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Title: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Hammer on October 17, 2002, 11:17:12 AM
More details on the IBM’s future PPC 970 CPU from ArsTechnica.

Click here for the article (http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/3q02/powerpc.html)


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Quoting from Arstechnica
Now for some architectural details:

L1 data cache: 32 KB
L1 instruction cache: 64 KB
L2 cache: 512K
Registers:
32 64-bit general purpose registers
32 64-bit floating-point registers
32 128-bit vector registers
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: whabang on October 17, 2002, 11:40:41 AM
dR00L!
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Orgin on October 17, 2002, 12:03:49 PM
If it was released this year or in first quarter of 2003 then Dr000L indeed. But well, it won't be...

Looks more like a perhelia product to me.

/Björn
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: whabang on October 17, 2002, 12:40:25 PM
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Looks more like a perhelia product to me.

Probably. :-(
Not that Parhelia is a bad product...  :-)
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: whabang on October 17, 2002, 12:41:53 PM
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then Dr000L indeed

Not Dr000L - It's spelled dR00L, y00 14m3R!  :-D
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Orgin on October 17, 2002, 12:57:14 PM
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Not that Parhelia is a bad product...


Indeed not. Just not very competitive in the surrounding market.

/Björn
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Orgin on October 17, 2002, 12:58:21 PM
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Not Dr000L - It's spelled dR00L, y00 14m3R!


Argh! Sorry!  ;o)

/Björn
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: whabang on October 17, 2002, 01:28:18 PM
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Indeed not. Just not very competitive in the surrounding market.

Unfortunately no, however, I'm still waiting for Matrox' big return...
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: olegil on October 17, 2002, 03:17:28 PM
Have any of you guys seen the Parhelia in action? I drooled. Of course, I'm in broadcasting. But still, it's the first time I've seen video out resembling Commodore 1985 picture quality from a PC  :-D
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Elektro on October 17, 2002, 04:04:40 PM
U have to admit for all the hype Parhelia was stirring it was a big dissapointment.
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: seer on October 17, 2002, 07:07:00 PM
Have any of you guys seen the Parhelia in action?

Use one right now.. Great 2D and 3D card.. Benchmarks mean nothing. Just hope that sometime programmers are going to use EMBM more..

To bad I'm going to buy a house, so the 3 flatscreens I wanted to buy are going to have to wait... :-(
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: seer on October 17, 2002, 07:09:27 PM
U have to admit for all the hype Parhelia was stirring it was a big dissapointment.

Nah, i't just a tad slower the a GeForce4/4400, and the 2D gfx are much better, DVD movies look pretty good here  ;-)

Offcourse the new ATI card kicks everybodies a$$, so for 3D gaming, take your pick.
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: olegil on October 17, 2002, 08:51:21 PM
Hype? Star Wars episode 2 was hyped to death. Parhelia was merely "publically mentioned" in comparison  :-P
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Hammer on October 17, 2002, 11:46:48 PM
Both Matrox* and nVidia have yet to release their true DirectX 9 Class GPU part.
*Note that Perhelia is not a true DirectX 9, it’s merely a spring board towards that goal.
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Hammer on October 17, 2002, 11:51:00 PM
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Offcourse the new ATI card kicks everybodies a$$, so for 3D gaming, take your pick.

For 3D Application performance, NV25 (Quadro 4 900XGL) still beats* R300 (Radon 9700).
Refer to http://www.xbitlabs.com/video/3dsmax5/

It’s interesting to note that the same NV25 chips (i.e. GF4 vs Q4GL) have different out comes due to minor driver and clock speed differences.
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Elektro on October 18, 2002, 12:22:46 AM
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Hype? Star Wars episode 2 was hyped to death. Parhelia was merely "publically mentioned" in comparison


Well no wonder it simply didn't perform good.
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Fot on October 18, 2002, 05:31:00 AM
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For 3D Application performance, NV25 (Quadro 4 900XGL) still beats* R300 (Radon 9700).


That's no surprise when running OpenGL software. The review was comparing how cards optimized for DirectX stack up against the OpenGL optimized Quadro 4 running OpenGL apps. ATi's equivalent to the Quadro 4 is the FireGL X1 and not the 9700.

However, the fact still remains that the R300 is one superfast DirectX 9 card with decent OpenGL performance. Until the NV30 is released, ATi's 9700 is the DirectX king.

But who cares about DirectX anyway... :-D
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Hammer on October 20, 2002, 11:04:16 AM
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That's no surprise when running OpenGL software. The review was comparing how cards optimized for DirectX stack up against the OpenGL optimized Quadro 4 running OpenGL apps.

Regardless of the other side issues involve, the fastest "solution" for a given area is the most important for the end user.
Title: Re: More details on IBM’s proposed PPC 970
Post by: Hammer on October 20, 2002, 12:07:14 PM
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Nah, i't just a tad slower the a GeForce4/4400

Nah, i't just a tad slower the a GeForce4 TI 4200.  ;-)

Refer to http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1645&p=7