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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: barryum on November 22, 2002, 06:11:13 AM
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"Quite preliminary screenshots of the AmigaOS 4 GUI"
"These screenshots are very preliminary and must not - by any means - be considered as the definitive appearance of the AmigaOS 4.0 GUI. Work is still in progress, and a lot of improvements are being added, including the user's ability to configure almost everything."
See them here: http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4GUIPre.php (http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4GUIPre.php)
Source: Amiga.com (http://os.Amiga.com)
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:-D
supper....
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I was wondering why you would want to eat the screenshots until I realised that you meant "super" :-D
No matter, they look great, except perhaps for the square corners on the [edit] windows. I hope they can be rounded a little bit, not as much as QNX, perhaps, but that square look looks square (if you know what I mean).
I especially like the appearance of the hotlinks in the Amigaguide window - very pretty.
tony
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Hmm, I kinda liked the first of them, with the brushed metal look. Neat.
Although I want to be able to resize windows by using any of the four corners of a window. Having to find the lower right corner every time and either first or last move the window to be able to resize it is really not my idea of a friendly gui.
/Björn
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dinner... :-D
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NOW WE'RE TALKING!!! :-o :-o :-o
100 % dR00l! :-D
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Hoya!
YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Looks dead cool!
Gimme gimme gimme!!! ;-)
Be funky
M A D
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:-) It's getting there, it's getting there... Some of these are very promising. And as it says, nothing is definitive, yet.
;-) I like that the window title bar's bitmap can be defined separately from the rest of the window border's bitmap. Similarly, the screen title bar has its own bitmap. Cool.
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Gimme gimme gimme gimme! :-D
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Cool.. it seems like one can change the apperance of exactly everything that meets the eye on that desktop!! ;-) :-o
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Cool screenshots indeed. Many people here at work found them very interesting ;-)
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Can't stand them, the colours are all wrong, textures are all rubbish, I mean who makes these? Is he/she colour blind? :lol:
I AM KIDDING!!
I have to say the first one is the best one tho. Even though it has a slight WindowsXP feel
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Maybe Hyperion could release a beta version for the AmigaONE for a few "Earlybird" people?
HEHE Now that would be cool!
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Cool....
These are a lot nicer... shows good progress !
I'm getting more tempted to get an A1 now :-)
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Actually caught myself trying to click some of the menus.. Damn, allmost felt it was here for a few secs.
"Get over here you foxy thing!!" :-D
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Keep up the good work AmigaOS4 team! It's good to see that nearly everything can be customized already. The work which you guys have done so far is amazing. :-)
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This is very nice looking indeed.
OS4 developers have done an excellent job.
Just think about all the "themes" that will start to appear on aminet.
All you'll have to do is select a gui.prefs file ..... nice!!!
Its so close now i can smell it.
I agree it would be nice if Early birds did ship with a beta version of OS4.
:-o :-o :-o
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Eer0 wrote:
it seems like one can change the apperance of exactly everything that meets the eye on that desktop!!
There are still a few things I'd like to see changed or made available. For instance, the +/- gadgets would be better set top and bottom rather than side by side and the tabbed panes need to have active and inactive colors for the fonts like the majority of the other GUI preferences. One bit of functionality I've asked for since before OS3.5 was released was middle mouse button to parent directory on the file requesters. The feature wasn't in OS3.9 so I don't think it will be seen in OS4 (I hope I'm wrong though). Perhaps a programmable MMB for file requesters would be good. I hope we get a really good selection of previously royalty free image tiles included with the OS. The nice thing though, theming the OS will be a lot easier now.
:pint:
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Looking good. This really gets me interested in an A1 and OS4.
But I'd like to wait for the first review before I decide. No matter how good it looks, it has to be stable too.
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As long as it's still small n' fast, and one can keep the old look as an option to keep it fast I'm happy. Performance is more important for me.
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Nice, really looks the part and does show how you can customise it alot.
Very much like the first screeny on the list...super sweet :-)
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ah...... :crazy:
I WANT IT NOW :-x
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Almost brings a tear to the old eye.
Hyperion rules.
One day, I hope the AmigaOne and OS4 will be sitting right here in front of me.
Thanks Amiga Inc.
Thanks Hyperion.
Thanks to everyone who is making this possible.
Great work!!!
And just to think...
You don't have to hack everything to get it to look this good.
Man...
Man...
Man...
Good, stable, neat, native code built right in.
eheheheheh.
I give you an A as far as looks.
Now, let's see the stability.
BTW...
Those fonts look great.
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It looks excellent, would be nice to see some apps or games running on AOS4 as well to really.... show it off...
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I sure do like the screenshots.
Coder
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Veeery nice indeed...! :-D
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Very tasty.
