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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Cyberus on September 29, 2003, 06:33:55 PM
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(I mean gay in the pejorative sense, I'm not trying to propagate homophobia)
Does anyone else think this, that its a really naff logo?
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I dis agree its a great logo . :-?
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"Amiga boing logo is GAY"
you sound like a 12 year old. most boys that age label anything as "gay" when they think it's suspect.
or silly in their view.
i think the boing ball is cute. :-D
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Keep your flamebate to yourself. A logo is a logo and as long as it's unique and ppl assosiate the logo with the company and/or product who cares what it looks like realy?
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The boingball might not be that good for a very wide market, as it doesn't really symbolise anything to them. But Amiga (at least the A1 and the OS) are currently aimed at the Amiga community, and then to Amigans who left. To them, it means:
*Continuity with the "Classic" Amiga
*Multimedia power (the boing demo)
Perhaps in a few years if Amiga are somehow in a position with more market share than Apple then they would consider rebranding - but they should definitely keep it untill then :-D
And BTW just saying that the logo is "gay" without any reasoning is hardly the best way to start a serious discussion :roll:
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well which is it, gay as in happy free of sprit or the other "you know" or is there another term forit? just wanna be certain how others view it.
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well okay, okay. I didn't realise you held the logo so close to your heart!
Perhaps without tone of voice and other indicators its difficult to convey when you mean something in a light-hearted way. Or is it only in my part of the world where such things as jocular expressions exist? Do YOU ever pull anyone's leg, or is life so depressingly serious in your world?
What I said wasn't intended as flamebait. I honestly thought someone might share that opinion.
The responses it generated would have me thinking I'd just insulted a religion, or a nation or something!! I think Amigamad was the only one who replied in a non-aggressive way...
OK, here's a rephrasing for you:
"In my humble opinion, I find the Amiga 'boing' logo far from aesthetically pleasing. Does anyone else in this forum share this opinion, or should I fall on my sword for thinking such disloyal thoughts?"
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I changed the topic of this thread ...
Oh and I think the logo is cool ...
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To further clarify what was meant as an innocent question...
I think in my mind the logo is kind of kitsch, perhaps not looking out of place in the hands of a clown. This is an opinion of mine. Perhaps one which I should not share. I am sorry if this might offend you in any way. Perhaps there are other issues - whether social, political, philosophical in which our opinions coincide.
Sharing a moment, a thought, an opinion is indeed a great feeling. We are fundamentally alone from the moment we enter this world. We try vainly to assuage this loneliness by social cohesion, based upon many different aspects of our lives. There are times when people do not share our opinions, and it can be frustrating, upsetting and annoying. However, these trivial opinions, of which I am a great fount, will matter for nothing when we are dead, and a pile of dumb ashes or a maggot eaten skeleton....
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i think to call a logo GAY is a stupid consept. :-o
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I think Amiga has one of the best logos of all.
Freebsd logo is kinda cool too
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I think the AO logo is the best of all .. :-D
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OK, OK
In view of the responses which it has prompted. I would like to wholeheartedly apologise for my use of the word 'gay' in a sense that caused offence.
May I explain why I used that word? Well, it has come into common usage amongst my friends and other people I have come into contact with here in the South East of England to mean 'naff'. This is a usage that no doubt originated from the homophobia which is seemingly everpresent amongst teenage schoolchildren. Nevertheless, it will oft be heard used in a pejoratitive sense, rather than the use coined around the 1980s to mean homosexual, or the earlier sense of happy, joyous, etc.
I would speculate that other people have heard the word used in this sense...
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cyberus, iam just funning a little bit no need to cut your self. makes no differance what people think about something of small importance. Please! back away from the sword. sorry for the leg pull... :-D
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I know mate, I know ;-)
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Burns: Another Friday is upon us! What will you be doing Smithers, something gay no doubt?
Smithers: (nervous) wh... what?
Burns: You know, light-hearted, fancy-free, mothers lock up your daughters, Smithers is out the town!
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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gay (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gay)
gay (g)
adj. gay·er, gay·est
Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
Showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.
Bright or lively, especially in color: a gay, sunny room.
Given to social pleasures.
Dissolute; licentious.
n.
