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Title: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: norm on November 07, 2002, 01:11:23 PM
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Ouch! Microsoft got a kick in the teeth today from one of its few Smartphone allies. Sendo, the UK handset maker, today announced that it's stopping all development on the Windows for Smartphone 2002 platform. It is instead signing a licence for Series 60, the Nokia smartphone platform erected upon the Symbian OS.

Read more...The Register (http://http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/27986.html/)

I wonder what Amiga Inc think of this. Have they got a version of AA that runs on Symbian? If not, I think they'd better because no big mobile manufacturer is touching MS Smartphone 2002 AKA 'Stinker'.
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: whabang on November 07, 2002, 01:27:42 PM
Another one bites the dust! :-(
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Dagon on November 07, 2002, 01:29:33 PM
Someone said on the previous nokia news item that AmigaDE runs on SymbianOS

Nokia will have SymbianOs? and what happens on AmigaDE that has a allied with Microsoft? will the games for the AmigaDE+microsoft run also on other AmigaDE enabled devices?

I`m very glad that we joined with the MS because its a big deal but I hope it doesn`t turn from Amiga-Anywhere to Amiga-OnlyM$
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: odin on November 07, 2002, 01:34:53 PM
LOL  :-D.

I can imagine all Amiga users will react very schizophrenic. One half of ego: 'Great, less market share for the evil M$!', other half: 'Crap, less marketshare for A Inc!'.

 :roflmao:
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: newbee on November 07, 2002, 01:47:37 PM
Oh my god!!!!

It looks like "pre installed AA" is going to have as long and as painful a birth as the original Amiga (perhaps thats somehow apropriate).

I hope Amiga.inc can salvage this deal as they are running out of people to license DE.

It's a pitty as I personaly think that the DE platform has so much potential.

Here's hoping that it is just a catapillar in it's chrysalis and it will finaly make it out as a butterfly (at the moment I would be happy with a moth).

Regards
Darren
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: newbee on November 07, 2002, 01:55:37 PM
Hmm...

Looks like Nokia can exert the same influence over mobile phone "OEM's" as Microsoft can over the X86 desktop.

I wonder if Microsoft will persue the "monopoly" ace card against Nokia ???

What the hell... Stranger things have happened.

Regards
Darren
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Crispy_Beef on November 07, 2002, 02:22:48 PM
Thing is Amiga aren't locked into M$ in any way, they are just a partner as was nokia until they canned the STB thing they had.  I think AA/DE will run on nokia devices anyway (as well as many others).

M$ is a marketing content for their stuff only, and that content happens to be DE stuff.  I'm sure if a further deal was struck with Nokia, then they would market DE software too.  As the more content a platform has availalbe the more appealing it becomes.
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: System on November 07, 2002, 02:33:49 PM
Wow!  Another Amiga "partner" who dumps them shortly after the announcement?  I know I'm shocked.
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Tomas on November 07, 2002, 03:20:25 PM
I guess this is the final stake in heart for AA.....

DAMN!! sigh  :-x  :-x  :boohoo:  :cry:
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Tomas on November 07, 2002, 03:24:35 PM
i really feel sorry for AmigaINC now......
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: System on November 07, 2002, 04:58:22 PM
All,

This is the same partnership garbage Amiga Inc. has been spouting since Sharp.  Microsoft products will run DE.  Microsoft does not object to this.  Hence, Microsoft is a partner.

The Sharp Zarus was the same deal.  Please point me to an official announcement on Amiga Inc's site or Microsoft's site that states that the phones will come with Amiga products installed on them or even with an Amiga package.  You can purchase one separately, which is what you already have now.

It seems as though, in typical Amiga Inc. fashion, they have throne the community some vague info that the community jumps on as GREAT news.  In reality Amiga Inc. is no better off today than they were a month ago.

Later,
Ocriss
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: DanDude on November 07, 2002, 05:01:13 PM
[color=FF0000]Evil Microsoft...[/color]  :python:
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Oli_hd on November 07, 2002, 05:05:31 PM
Hi,

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Nokia will have SymbianOs?


Yep, My Nokia 9210 runs SymbianOS, As does the 9290 I belive..
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: z5 on November 07, 2002, 06:36:38 PM
This was even faster than any other deal Amiga Inc made...just amazing...

Oh well, i think it's time Amiga Inc abandon their 'write once, run nowhere' idea together with their PDA idea, which was total crap in the first place. Let's face it, their product was announced to run everywhere, and it actually runs nowhere.

Do the decent thing AInc. Either concentrate on OS4 or put the Amiga to rest for ever. There is no way in the world you can compete with the big boys.  :-x so don't drag the name of THE BEST COMPUTER EVER in the mud...
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: ruben on November 07, 2002, 07:15:46 PM
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Oh well, i think it's time Amiga Inc abandon their 'write once, run nowhere' idea together with their PDA idea, which was total crap in the first place. Let's face it, their product was announced to run everywhere, and it actually runs nowhere


Like so many people here, you don't have a clue what Amiga's plan is but you still have to comment against something just because you don't like it.

The only thing that has happened here is one manufacturer that was to use Smartphone has (for some unknown reason, it seems) given up for something else (that for sure the AACE can be made to run on without much effort anyway).

But this is Microsoft we're talking about. They settle with nothing less than to dominate the markets they enter, and Amiga still has a partnership with them not only for Smartphone but for PocketPC as well. This is the strongest base you can expect for content delivery. Sendo's decision becomes quite irrelevant and it's their loss actually.
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: redfox on November 07, 2002, 07:29:16 PM
Why does this not surprise me?

So is this a problem with "MS smartphone" or does this have something to do with Amiga Inc. supplying AmigaAnywhere/content?

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redfox
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: z5 on November 07, 2002, 07:40:08 PM
@Ruben:

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Like so many people here, you don't have a clue what Amiga's plan is but you still have to comment against something just because you don't like it.


Sure i haven't got a clue. And quite frankly, i don't want to. Amiga has had plans for 3 years now. So the interest in it has somewhat dissapeared, especially since we haven't seen anything yet from these Big plans always going on behind the scenes.

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But this is Microsoft we're talking about. They settle with nothing less than to dominate the markets they enter, and Amiga still has a partnership with them not only for Smartphone but for PocketPC as well. This is the strongest base you can expect for content delivery. Sendo's decision becomes quite irrelevant and it's their loss actually.


So Sendo is suddenly not interesting anymore. Well, it was a couple of days ago...

Oh and respect to Sendo. I mean, i have to endure sitting behind a wonderful Microsoft driven pc each day. So please spare me the thought of a MS driven phone.

The first thing MS would have to program into their smartphone would be a voice saying: "The line has been disconnected because the software on your phone crashed. Please reboot and try again".
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on November 07, 2002, 08:03:55 PM
First Sharp, then Nokia, then Sendo...It looks like everyone Amiga has a partnership with trashes their entire product line!   And now they have a partnership with Microsoft...........

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Tomas on November 07, 2002, 09:58:45 PM
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So is this a problem with "MS smartphone" or does this have something to do with Amiga Inc. supplying AmigaAnywhere/content?


From what i read on slashdot, the reason for dishing ms, is that sendo didnt get access to source code.

Sendo Can't Get Microsoft Source; Ditches Windows
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/11/07/1546220.shtml?tid=100
Title: Re: Sendo junks MS smartphone, joins Nokia camp
Post by: Rodney on November 07, 2002, 11:37:19 PM
Dotn forget, this was not the only smartphone to be released, i believe Orange also have some nice MS smartphones coming out. That means you'll be able to buy AmigaDE software to run on those...

Its only one manufactorer people. If Orange pull out, then you can start to worry!