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Title: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: pixie on September 06, 2002, 04:54:38 AM
Amiga has released new screenshots (http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4AmiDock.php) from AmigaDock for AmigaOS 4 (http://os.amiga.com/os4/).

AmiDock is a completely redesigned version of OS3.9's AmiDock, with lots of improvements in terms of usability, loading-speed and optical feedback.

Included here (http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4AmiDock.php) are a few screenshots to give us a general idea of what to be expected from AmiDock...
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: CD32Freak on September 06, 2002, 05:11:08 AM
Thanks to the individual who created the cool new AmigaOS 4.0 design. I forgot your name, but you know who you are! :-D
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: JamesR on September 06, 2002, 07:10:15 AM
When will they lose that hideous gray interface? Can't they change it at least for screenshots? I swear, if OS 4 looks like that, I'm gonna be pissed.
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Dagon on September 06, 2002, 08:44:49 AM
It`s a same that the first screenshots of AmigaOS 4.0 weren`t like that. We lost an opportunity to show the world that we still exist. (I mean that we lost, because it had many visitors then and those pictures were for laughing, especially for those that had no idea what AmgiaOS is)

I hope that AmigaOS 4 will be ready soon. :-)
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: kostas on September 06, 2002, 09:51:03 AM
@ Dagon


I agree.



Kostas
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Zadoc on September 06, 2002, 10:15:09 AM
Well, AmigaOS/Workbench has never been pretty right out of the box.  Most of us have excused this either with the responsiveness of the OS, or the ability to apply custom hacks and patches.  Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't think that way, so an ugly GUI turns 'other' potential users away.

Perhaps it might be a good idea to get Mason working on the GUI department for OS4.  He is a great talent and could really make the GUI give a much needed boost.
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: CodeSmith on September 06, 2002, 12:35:28 PM
I really like the look of the new dock, and I'm itching to play with it, but... "dockies"?  I don't know about the rest of you, but that word just brings to mind small yellow feathery things waddling about going "quack!"  ;-)

How about "subdocks", or "minidocks", or even "paradocks"  :-o ?
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: spiffydinosaur on September 06, 2002, 03:25:01 PM
I was noticing some of the software icons that were there. The pagestream dude was there, as well as some other know titles. Does that mean we will have this software available? Of course with petunia but I'm talking about then new 64bit stuff?

I really like the dock idea hope we can apply our own texture to the borders etc.

Spiffy
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Argo on September 06, 2002, 03:26:23 PM
Dockers...hmm...
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Marky_D_Sahd on September 06, 2002, 05:10:25 PM
No, yer all wrong.  "Dockies" are like groupies, but for longshoremen. :-)
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on September 06, 2002, 07:12:05 PM
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How about "subdocks", or "minidocks", or even "paradocks"


The way I read it, "dockies" are much cooler than just
subdocks. "Dockies" are custom render hooks.

Hey, "Custom Render Hooks". That's catchy.

So for example you could have a dock item that is the
visualization window for your mp3 player, or have
a dock item that displays the contents of other virtual
screens, or shows you what is coming through your
TV card right now or ...

Anyway, that was my take on it. Check out the "lens"
item in the dock on the screenshots.
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Valan on September 06, 2002, 07:56:36 PM
The Dock sounds great on an uncluttered screen but how does it behave when an app or two is open. I mean what navigation tools does it have?
Will it get in the way like Apples Dock or Windows Start bar?

A lot of these ideas seem to forget that people actually use computers to work on.
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: CodeSmith on September 06, 2002, 09:28:57 PM
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How about "subdocks", or "minidocks", or even "paradocks"

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The way I read it, "dockies" are much cooler than just
subdocks. "Dockies" are custom render hooks.

Hey, "Custom Render Hooks". That's catchy.

So for example you could have a dock item that is the
visualization window for your mp3 player, or have
a dock item that displays the contents of other virtual
screens, or shows you what is coming through your
TV card right now or ...

Anyway, that was my take on it. Check out the "lens"
item in the dock on the screenshots.

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Well, it's not that - as I said, it all seems pretty cool (it seems to be the abstractions behind the Windows taskbar and active desktop rolled into a rather more elegant concept), it's the *name* that I have a problem with.  OK, maybe "problem" is too harsh a word, but Dockies just sounds, well... harmless  :-P
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: samface on September 06, 2002, 10:18:37 PM
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I was noticing some of the software icons that were there. The pagestream dude was there, as well as some other know titles. Does that mean we will have this software available? Of course with petunia but I'm talking about then new 64bit stuff?

