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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: System on November 20, 2002, 02:09:04 AM
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From the Amiga.com Web site, dated 19 November 2002 -- "With the AmigaOne now shipping and AmigaOS4.0 in its final stages of development and testing, the time has come to begin letting the rest of the world know the good news, that the Amiga is alive, well and ready to let the World have fun with computing again."
Read the full article here (http://www.amiga.com/corporate/111902-exposure.shtml)
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I just hope the AmigaOne distribution will be easy and BIG everywhere in the world. Oversea shipping is REALLY expensive. As long as it gets to the US cheap, the rest of the distribution should flow.
I might even be interested to sell Amigas again ;)
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The people I have spoken to all have good memories of the Amiga as a quality product. But their view is that PCs and Macs have overtaken and left it behind. They are rather skeptical of any Amiga come back.
People now assume that the Microsoft way is the only way. People ask if the Mac is as easy to use as Windows!
Most people will see Amiga as a copy of the PC. I think it would be foolish to keep talking about the Amiga history. I think we should concentrate on what the Amiga can do for the future of computing.
There are a lot of 'gaps' that have been left or ignored by Microsoft and Apple. Amiga Inc/Hyperion should identify these and offer a solution. One has to be a wider use of Datatypes. Another is the use of Arexx/Sheep.
Definately exciting times.
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One possible avenue for reaching out to former Amiga Users would be for Amiga User Groups, who HAVE A1s, to invite members from OTHER Groups such as Mac and Linux User Groups to attend Club Gatherings where A1s could be demonstrated.
° «note: once AmigaOS 4.0 has been installed, Club Demos could have invited professionals such as IT Teachers from Tech Colleges in attendance. I have often heard people such as these voice dissatisfaction with the hassles of TRYING to use Windows systems. It would be important to have Power apps such as ImageFX, Photogenics, and Content-creation Tools for these demonstrations.
NB- A real Killer App is really required NOW!
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Humm, the devil is in the details:-)
This is good news thought. I hope as it has been already said, that there will be a killer app or apps. The hardware and OS is coming, next . . .
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w00t!! w00t!! w00t!!
YEAH BABY YEAH
DOES THIS MAKE YOU HORNY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time for a toast to the bright future!
:pint:
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"his will compromise a show roughly every quarter, one for Europe, one for the US and Canada, one for the UK and one for the Antipodes (Australia, New Zealand and Asia)."
Ehum, so two shows in Europe then, not one.
/Björn
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Well, we'll have to see what actually comes of this, but on the face of it YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know I've been down on AInc a bit lately, and this isn't the OS5 on x86 I've been waiting for. But hey, I'm still an Amigan, ex-patriate or no, and to even hear talk from the man in charge about going prime-time like this, dammit, that's just plain NEAT! :-D You go, boys! Bring back that damn glory!!!!
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What Really is a killer app? One that runs faster, jumps higher, is easier to use? Piece of cake. Anything running on an AmigaOne w/OS4 will be killer. The best game in the world?? Get crackin'! I hear that many of the world's best gamesmiths, who've cut their teeth on Amigas, would love to do it again, for old times sake. The future looks rosy. If enough machines get sold, the sky is the limit.
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[color=33CC00]YYYEEEESSS!!!!!![/color][/b]
[color=3300FF]THERE WILL BE AN AMIGA IN MY EXTRA-LARGE STOCKING!!! WOOHOO!![/color][/b]
:-D :-D :-D
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This "rockar fett" as we say in Sweden!
:-o
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Interesting way of announcing that "sorry we will not be in Aachen".
They seem to be letting the whole show be run by thendic/bplan...
If Ai misses the Cebit, then it's bye bye again.
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I meant: If AI (+Hyperion+Eyetech) desides not to go to Aachen (like they seem to have desided) and then misses also the Cebit event, then it's bye bye.
(the community is lost etc...)
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A show in New Zealand eh? I would definately attend that.. and drag my ex-amiga friend with me. :)
It says the AmigaOnes are finally shipping. Does that mean they're in transit to people and dealers right now? If so, cool. :)
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HAHAHHAHHA..........YEEEEEEES........after all these years trying to tell everybody that Amiga will survive.........and soon deliver a great new machine......damn iv'e been waiting for soooooo long..........TIME TO PARTY!! :-P
Yipiii.........can't wait to see peoples faces, when they have to admit that I were right all the time........hehe :-D
Can't wait to see their faces when I show them the new AmigaOne and the worlds fastest OS.....sigh!
LONG LIVE THE AMIGA!!!
AMIGA RULES!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
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YEAH!!!
Amiga IS BACK (Maybe) :crazy:
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Ksk wrote
Interesting way of announcing that "sorry we will not be in Aachen".