However it's just as well that you can spend hours and hours cusomising everything.... because youre not going to have any decent apps to run on the thing!
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Stop being an arse, the Amiga has tons of software that'll run on it. PLUS i'm going to start coding for it the minute i get my hands on the updated DevCD.
Really, I'm OK with people wanting AmigaOS, or wanting MorphOS, both or neither, but I'm fed up with idiots putting down the operating system they chose not to use. You think its no use to you? Fine, well don't bloody use it then! :-x :-x :-x
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Wow - I'm very impressed!
Not only very slick and "cutesie" looking but having transparent pull downs is helpful to unclutter the desktop, keep track of what’s open, reference paths and see desk top activities.
Soooo encouraging .......Keep it coming Amiga et al.
Bob C.
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Very nice. Good to see those GUI preferences.
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redfox
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Looking good.
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SlimJim
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Ohhh yummmy! :-D
Gimme gimme gimme!!!!!! :-)
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Just a quick plug for the members of this site: the tone is always encouraging and even when there is disagreement it's almost always conciliatory. Compare this to the same discussion on amiga.org right now.
Trolls.
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"Just a quick plug for the members of this site: the tone is always encouraging and even when there is disagreement it's almost always conciliatory. Compare this to the same discussion on amiga.org right now.
Trolls."
I think it was ment to go like
Just a quick plug for the members of this site: the tone is always encouraging and even when there is disagreement it's almost always conciliatory. Compare this to the same discussion on ANN right now.
Trolls.
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Very impressive!
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I think it was ment to go like
Just a quick plug for the members of this site: the tone is always encouraging and even when there is disagreement it's almost always conciliatory. Compare this to the same discussion on ANN right now.
This is true. In fact, I feel my post to skyraker was a little bit too strong (although I still stand by the sentiment), and I think I only did that because I had just come here from reading the childish fights on ANN :-D
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All I got to say is AWESOME!!!
:-D
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They REALLY do need an Art Director. And a GOOD one.
The first ipression is REALLY REALLY REALLY important!
We gotta let them know that. And this AD should NOT be
an average amiga scene graphician working for free.
This matter needs a guy with great skills and knowledge. A Pro.
There is no reason AmigaOS should look
cheaper than any other modern OSes. They said something like
"now you have the enginge, make it look good" That is not the
way to go. It has to look SWEET from the beginning, and when
we are tired of that, then, we customise our WB's.
DO NOT HIRE A HOBBYIST AD - HIRE A PRO! IT WILL BE WORTH IT!
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I think they are trying to reasure the comunity that things can look as promised. These shots are to make it obvious what goes where. I think these are from the programming team rather than the designer.
A professional will use contrasting colours to 'map out' areas. So this look is par for the course as far as development goes. I guess the real look is hidden away and a professional would be hard at work generating new themes.
Don't expect the final look of OS4 to be unwrapped until just before it is released. Remember there were skins of Mac OSX out for Windows months before it was released for the Mac.
Hold tight nearly there.
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@SpotUP
I toke a copy of the screen shots into the guys at work, and they were impressed.
I showed them the first shot (as it is the one i liked best) and aside frrom one of them thinking it was a linux shot (!) all thought it looked OK.
BTW I don't think that this is an advert for the masses seeing as Amiga don't intend to publicly launch OS4 until Cebit. This is just to keep US hardcore Amiga users happy
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What the heck is wrong with the damn people over at ann.lu?? No matter what AmigaINC does, they bash bash bash bash....
Why cant they just sit there with their stupid wintel boxes instead of bashing... WE are not FORCED to buy it unless we want to...
Blah blah blah the fonts are.... the colors are.... Why cant they get into their tiny skulls that AOS4.0 is totally customizeable?? If you dont like the fonts, colors or whatever just fuc*ing change it. And if those people can read, they see that AmigaINC stated, this is NOT the final looks. Its just dam* examples...
Sorry for the cursing.. im just sick tired of those people. :-x
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@Valan and SpotUP
I agree... but i too don't think this is anything from the final look...it was just a bunch of screens to show what is possible with the gui configuration wise.
Somehow, i've got the feeling that SimoAmi is involved in bringing a look to OS4. But i could be wrong ofcourse, though i hope he is involved.
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z5 wrote:
Somehow, i've got the feeling that SimoAmi is involved in bringing a look to OS4. But i could be wrong ofcourse, though i hope he is involved.
Yup, SimoAmi is involved with designing some of the graphics to be used with OS4. If I remember correctly, we've already seen an example of some gadgets (I won't comment on which though). SimoAmi does excellent work, both in graphics and programming. It will be very nice to see all of his work involved with OS4. Keep in mind, SimoAmi and Matt Chaput are not the only ones involved with the graphics design, iirc there are two more people working in that particular section.