Eeeehh... 64bit? I think you're refering to AmigaOS5 which is *way* into the future. This is AmigaOS4 which is basicly AmigaOS3.9 on PPC with a few new features and improved functionality. All classic Amiga software will work as long as it is retargable meaning that it doesn't depend on the classic Amiga hardware chipset.
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: System on September 06, 2002, 10:33:01 PM
Yes, I must admit that the first screenshots weren't so impressive. But the next ones, especially this one - http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4GUIPre.php?d=Screen3_P2.png - isn't so bad at all! Thank heavens they finally understood to do something about the ugliness of Reaction! It's now starting to look quite ok!  :-D The thing that bothers me the most in this screenshot (and in the others as well) is the window borders. Especially those close, size, minimize/maximize and scroll gadgets need a serious overhaul!
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Coder on September 06, 2002, 11:15:44 PM
@Dagon

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I mean that we lost, because it had many visitors then and those pictures were for laughing, especially for those that had no idea what AmgiaOS is


Your right there. People that do not know much about AmigaOS will regard those pictures (the first ones) as a good laugh. But also, these days people care more about a stable and good working OS then a OS that has a GUI that looks so nice but does run like crap.

Coder
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Quixote on September 06, 2002, 11:34:31 PM
:lol: If you could open two of them, you would have a "pair o' docks"...
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: chris on September 07, 2002, 01:04:09 AM
I think the latest ones show AmiDock running on a 3.9 machine... hence no pretty OS4.0 intuition.ibrary...

(edit: actually, forget that, I've just taken another look at the screenshots and that does in fact appear to be OS4 Intuition - just in a very plain configuration)

Chris
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: chris on September 07, 2002, 01:12:26 AM
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The Dock sounds great on an uncluttered screen but how does it behave when an app or two is open. I mean what navigation tools does it have?


Thast was one thing that put me off the original concept of AmiDock... but check out the minimizer dockie (http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4AmiDock.php?d=AmiDock3_sm.png)!

Chris
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: BouncingAyatollah on September 07, 2002, 06:00:30 AM
The new Amidock screenshots are also mentioned on the BeOS resource site Bebits (http://www.bebits.com/).
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Elektro on September 07, 2002, 06:04:19 AM
Where?
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: redfox on September 07, 2002, 06:15:07 AM
New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4 ...   :-D

As long as the system is stable, I can tinker with preferences, colours, backgrounds, etc.  to personalize the look of my Workbench.

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redfox
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Rodney on September 07, 2002, 01:42:34 PM
Ive never noticed that AmigaOS's Icons had that shade (background colour) behind the titles. Is this a configuration option? I've always liked how it wasnt there, i hope the ability to have them not displayed is kept.

Nice shots, i didnt mind the colours that much. Remeber also, that OS4 wont look its prettiest till round 4.2 when skinning should be finished :).
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: BouncingAyatollah on September 07, 2002, 02:59:42 PM
(Bebits mention)

Hmmmm... well there was a link earlier under "Headlines". It's definitely not there now! It was only a link to the OSNews article, but I thought it was nice to see a mention. Obviously someone else thought otherwise...
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Elektro on September 07, 2002, 03:09:04 PM
ok  :-)
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: System on September 07, 2002, 03:56:55 PM
Stefan Robl is an amazing programmer! Anyway, it sounds as if he's managing to incorporate some of the bells and whistles found in the Mac OS X Dock.
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Quixote on September 07, 2002, 07:45:53 PM
@Rodney:

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Ive never noticed that AmigaOS's Icons had that shade (background colour) behind the titles. Is this a configuration option? I've always liked how it wasnt there, i hope the ability to have them not displayed is kept.
;-) AmigaOS has had the ability to show a background behind the icon text since version 2.0.  You could select the color for it with the font preference tool....
Title: Re: New Screenshots from AmigaOS 4
Post by: Paradox on December 29, 2006, 01:54:29 AM
"Paradocks" lol I like it!

MorphOS :-D

ps.  if you have to use Windows XP and you like the MacOSX Dock,  download stardock its great!