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Title: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench clone
Post by: System on September 11, 2002, 09:32:36 AM
 :-)  This was posted over at ann:
"My latest AROS disk image contains a simple workbench clone desktop.  Download it and try it and enjoy it. The desktop is to provide a graphical way to navigate these early test releases of AROS, don't expect all the bells and whistles, they will be added later. Thank you all, Matt P. "

Matt Parsons AROS Page (http://www.ahsodit.com/aros/index.html)

Source: ann (http://www.ann.lu/)

Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: System on September 11, 2002, 09:44:08 AM
Been messing with it for a while now and I am impressed with what they have so far!  Needs work but it is a great start.
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: George on September 11, 2002, 10:54:39 AM
Yeah! Thank you so much Matt!
I was asking where I could grab a newer version in the thread about the latest update, and lo and behold.
I gotta try this tomorrow, thanks again  :-D
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: bloodline on September 11, 2002, 11:46:06 AM
Yes, it's actually quite fun to play with "workbench" again isn't it.

I hope to get the CD ROM ISO updated soon with the "workbench" so that the more adventerous of you can actually do something ion AROS.
Though I would really like to get some decent gfx drivers working first... :-D

P.S. Thanks to the chap reported about my disk images, I didn't have time to do it today.
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on September 11, 2002, 12:39:31 PM
Cool! I've just downloaded it. I'm actually quite excited - this is gonna be fun :-)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on September 11, 2002, 02:23:57 PM
Awwww... crap. I dont have any floppy disks....

First thing tommorow morning :-)
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: jdiffend on September 11, 2002, 04:11:26 PM
I just started looking through the sources and have been playing with the old iso and new floppy image.

All I'll say is it still needs a lot of work.
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: newbee on September 11, 2002, 04:35:13 PM
Way cool...

Good work team. ( I love it)...

Any chance of "porting" to a AmigaDE version ???

You just never know, It could become OS5 ;-)

Regards
Darren
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Rodney on September 11, 2002, 05:19:09 PM
The AmigaDE is a run time environment.

AROS is an Opearting System.

It would kinda be weird running AROS from the AmigaDE. I could see why may you might want to port workbench to the DE but the whole operating sytem?

Couldnt see the point
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Coder on September 11, 2002, 07:50:00 PM
Great! I will try it out as soon as possible.

Coder
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Hammer on September 11, 2002, 07:55:44 PM
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The AmigaDE is a run time environment.

Tao’s technology contains relatively fast virtual processor.  

Entire OS can be built on top of abstract processor layer.

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It would kinda be weird running AROS from the AmigaDE. I could see why may you might want to port workbench to the DE but the whole operating sytem?

Why not? It has a virtual processor.
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Orgin on September 11, 2002, 08:11:16 PM
Hammer said:

"Why not? It has a virtual processor."

No it does not hava a virtual processor. Everything runs natively and all VP binaries/tools are translated to native code before being run. There is no interpreting virtual CPU under DE/Elate.

When compiling something to VP it just means that the code is stored on media targeted for a thought out virtual processor. But there is no actual virtual processor processing that code when it is run. It is simply recompiled to native code, ie to the processor it is to be run on.

All info about this is publically available at TAO's homepage.

/Björn
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: xork on September 11, 2002, 08:26:23 PM
Cool, I'll download it as soon as I get home...
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: poktis on September 12, 2002, 03:31:21 AM
AROS, well, the true amigazed qnx :)
Great work. Previous release had strange results for me in terms of display, all it's ok now. I will print disks labels at work, good idea.
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: ido on September 12, 2002, 03:45:02 AM
works nice... needs more apps though.
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: bloodline on September 12, 2002, 05:41:36 AM
I would like to point out that the CD ROM version does contain quite a few apps and games, and as soon as I get it updated you can try it... As I said I'm really trying to think of a way to get better gfx support before the next CD ISO...
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Orgin on September 12, 2002, 05:45:08 AM
Something beyond 16 colors would be nice yes ;) Especially to run a few of the contributed demo effects. You can in linux hosted mode, but that soaks up quite a bit of performance. Just try to change some of the zune background settings and the wanderer will get some serious amounts of sirup in it.

/Björn
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: bloodline on September 12, 2002, 06:19:05 AM
I guess VESA2 (or maybe 3?) is the way to go in terms of GFX, that way we can get large colour depths and large screen resolutions and still support most (if not all) machines out there... but sadly that will not provide much in the way of gfx acceleration, IIRC..
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: seer on September 12, 2002, 06:48:48 AM
Well, even tho it far from complete at least it shows great progress... And it got a x86 native calculator (I guess), so at least its fast :)
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: whabang on September 12, 2002, 09:06:47 AM
Seems nice. I'll try it tomorrow...
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: Rodney on September 12, 2002, 06:02:12 PM
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Why not? It has a virtual processor.


Because thats like saying why not port AmigaOS or Windows or Linux to the DE. Its just not done.

It would make sence to however, port the DE to AROS! - Not that Amiga Inc would ever do that. But AROS to the DE? I cant see anyone porting a kernel and an operating system to run on top of a virtual one!!!
Title: Re: Matt P's latest AROS disk image with a workbench cl
Post by: falemagn on September 12, 2002, 11:01:01 PM
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t would make sence to however, port the DE to AROS! - Not that Amiga Inc would ever do that. But AROS to the DE? I cant see anyone porting a kernel and an operating system to run on top of a virtual one!!!


Well, AROS already can and does run on another OS, albeit not virtual. It would make sense to port AROS to Elate/AmigaDE, since it would let you run AmigaOS programs on any HW supported by Elate/AmigaDE, but there are technical issues that make the whole thing challenging, to say the least.
Title: Re: This is where things should be going
Post by: wonea on September 13, 2002, 08:48:40 AM
This is where things should be going, x86 is the only viable way to appeal to the masses.  PPC is dead (even though I have a new Mac Quicksilver), or will be soon.  Apple will be dumping PPC soon.  Evidence? Apple is maintaining a x86 port of Mac OS X.  Amiga Inc is simply trying to screw us for money.  With all these crap upgrades.  I mean upgrade to a new G3 processor.  No thank you.

Don't jump onto a broken bandwagon, Open Source is the future.  Its something you can't stop.  It will grow and grow...  Support AROS, like BeOS users are supporting OpenBEOS.