha undersøkt frakt og gebyr til post og bank, vart det berre om lag 350 kroner billegare. Sidan der er ein sjanse for at eg har oversett enkelte gebyr og avgifter (det norske postvesenet er utruleg flinke til å grafse til seg pengar), og sidan eg bur i gangavstand frå Datakompaniet, kom eg til at det ikkje var verdt bryet og den eventuelle ekstra ventetida.
Kay
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Well....IMHO Swedish is way cuter than Norwegian :-).
Has more 'melody' to it.
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@odin:
Nice to see that the all-father Odin is still somwhat in touch with Norwegian affairs :-P. Anyway, you were correct about me referring to nynorsk/bokmål. Nynorsk is not particularly predominant in the North, though. It's the ragged and weathered western coast (were men are men, etc...) which is nynorsk heartland.
@SlimJim:
Damn right you struck a nerve! Cute!!! Pah! I'm 95kg of real man! Real man I tell you!!
Kay
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@ Kay
Thank you for the historical enlightenment, I wasn't quite up to speed on the whole Bokmål/Nynorsk situation.
I think something similar should have been done in Denmark a long time ago (probably too late now) as many of the dialects bare very little resemblence to the official written (and spoken) language, and there are still times when I drive by a townsign in my province that I wonder 'how the hell did they get *that* name out of the original dialect one'.
But now instead, more and more people conform to the official danish language, gradually forgetting their dialect, which is a damn shame.
Even my friends make fun of me sometimes when I utter some Sønderjysk word and they are all from the same area! There are not very many people around my age (23) that speak it anymore.
But oh well, we'll soon all be speaking English anyway (or American :shocked: ) or perhaps Chinese :-D
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Jeg har undersøgt sagen med Vesalia, der koster det 6901kr for G4-XE bundkortet!
Er det med eller uden moms (hvor meget er den tyske moms på?)?
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Kay wrote:
Nope, two official written languages ...
Findes der egentligt ikke 3 officielle norske sprog???
Nynorsk, Bokmål (Riksmål) og Samisk
Er det ikke rigtigt??? :-D
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Det er inklusive moms :-D
Den tyske moms er på 16%
Jeg har også set på priserne fra "KDH Datentechnik", og de er lidt dyrere!
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Kay wrote
> Ja, det er sgu dyrt
Ser at det er omtrent like dyrt som hos Datakompaniet her i Noreg. Eg spurde kvifor det var nesten 1000 kroner (norske) dyrare her enn i andre land, og fekk vite at dei ikkje kjøper direkte frå Eyetech. Grunnen er at Eyetech krevar at ein kjøper minst 10 kort, noko Datakompaniet ikkje er heilt sikre på at dei klarer å selge. Går ut ifrå at det er på samme måte for Kiwi.
Det kostar å bo i eit lite land...
Kay
Nu skal du jo også regne med at Norge ikke er med i EU, det vil jo også resultere i at der vil komme Told oveni!
Da jeg købte "Kjemi i skolen - undervisning og læring" gennem www.gnist.no (http://www.gnist.no), da skulle jeg også betale told/moms oveni det beløb jeg skulle betale for bogen :cry:
Da jeg købte "Naturfag som allmenndannelse" i Danmark, da var bogen også nogle hundrede kroner dyrere end den kostede i Norge :cry:
Men det er jo også Danmark :-(
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@hnl_dk
Findes der egentligt ikke 3 officielle norske sprog???
Nynorsk, Bokmål (Riksmål) og Samisk
Det er korrekt, men ingen bryr seg, det er bare så samene ikke skal sutre og aksjonere det har "offisiell språkstatus"
@odin
Well....IMHO Swedish is way cuter than Norwegian .
I used to love hearing swedish girls talk, found it really sexy. But after a vacation too much in Southern-Europe it's become filthy.
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> Findes der egentligt ikke 3 officielle norske sprog???
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> Nynorsk, Bokmål (Riksmål) og Samisk
Eg trur du har rett i at samisk er eit offisielt språk i Noreg. For å spikke litt fliser, er det ikkje eit offisielt *norsk* språk, sidan det ikkje er beslekta med norsk.
Kay
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Betafon er vist efterhånden ved at falde fra...
Jeg sendte en email til betafon for nogle uger siden, men jeg har ikke fået noget svar endnu.
Absalon data i valby har også amiga ting, men deres hjemmeside er VIRKELIG rodet, så det er fuldstændigt umuligt at finde en email til dem
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Hvad blev der i grunden af Kornum Data (http://www.kornum-data.dk/)?
