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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Miffo on September 30, 2003, 09:36:01 PM
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Hello there everyone, I am new here to this site! :-)
This site looks very cool, many interesting discussion going on everywhere! :-)
I had an A500+ a long time ago. I mostly played games on it, and I remember that time with joy and pleasure. I now saw the Amiga One Lite advertized on many sites, and that is why I am here!
What do you think of the Amiga One Lite? I have a Via MiniIITX motherboard allready, but I think that a powerful and fanless PPC CPU will be much nicer. The fan on the Via is not big, but the small ones is usually the nosiest, don't you agree?
I understand that there will be some Linux OS'es for it? I like Gentoo very much, I like the fact that everything is compiled just for your system. Optimal! :-)
What Linux will the Amiga One Lite have? When can I buy it? And what will it cost?
I hope I am not asking to many questions, but I really want to get some answeres (which is not easy)! ;-)
Thank you and this seems like a good place! :-D
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I already welcomed you on another thread, but I'll do it again, "Welcome".
Unfortunately much has happened in the world of the Amiga, but *I* personally thing the A1 LITE will be a cool machine. OS4 has been delayed, and delayed and delayed, but I suppose it will be out next year.
Perhaps someone else can give you the lowdown on all the bickering and in-fighting that is the world of Amiga .... ;-)
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Oh, I forgot AROS, an Amiga OS that runs on PPC, x86 machines etc. see www.aros.orgwww.aros.org (http://www.aros.org)
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Thank you! And thank you again! :-D
I too thinks the Amiga One Lite is cool, the small size makes it possible to make lots of things with it. I am thinking about using it for a server, that´s why I wonder about the Linux. I have seen pictures of it on many Internet sites, and it looks really nice! :-)
Do you know anything about that? And when it will be for sale?
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Cyberus wrote:
Oh, I forgot AROS, an Amiga OS that runs on PPC, x86 machines etc. see www.aros.orgwww.aros.org (http://www.aros.org)
Wow that looks really nice! I looked at the screenshots! Alfa transparent windows and other cool things. Will this be available for the Amiga One Lite too? Cool! :-D
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Hi Miffo.
Welcome to Amiga.org
As I understand it, the Amiga One Lite is presently at the prototype stage, so not much information has been released.
If everything goes well, it should be (http://amiga.org/images/subject/icon6.gif) :-D
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redfox
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And by the way, "Miffo" (my nick name) means a little like "Freak" in swedish. I think it's slang. But it suits me, that's for sure, hehe!! :-D :-D :-D
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redfox wrote:
Hi Miffo.
Welcome to Amiga.org
As I understand it, the Amiga One Lite is presently at the prototype stage, so not much information has been released.
If everything goes well, it should be (http://amiga.org/images/subject/icon6.gif)
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redfox
Oh. :-(
I thought it was allmost finished or at least more than only prototype! I have seen pictures of it and specifications on many Internet sites! Ah well, "the one who waits for something good, can not wait too long!" as we say here in sweden! :-) It will be cool when it comes!
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Welcome to the party.
Practically the whole community is waiting for something right now, be it OS4, the AmigaOneLite, the PegasosII, or a new AROS release.
Who knows when it will happen, but once all the above hits the market, there will be much fun to be had. :-)
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Welcome Miffo!
Cheers for your registration! :pint:
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Hello Miffo! I hope you enjoy your stay:-)
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Miffo wrote:
And by the way, "Miffo" (my nick name) means a little like "Freak" in swedish. I think it's slang. But it suits me, that's for sure, hehe!! :-D :-D :-D
I must say you choose a suitable avatar, hehe! :-D :roflmao:
Anyway, welcome! :-)
As you say, this is a great place! Here you can debate anything and everything, but some advice might be given:
1) Do not provoke
2) Do not let yourself be provoked
Freedom is a repsonsibility, and if you can handle that, then this will be a great place for you, as it is for all the rest of us! :-)
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@Miffo
You had to join in the middle of the action, didn't you? The Amiga market is looking quite positive, with not only name-branded hardware such as the AmigaOne, but alternatives such as the Pegasos or even x86-based solutions like AROS and UAE. So sit back, check them all out, and make up your own mind.
URL's for them all:
http://www.pegasosppc.com -- Pegasos
http://www.aros.org -- AROS
http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/ -- AmigaONE
http://www.gsu.edu/~artwgg/atmos.htm -- UAE
We'll still be here after you've checked them out.
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You forgot PalmPilots!
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Miffo wrote:
What do you think of the Amiga One Lite? I have a Via MiniIITX motherboard allready, but I think that a powerful and fanless PPC CPU will be much nicer. The fan on the Via is not big, but the small ones is usually the nosiest, don't you agree?