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Yup, SimoAmi is involved with designing some of the graphics to be used with OS4. If I remember correctly, we've already seen an example of some gadgets (I won't comment on which though). SimoAmi does excellent work, both in graphics and programming. It will be very nice to see all of his work involved with OS4. Keep in mind, SimoAmi and Matt Chaput are not the only ones involved with the graphics design, iirc there are two more people working in that particular section.
This is good news. Somehow, i feel positive about OS4. I think they know what they are doing. Keeping fingers crossed. By the way, Kent, how do you know this info? I think simoami is talented, as is Matt Chaput. Maybe Mason is working on stuff also?
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z5 wrote:
By the way, Kent, how do you know this info?
Personal connection with SimoAmi and Matt Chaput as well as a fairly direct line with members of the Hyperion staff. I haven't stated anything that isn't already public knowledge anyway. SimoAmi posted on AO a few months back that he was offered to do some graphics for OS4 later saying that he would be working directly with Matt Chaput. It's this damn photogenic memory I have I guess.
Not to mention, I got a 51% weirdness factor on the Amiga Purity test (http://amiga.org/forums/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4341&forum=1) :-P .
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Once more they did ugly screenshots... I was hoping for something like the Dock screenshots.
These screenshots have meaning only to us Amigans, they show what excactly we want to know. That is fully configurable.
Once more we will be humiliated in the sites of slashdot, OS/News whateverPC site for the uglyness of our beloved AmigaOS (cause the thing they `ll see it`s ugly to their eyes, it can be excactly like their OSes but they don`t know it or consider that.)
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Hello there people.......OS 4.0 was meant as a transition OS from one world to another......i get the impression that some of you think that OS 5.0 is about to be released....Well guess what.....IT'S NOT....THIS IS ONLY 4.0 and as far as I can tell it looks absolutely marvelous!! :-o
Some of you are making judgements like it's 5.0........it's not!!
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Cool. I like! I like options to customise things. It looks like I will not be disapointed.
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Doesn't take much for you people to get excited :roll:
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@Alkemyst
"I think it was ment to go like..."
Oops... good catch! :-o
I'm sure everyone got the message.
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@Kent
"Yup, SimoAmi is involved with designing some of the graphics to be used with OS4."
Sorry to burst any bubbles here but all of the OS4 desktop design work has been done internally.
Mohamed (SimoAmi) and I have been in contact with Ben and Fleecy but haven't contributed in any formal capacity, apart from some wallpaper designs.
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Doesn't take much for you people to get excited
After nearly a decade of practically nothing, screenshots of a nearly finished OS4 is exciting to many of us.
Please keep it above the belt.
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ne_one wrote:
Sorry to burst any bubbles here but all of the OS4 desktop design work has been done internally.
Mohamed (SimoAmi) and I have been in contact with Ben and Fleecy but haven't contributed in any formal capacity, apart from some wallpaper designs.
Nothing new from last I heard then, asside from Mohamed is not working directly with Matt. Hmm, I'll have to double back and see where I mixed up that information... Perhaps I confused some of Kevin's works with Mohamed's. Oh well, thanks for the correction. I know you and Mohamed do some awesome work, I especially like the soda pop image (using it now believe it or not). Keep it up.
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Argh!My eyes!
Obviously this is a coders desktop.;-)
Seriously it gives you an idea of what
the foundation is going to look like.
And I'm very pleased.Weeeeeeeeeeee!
:-D
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Well, i dont like the images, but thats just my opinions on the users colour tasts. I do like the configurability. But hopfuly, when skinning is supported (OS4.2) you'll be able to place larger images in an exact position in the Window/WindowTitle and now have it repeat and shink-resize the title bar to fit your theme.... But, progress is being made.
What would be cool is if Hyperion worked on an IDE for AmigaOS. an IDE to develop not only native apps, but apps in DE. Maybe they'll be worked on towards OS5 (if my theory is right, AmigaOS will become the official development platform of AmigaDE... which would be cool)...
Anyway, nice shots...
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Stop being an arse, the Amiga has tons of software that'll run on it. PLUS i'm going to start coding for it the minute i get my hands on the updated DevCD.
Really, I'm OK with people wanting AmigaOS, or wanting MorphOS, both or neither, but I'm fed up with idiots putting down the operating system they chose not to use. You think its no use to you? Fine, well don't bloody use it then!
Ahhh Tickly, i think that was some light humour, calm down. After all, its not as if he was talking about yo mumma? <--- light humour :)
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Ahhh!!!! Nice.
Lite schysst jul mumma.......................
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That's nice! I like it far better than what I am using. It will be so cool to have a system that makes sense again.