They seem to be letting the whole show be run by thendic/bplan...
If Ai misses the Cebit, then it's bye bye again.
The Aachen show is not the same as Cebit and what part of this did you not understand.
The first of these shows will be the official launch of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4.0, to occur at the CeBit show in Germany in March
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Oh ####... I guess we'd better make some killer apps by March :-o :-D
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@fjudde
Sure the Cebit is bigger than the Aachen-show, but is it more
important for potential A1-costumers ? I have my doubts.
Amigians from germany will go to Aachen, because it is the only
Amiga-related show in Germany this year.
Ex-Amigians interested in "retro" will go to Aachen.
M$/x86-haters will go to Aachen as they don't care about names.
All these people will the see a working Amiga-like system.
The Cebit is:
5 months away.
Very expensive, and I doubt that AInc has enough money for their
own stand.
They might get a small stand on the M$ one, but I doubt the will
be allowed to show anything else than their DE-stuff.
The typical Cebit-audience is not interested in something that
is just an odd geek-computer with next to no new SW.
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@Balti
My posting was aiming at the fact that Ksk's posting could be interpreted as cebit and Aachen was the same. And that Ainc mabe was not going to attend Cebit, even though they had clearly stated so.
I have no doubts that a small show can be more important than a huge show like Cebit. Ainc would probably drown. But if they could pull some publicity stunt, maybe show some awsome apps that the community and/or sw companys made things could turn in our fawor. :-)
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"Sure the Cebit is bigger than the Aachen-show, but is it more important for potential A1-costumers ? I have my doubts."
The Cebit IS more important than the Aachen show. Everyone who potentially would attend the Aachen show, would know almost everything about the product. With the limited timeframe I doubt that amiga would have anything new to show. You will have your basic aOne booting into dos, and thats it.
The CeBit however: 99% of the attendees just know amiga by reputation. Tons of journalists and more... And you can bet that even the smallest booth gets ####loads of attention when they announce that they have a new OS and hardware to run it on.
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@Desler
Ah I see you have never been to a CeBit...
There will be thousand of booths, so everybody is forced to think
on what he wants to see before he goes.
There will be thousand of new products, and all the papers will be
cramped with it. No space for the sidenote of an 80's computer
reapearing.
The market for A1/OS4 are existing users, and those who left in
the last 5 years, and those will be easier to target in Aachen.
But I think your are right:
AInc/Hyperion have nothing to show by Aachen, and they know it.
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The market for A1/OS4 are existing users, and those who left in
the last 5 years, and those will be easier to target in Aachen.
Existing users ~ 2000
Former Amiga users ~ 5 million
+ all the users tired of Windows and/or looking for an alternative which should be an amount larger than the mac and linux communities put together in size.
My point with these numbers (which are no kind of facts but rather educated guessing) is that the exisiting Amiga community and those going to retrocomputing shows is only a small fraction of the targeted market segment of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4. Like the announcement said; by March they are going from survival mode to growth mode. Focusing your resources on a global marketing campaign and attendance at the really big shows like CeBit makes perfect sense if these are your intentions.
But I think your are right:
AInc/Hyperion have nothing to show by Aachen, and they know it.
Oh but surely they do. It's just that they have other products aiming at a completely different market ready for launch by then. So, rather than making PR for unfinished products they focus on marketing those products ready for launch first. It's simply a matter of priority.
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Ben talked about releasing some new screenshots quite soon? ;-)
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Hi
My suggestion: Get an office space with "easy to find" address first!
People will not believe an "Officeless" company! :-)
For Asia, I suggest CeBit Asia in Shanghai. If 1 in 100 thousand people in China buy Amiga products, the number of Amiga customer will reach 10 thousand!
CeBit Asia (http://www.cebit-asia.com/information_e.htm)
In several Asian countries, it is extremely difficult to obtain visa for Australia.
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No space for the sidenote of an 80's computer reappearing
Don't be so sure.....
AInc/Hyperion have nothing to show by Aachen, and they know it.
Fair enough. I'd be more worried if they *didn't* know it.
:lol:
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We have all seen how Amiga Inc can make very little look like the gift from the Gods. So I have confidence that they can make their presence felt at CeBit.
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>Ehum, so two shows in Europe then, not one.
Nope just one, UK isn't Europe. That's an isolated island empire ;-).
Okay that was a bit too easy.
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Nope just one, UK isn't Europe. That's an isolated island empire
UK is the 51st state and Blair is Bush's little puppet.
So 2 shows in the US then.