På denne her (http://www.micam.dk/links.html) side står der at de vil forhandle AmigaOne, DE og OS4, men det er godt nok bare en eller andens personlige hjemmeside og ikke noget officielt.
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@NyQuil
:lol:
@Kay
ok ;-)
@Blomberg
Lukkede "Kornum Data" ikke for et stykke tid siden?
Det var da dem der kørte "Amiga Club Danmark"
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Lukkede "Kornum Data" ikke for et stykke tid siden?
Det var da dem der kørte "Amiga Club Danmark"
Tja, det er da meget muligt, jeg kender ikke noget til dem overhovedet, andet end hvad jeg har hørt nævnt et eller andet sted (her?) og det, der står på den side.
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Det her var det første (eneste) sted jeg har set AmigaOne til "salg": http://www.onlinesalg.dk/default.asp?Firmaid=1398 (http://www.onlinesalg.dk/default.asp?Firmaid=1398)
Men det er "Amiga Club Danmark"/"Kornum Data" som ikke længere er blandt os :-(
Jeg mener at jeg skrev til dem i foråret, men fik aldrig svar :-(
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Lige lidt off-topic, men er der nogen af jer der kender en (eller flere) gode bøger der omhandler projektarbejdsformen, specielt med henblik på Fysik/Kemi.
Jeg ville blive rigtig glad, hvis jeg kunne finde noget godt litteratur om emnet :-D
Bare bøgerne er gode, så gør det ikke noget at de er på Dansk/Norsk/Engelsk/Tysk/Svensk (Prioriteret rækkefølge ;-))
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Even my friends make fun of me sometimes when I utter some Sønderjysk word and they are all from the same area! There are not very many people around my age (23) that speak it anymore.
Synnejysk æ fedt... De æ bare sure fordi de æt sjel ka forstå et..
Jeg har bestilt min G4XE direkte ved Eyetech, så slipper jeg nemlig både for alle mulige mellemhandlere hvis der er noget, og jeg undgår den sindsygt høje danske moms.
Translation for the danishly challenged:
I ordered my G4XE directly at Eyetech. This way I don't have to deal with a lot of middlemen if there are any issues and I don't have to pay the insanely high danish VAT.
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Synnejysk æ fedt...
Ja, gu æ det det - og mit rigsdansk lye a helvede te :-D
(Tager den lige på engelsk af hensyn til de andre)
I ordered my G4XE directly at Eyetech. This way I don't have to deal with a lot of middlemen if there are any issues and I don't have to pay the insanely high danish VAT.
Are you sure that you avoid the VAT by ordering from England? I was under the impression that only when you pick it up personally, you would get it at the English VAT. For the record, I have really no experience in dealing with foreign countries, so maybe it's a stupid question :-D
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Are you sure that you avoid the VAT by ordering from England? I was under the impression that only when you pick it up personally, you would get it at the English VAT.
Quite sure, yes! I've ordered several times from England and only paid English VAT. Didn't order computerhardware though, just books (About N scale modelrailroading, in case anyone wants to know).
So AFAIK if your inside the EU borders anything goes!
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Sounds like I'll be ordering from Eyetech as well, then.
There's about 1.500 kr (!) saved that way (on the G4) - that's about a month's worth of cigarettes (yes, I smoke a lot) and I can't abstain for so long :-)
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Jeg snakker ikke Dansk/Norsk ;-)
Regards,
Ben de Waal
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I´ve also ordered outside danish borders several times, both hardware and books... Inside EU you only pay VAT ONCE. It´s a part of EU´s taxation rules, so it´s not only including VAT. A guy from i.e. Italy could work in Denmark for a year, and then go back to Italy, and pay the income tax there.
But remember: When ordering outside Denmark, the distributors take very high shipment prices. Be sure to take notice of this in your comparing of prices!!
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Det her var det første (eneste) sted jeg har set AmigaOne til "salg": http://www.onlinesalg.dk/default.asp?Firmaid=1398
Hmmm..
AmigaOne Board DKK 0,00
Så kan det vist ikke gøres billigere :)
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Hmmm..
AmigaOne Board DKK 0,00
Så kan det vist ikke gøres billigere :)
Nej, det har du sgu nok ret i :lol:
Jeg så iøvrigt lige på en anden tråd at A1 er ret billig i Italien, kunne være man skulle bestille derfra. Men det kommer selvfølgelig an på hvor høj deres moms er.
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@ alla
Men vackrast utav de skandinaviska spåken är ju ändå Skånskan!
Det finns ingen bättre dialekt att skrika "DANSKJÄVLAR!" på...
:-D :-D :-D