A person whose sexual orientation is to persons of the same sex.
A man whose sexual orientation is to men: an alliance of gays and lesbians.
[Middle English gai, lighthearted, brightly colored, from Old French, possibly of Germanic origin.]
So, since it's being used as an adjective let's see...
Nope, Boing Ball has no sexual conotation or is a person.
Cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement, hmm, Depends on you perspective at the moment I guess.
Bright and lively in color, I can see that.
The rest of the definition doesn't seem to apply.
So, Yes, The Amiga Boing Ball could be considered gay.
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mikeymike wrote:
Burns: Another Friday is upon us! What will you be doing Smithers, something gay no doubt?
Smithers: (nervous) wh... what?
Burns: You know, light-hearted, fancy-free, mothers lock up your daughters, Smithers is out the town!
Ooohhh ha ha ha, absolutely sir! ;-)
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Does anyone else think this, that its a really naff logo?
I prefer the checkmark by far, (Never even SEEN a
boing logo on Commodore hardware, was it more a European thing?)
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Lo wrote:
Does anyone else think this, that its a really naff logo?
I prefer the checkmark by far, (Never even SEEN a
boing logo on Commodore hardware, was it more a European thing?)
I think the only Commodore connection the boing ball has is the old demonstration they had of a boing ball bouncing on a screen behind the Workbench.
Edit:
Oooh, except this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2755198127) promotional item on eBay that's been mentioned in another thread. Maybe there's more? But I'm still pretty sure it never appeared on any hardware.
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@Lo
I always liked the coloured tick too
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Looking at Cyberus' sig I gather he is from the UK. I don't know wbout the rest of the UK, but where I'm from, saying that something (inanimate object) looks or is gay is slang for well naff, rubbish, etc. I don't think it is supposed to be offensive in any way.
Anyway, the logo is crap and is a total nightmare to do anything with artistically or graphically. The MOS butterfly is similarly bad, but at least has more possibilites and also importantly has a recognisable outline.
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I was never partial to the boing ball. It just looks like something out of a children's book.
I really like the double checkmark logo. That was the embelem proudly printed on the front of my A1000, and I still love it.
In my opinion: Redesigned boing ball for the Amiga trademark, double checkmark for the OS, and the OS should be renamed to Workbench. "AmigaOS" just sounds so... cluttered.
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Looking at Cyberus' sig I gather he is from the UK. I don't know wbout the rest of the UK, but where I'm from, saying that something (inanimate object) looks or is gay is slang for well naff, rubbish, etc. I don't think it is supposed to be offensive in any way.
Ditto. Though the last time that was a phrase of choice I think I was in secondary school :-)
Re: the topic - I think the double tick logo is better, perhaps a colour variation on that.
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the best logos are the simple ones ...
Take alook at McDonalds or Nike ...
I think the boing ball is a simple logo also ... and therefor a good one ...
And i happen to like it .. better then the V logo ..
:-)
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Well, when you mention it, it kind of does look like a shiny disco ball, doesn't it? :-o Put on some Village People and let the balls shower us with light ;-)
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I always liked the coloured tick too
Me too. I always thought it was far better than the boing ball. That's why I did this wallpaper:
(http://www.ncscaug.us/1TG-AOS4Checkbluethumb.jpg)
Actually it's a whole set for the OS4 contest. I did it in 5 colors (added a 6th one after the submission).
If anyone likes them, it can be downloaded here. (http://os.amiga.com/community/index.php?cat=21&file=107&op=download) And the 6th color (grape) from here. (http://www.ncscaug.us/1TG-AOS4Checkgrape.zip) Sorry to go OT, but at least it's about the logo. :-D
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@Herewegoagain
Ohhh!! I love it!
I always liked the coloured check.
Gee that looks great mate. Did you send those in to AI ? I recon they would be really impressed!
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Kees wrote:
the best logos are the simple ones ...
Take alook at McDonalds or Nike ...
I think the boing ball is a simple logo also ... and therefor a good one ...
And i happen to like it .. better then the V logo ..
:-)
It's not quite simple enough as it has to be 3D to work properly. The McD and Nike logos can be recongnised by outline alone which makes them more flexible. Because the MOS logo is a butterfly (a recognisable shape) it has more potential.