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> UK is the 51st state
As observed by 'The The' many moons ago.... :-)
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This is good for Amiga INC, but this is not what I've been waiting for. Sorry, but AmigaONE is no new Amiga for me. Its a PC clone.. PC hardware with PPC in it.
I just hope that the ColdFire project will change this, but when.. That uncertain.
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Yeah, let's wait for Coldfire, the microwave, mobile and embedded devices chip. That's certainly Amigaish.
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I think this is one of the best Updates ever on AInc:s
homepage. And by that I don't refer to the news (which
by all means IS very good and a good sign for the
future), but to the quality of the update itself. For once,
it's toned down and reasonably realistic. Don't know if I
have seen the words "limitied resources" ever before on
the corporate page. I wonder if this text is either that of a
severely sedated Bill mcEwen, or by the more toned-down
Fleecy/Alan-pair all together, sneaking it past editing from
the US office ;-)
At any rate, this is a much more serious (and sincere)
text than most of the pure-PR updates previously posted
on amiga.com. Let's hope they can pull this off this time.
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SlimJim (now back from my mountain in Chile...)
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Great news.
The Amiga doesn't NEED a killer app (although one would be nice), what it DOES need is a bunch of standard apps like Word processors, graphics, sound, CD burning software, DVD software, etc. Thanks to it's legacy it still has some decent stuff available but it needs NEW apps that run natively under OS4 in PPC.
Time to contact old developers and convince them to re-release their older apps in PPC format for OS4.
- Mike
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We have to appeal to those who, for whatever reason left the Amiga months and years ago but who still retain a fondness for their old platform
My opinion here is that ex-Amigans will wait and see what the current Amigans have to say about these new machines before putting money down for their own machines. Benchmarks will reveal all.
If the machine is worthwhile for them, they'll come back. Otherwise they'll stay away.
Of course, then there are the Jay Miner wannabes who claim the A1 is not a true Amiga.
AmiGod
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UK is the 51st state and Blair is Bush's little puppet.
Nonono, Canada is the 51st state (they're in denial about it though until Quebec secedes) and UK is a territorial possession along the lines of Puerto Rico or Guam. ;-)
That should stir up some action. :lol:
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> UK is the 51st state As observed by 'The The' many moons ago...
?????? And I thought that were "New Model Army" :-o
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[nelson]
Ha ha!
[/nelson]
PS: I told you so
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Finnallyyy. It even sounds like the old times, when there was Amiga in mainstream shows!!!!! :-D
Guess I'll have to buy my A1 then :-D 8-)
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@strobe
What did you tell us so ?
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I had a dream last night. There was this massive train and it was carrying heaps of wagons, all had boing balls on them. I opened one up as it arrived in a freight station and it was full of boxes labeled "AMI-G4-XE". Then I went home in my dream and turned on the telly to see Bill speaking about amiga on a tech show. Then I woke up with a big smile on my face.
Dreams do come true..................
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This is good for Amiga INC, but this is not what I've been waiting for. Sorry, but AmigaONE is no new Amiga for me. Its a PC clone.. PC hardware with PPC in it.
I just hope that the ColdFire project will change this, but when.. That uncertain.
Why focus on the old 68k derive HW part? Amiga was not the only 68k box in the market btw.
AInc's A1 approach was no different to Mac’s transition to PPC platform. I don’t see this as a problem.
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This is good for Amiga INC, but this is not what I've been waiting for. Sorry, but AmigaONE is no new Amiga for me. Its a PC clone.. PC hardware with PPC in it.
I just hope that the ColdFire project will change this, but when.. That uncertain.
The Cold Fire project isnt that much different from the AmigaOne. From what i can tell, its basicaly going to be a Coldfire CPU on a motherboard, and possibly a custone chip set, either Amiga or whatever else. But PCI slots and AGP will be avaliable (this is on the full system) so its pretty much going to be a Generic Coldfire board.
But then, you wont be able to run OS4 on it. Thats why ever one is getting the hardware. Hardware is better left generic (unless your in a specialist field) for home users. The OS is what you interface with, its what you use constantly.
But then again, if your more into hardware, then i guess thats your thing. I know hardware guys who dont care much more OSes and then most OS guys dont care much for hardware (like myself)...
So... whatever :)
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@Rodney
uuh, I had to edit your post.. You quoted the entire A-Org page;-)
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@Simplex
Nonono! Sweden is the 51st state. Hell, wer're even more americanized than the americans... :-)
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Hoya!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :-D
The God Returns!!! :-) :-) :-)
Funnily enough, I can't see any Amiga nay-sayer post there hehehe...
Be ULTRA funky!!!
M A D
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I've made a translation to Spanish that can be found in CUAZ (http://cuaz.sourceforge.net)