Not to rain on the parade, but as far as I can tell, the G3s we've been using (G3SE, G3XE) have required fans. Last I checked the power (consumption/dissipation) numbers, they were about on par with what Via claims on the latest C3s or Nehemiahs or whatever they are.
That said, a well-designed case with one good fan (power supply or auxilliary) is supposed to be enough to cool a Via, so it should be enough to cool a PowerPC with an equivalent 'passive' heatsink.
As you move down below 600MHz, the PowerPCs get cooler, to the point where they can doubtless run without a heatsink, but then you start losing the performance margin. (I expect a 600MHz G3 beats a GHz Nehemiah on raw 'grunt,' but so might a 500MHz P-III.)
We still don't know what CPU Eyetech will bundle with the Lite, but I'm guessing they'll stick with the same range available for the XE, possibly adding a 'budget' option around/below 400MHz that runs cool to the touch. Since you should be able to get the same out of a 600 with a simple underclock, and the G3s aren't all that expensive to begin with (think Duron prices for the chips themselves?), that doesn't seem particularly necessary; get a 600 or better, clock it down for the box in your entertainment center if you have to, then you're free to slap a fan on it and know it'll work at 600 when it starts feeling obsolete. :-D
I understand that there will be some Linux OS'es for it? I like Gentoo very much, I like the fact that everything is compiled just for your system. Optimal! :-)
I tried to tally this up the other day... Little help, anyone? Ole-Egil? :huh:
As far as I can tell, Debian is the current choice. YellowDog and SuSE's last PowerPC release (7.2?) are also supposed to run/have been ported. Gentoo seems very likely to support the hardware (Genesi claims them a supported distro?), but as I understood it, they barely have things on the Mac ironed out?
What really matters:
1. Has the distro been built for, or does it support building for PowerPC at all?
2. Does it play well with the AmigaOne/Articia-supporting kernel trees?
3. How much will it hurt to get it copied/installed to your disk so you can find out? (Did anyone make/distribute an install disk that *uses* one of those kernel trees? Do they still?)
Anyone want to remind me what Eyetech's bundling with the boards these days? Just noticed/remembered Genesi claims Mandrake and Gentoo on Pegasos... Forgot about the Mandrake release, that's nice and 'fresh,' so I imagine it includes a kernel and installer that works fully on the OpenFirmware machines at least... Maybe I'm totally wrong about Gentoo's present state?
If someone could provide a list of distros categorized by [ bundled | available-shrinkwrap-and-works-out-of-box | available-as-private-or-unmerged-tree | works-out-of-shrinkwrap-but-needs-unmerged-installer ], that'd be great. That goes for either hardware.
What Linux will the Amiga One Lite have? When can I buy it? And what will it cost?
1. Tried to answer that above. ;)
2. Not before next year?
3. We don't know! (Larger AmigaOnes are on sale now; look at the list of dealers (http://eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/dealers.php), compare some prices, and cross your fingers that the Lite comes out lower. :-) )
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Välkommen! :-D
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Miffo wrote:
Hello there everyone, I am new here to this site! :-)
Welcome!
What do you think of the Amiga One Lite?
I think that if it comes out with the quoted specs (PPC, Radeon graphics, firewire, gigabit ethernet etc.) it will be a fantastic board.
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Hi i'm new aswell.
As this is the welcome thread i thought i might aswell post here.
I used to have an amiga for games at one time. I read in Micromart that a new Amiga is coming out so i googled my way here.
I have a lot of catching up to do.
laterz!
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Welcome CannonFodder
Can this mean that people are actually going to be returning to the Amiga when the AmigaOne LITE is released?
Yes I know, detractors will say that it's only a prototype, that the Pegasos is better, blah blah, negativity.
But I thought for a moment that a miniature resurrection may be about to take place....
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Miffo wrote:
Hello there everyone, I am new here to this site! :-)
Welcome to Amiga.org !! Enjoy your stay! :-)
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Miffo wrote:
Hello there everyone, I am new here to this site! :-)
This site looks very cool, many interesting discussion going on everywhere! :-)
I had an A500+ a long time ago. I mostly played games on it, and I remember that time with joy and pleasure. I now saw the Amiga One Lite advertized on many sites, and that is why I am here!
What do you think of the Amiga One Lite? I have a Via MiniIITX motherboard allready, but I think that a powerful and fanless PPC CPU will be much nicer. The fan on the Via is not big, but the small ones is usually the nosiest, don't you agree?
I understand that there will be some Linux OS'es for it? I like Gentoo very much, I like the fact that everything is compiled just for your system. Optimal! :-)
What Linux will the Amiga One Lite have? When can I buy it? And what will it cost?
I hope I am not asking to many questions, but I really want to get some answeres (which is not easy)! ;-)
Thank you and this seems like a good place! :-D
I run AROS on my Via Mini-ITX... it runs like a dream :-)
The board only cost £60, so I was quite happy to put the machine together as a dedicated AROS box.