For example....
(http://deadlock.netdork.net/mos2.gif)
I think amiga's best asset design-wise is the semi-serif word logo, it's unique and simple. The AmigaOne/Developer logo is also good, and I also like what the compitition winners done with the gear/cog/boingball concept, that was very nice.
There needs to be an injection of fresh design ideas.
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@ uncharted
I agree with your thoughts. But regarding the Amiga logo(s), they did come in many shapes during the years. Perhaps too many. Look at the top left corner of this very page for instance. And which logo you saw also depended on in which part of the world you lived in. Have you seen the "Amiga" text on the boxes of the A500's Redrumloa sold (http://amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=287)? Not much semi-serif there ...
(BTW, has that butterfly problems with gas? ;-))
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Colored check mark for me also. Never really cared much about the boingball symbol (or the original demo for that matter)
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Though I came up in the C= rainbow double check-mark days, I think if you could point to the single most recognizable image with which the Amiga is associated, it would be the Boing ball demo. I remember everyone and his aunt's uncle trotting out their own Boing ball demo to prove their machine was as powerful, ignoring the fact that all their machines could do was JUST the demo (and of the competition, only the Apple II GS could do it in stereo), while the Amiga could do two or three other things at the same time. The demo was even a part of the TV ads! The Boing ball is the best Amiga logo. If there's something AInc got right, it was sticking with it and using it in conjunction with the best thing to come out of the Escom era, the Amiga "red box" logo. If only the company or the outlook for real advancement in the Amiga world could look so good!
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Time for another poll?
1) check
2) boing
3) C=
4) other
5) new one needed? :griping:
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Cyberus wrote:
OK, OK
In view of the responses which it has prompted. I would like to wholeheartedly apologise for my use of the word 'gay' in a sense that caused offence..
well, i was not in the least offended. just so you know.
May I explain why I used that word? Well, it has come into common usage amongst my friends and other people I have come into contact with here in the South East of England to mean 'naff'. This is a usage that no doubt originated from the homophobia which is seemingly everpresent amongst teenage schoolchildren. Nevertheless, it will oft be heard used in a pejoratitive sense, rather than the use coined around the 1980s to mean homosexual, or the earlier sense of happy, joyous, etc.
I would speculate that other people have heard the word used in this sense...
this is EXACTLY what i was refering to in my previous post. i wasn't kidding when i said it sounded like it came from a 12 year old boy. my nephew says that sort of thing ALL the TIME.
I find it rather funny, actually.
although i have pointed out to him that he is using that term in a rather inexact manner.
don't feel bad for offering an opinion. i knew what you meant. i just disagree. and i like the Pegasos blue butterfly.
So there. i think these logo's are much nicer and friendlier than anything MicroBorg has ever come up with.
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The "Juggler" demo was much more impressive
and pervasive in NorthAmerica. I didn't
even see "boing" until many years after getting
an Amiga and being able to get it from the
internet. MorphOS Butterfly logo is more
appealing/recognizable to the average person
but past Amiga users can identify the
boing logo.
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@cecilia et al
I think I owe you guys an apology...I really should've phrased the original post a bit better, and then not over-reacted like a spoilt child when you criticised my use of language.
When you write you really do have to choose your words carefully, especially as you don't have any body language / tone of voice to help convey the meaning, plus what you write isn't easily forgotten!
But I suppose I got the message across in the end, just don't hire me as a diplomat :-)
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I've (and others) said it before, no matter what logo their use :-
AMIGA NEED A CONSISTENT LOGO AND FONT THROUGHOUT THEIR
PRODUCT RANGE AND BEYOND!
Look at Amiga's home-page, there are 4 types of boing ball, all slightly different.
It's sloppy.
People need to feel comfortable in a brand name.
Like Windows and Apple, though they have changed over the years,
people can identify with a product's image like XP and Mac OS X
Even Linux which is an open source / free system can have a standard image
in the form of the "Tux" penguin.
That's what Amiga at some point will have to do.
Standardise the Amiga look, if they are to be taken seriously.