Spiffy :-) :-D :-P
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Whoaa....Texture Overload. ;-)
I like the level of configurability shown. Just about everything you could wanna change, can be.
But for me the most important thing is that this is no longer done with hacks and patches, but is built into intuition itself, so stability should not be an issue.
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BTW I don't think that this is an advert for the masses seeing as Amiga don't intend to publicly launch OS4 until Cebit. This is just to keep US hardcore Amiga users happy
You are correct. And, if by masses you mean new computer users, then AmigaOS4 wont be marketed towards them.
Amiga Inc (as far as im concerned) know that the OS is lacking major functionality and applications. A product of its type is only marketable to Current AmigaOS users, Alternative OS Geeks, and past Amiga Users.
I think you could expect Version 5.0, to be marketed towards the type of people that haven touched acomputer before. But not likly before... (as in, its not likly, but at the earliest, OS4.5 or later)...
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You are correct. And, if by masses you mean new computer users, then AmigaOS4 wont be marketed towards them.
Amiga Inc (as far as im concerned) know that the OS is lacking major functionality and applications. A product of its type is only marketable to Current AmigaOS users, Alternative OS Geeks, and past Amiga Users.
I think you could expect Version 5.0, to be marketed towards the type of people that haven touched acomputer before. But not likly before... (as in, its not likly, but at the earliest, OS4.5 or later)...
I don't know Rodney, I have to think that this is just for showing the level to which you can change every little thing. I'm sure they will have a nice professional looking desktop included by default that would appeal to others outside of the existing community. After all, they are planning to launch it at Cebit, so it better look industry/general public ready by the time of that show.
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It has been made quite clear that these screenshots don't
represent the final look. But towards the actual release of
AOS4, we will want to have some sort of nice "standard"
setup. I'm sure the AOS GUI developers are good at what
they do. But this is an aspect that differs widely from user
to user (hence configurability, but we need some common
scheme too, to present at shows, and historically the old
Workbench >1.3 were always very dull without some extra
work...)
Why not, when the interface-look itself is ready, give the
community a mockup of the OS (on a webpage) with a list
of the possible gadgets, so that we can cut&paste and
suggest our favourite colours/gadgets to use for the final
release. Who else to be allowed input on this matter than
us?
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SlimJim
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...and historically the old Workbench >1.3 were always very dull without some extra
work...)
I agree, the original WB colours were far better than the greys of WB2.0 +.
The colour scheme of the original WB is being used by Apple and Microsoft, so It seems that it is very modern.
Personally I would like OS4 to use these colours again to bring the original Amiga look bang up to date. In a sense this would tell past users that a real Amiga is back while underlining the great heritage the OS has with what are considered modern functions.
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@Tickly
This is true. In fact, I feel my post to skyraker was a little bit too strong (although I still stand by the sentiment), and I think I only did that because I had just come here from reading the childish fights on ANN
Heh, I will be buying an Amigaone but I still stand by what I say too, it's going to be a while before the killer apps we hope for arrive..... nevertheless it will be interesting to see peoples configs...
Best Regards
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I don't know Rodney, I have to think that this is just for showing the level to which you can change every little thing.
huh? Sorry, what am i changing?
I'm sure they will have a nice professional looking desktop included by default that would appeal to others outside of the existing community. After all, they are planning to launch it at Cebit, so it better look industry/general public ready by the time of that show.
I wasnt commenting on the screenshots for the comment you quoted me on. I was mearly giving my opinion on what i think Amiga should be doing and what i think they will bo doing in terms of marketing.
Plus, if you read the recent executive update by bill, he pretty much said what i just did. That is, marketing will focus on past Amiga users, current amiga users and geeks.
Never did i say i didnt think they would have a nice interface, come the release of OS4. I know they'll have a nice interface.
Its true i dont like the look of the screen shots from an eyecandy point of view, but i love them from what it looks like you can do with it (The GUI).
Im confused by your reply as you said i was trying to change little things? As if i was spready FUD. Thats not me, im sorry if it came across like that, but all im doing is givin my opinion. Which, in the last coupla days, has been fact. (Amiga will be targeting those users mentioned above for OS4)
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huh? Sorry, what am i changing?
and
Im confused by your reply as you said i was trying to change little things? As if i was spready FUD.
Sorry Rodney, think your getting confused here. I think Herewegoagain was just saying the screenshots are simply showing that you can change lots of different things in the AOS4.0 GUI.
Pteppic
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Sorry Rodney, think your getting confused here. I think Herewegoagain was just saying the screenshots are simply showing that you can change lots of different things in the AOS4.0 GUI.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, you are correct Pteppic. Sorry Rodney. I should have been more clear on what I was talking about. I was indeed talking about being able to change every little thing about the OS4 GUI.