Personally, I would choose the boing ball from the 'Amiga OS' section and the font
from the 'Amiga Anywhere' section.They are more modern.
(I'd get rid of the silly red dot above the ' i ', though.)
You can have different logo variations, just base them on the same boing ball image!
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SHADES wrote:
@Herewegoagain
Ohhh!! I love it!
I always liked the coloured check.
Gee that looks great mate. Did you send those in to AI ? I recon they would be really impressed!
Yeah, I did. I sent them into the contest submission. I did one other set but it is more conservative and uses the Amiga "text" with the red box dotting the i. I didn't use the boing or check on that one. It's kind of simple:
(http://www.ncscaug.us/1TG-AOS4Silverthumb.png)
Also done in 5 color sets, you can preview them all here, (http://www.ncscaug.us/About1TG-AOS4Collection.htm) and download them here. (http://os.amiga.com/community/index.php?cat=21&file=105&op=download)
I always liked the Amiga text with the red box "i". It's kinda unique, and as someone else said, it's almost more marketable than either of their more famous logo's (tick mark or boing ball).
I just always felt like the tick mark (check) gave the feeling of "approval" or a good product.
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Cyberus wrote:
@cecilia et al
I think I owe you guys an apology...I really should've phrased the original post a bit better, and then not over-reacted like a spoilt child when you criticised my use of language.
When you write you really do have to choose your words carefully, especially as you don't have any body language / tone of voice to help convey the meaning, plus what you write isn't easily forgotten!
I make the same mistakes. all is forgiven :-D
But I suppose I got the message across in the end, just don't hire me as a diplomat :-)
hey, i suck as a diplomat, too. we all have different talents.
i think we should be a little bit more tolerant of each other.
after all, it's only a message board. :-D
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@ Herewegoagain
I've seen your backdrops before, and I like them, but I really do hate that "AMIGA" font.
I believe Escom were responsible for that and they paid a huge amount of money for it's design if I remember rightly.
In my view, it's dated terribly.
And the red dot above the ' i ', I though was to link it to the Escom company which
is now irrelevant.
And it doesn't work in black and white.
However (like my post before) if they adapted this font throughout the product range then I'd buy it.
I'd still call it dull, but I'd buy it.
:-)
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May I explain why I used that word? Well, it has come into common usage amongst my friends and other people I have come into contact with here in the South East of England to mean 'naff'. This is a usage that no doubt originated from the homophobia which is seemingly everpresent amongst teenage schoolchildren. Nevertheless, it will oft be heard used in a pejoratitive sense, rather than the use coined around the 1980s to mean homosexual, or the earlier sense of happy, joyous, etc.
No worries, it's the same where I'm from
(western US). There are the "official" two
definitions of gay, and the emerging third is
indeed the use of the term 'gay" to mean lame,
silly, 'retarded' etc..I use it myself all of
the time (and before anyone says anything it's
NOT meant as an insult to those who are 'gay'
in the homosexual sense of the word).
To answer the topic, I've never really liked
the boing ball, I think it looks "kiddie"...
the checkmark is better IMO, but logos have
never been the amiga's strongpoint..
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I've seen your backdrops before, and I like them, but I really do hate that "AMIGA" font.
I believe Escom were responsible for that and they paid a huge amount of money for it's design if I remember rightly.
In my view, it's dated terribly.
I was trying to remember which "Amiga" was responsible for that particular text logo. The one I hated the most was the one that streched out like a bat's wings. That one was aweful.
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Yep. It is very boring. Time for something new.
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@Herewegoagain
The Silver like pictured above looks really proffesional.
Did you get a reply? or even a response? It's very good work!
Team Aros would probably be interested in your work too, although I think they just settled on a new logo design.
This type of packaging would SELL in stores. It does not look like a gimic which I'm afraid the last few releases of the OS 3.5 and 3.9 did.
They are not just my opinoins there, but everyone whom I showed the newer OSs to.
Had it been packaged like yours above, I am certain that the responses would have been completly different.
As for the Escom association, I'm pretty sure the name AMIGA came from another company too so I don't see the font or word to be a problem there heck all you need to do is look at old amiga video footage to realise that the boing ball demo was also pitched at exactly the same time and way running on ATARI. This was the supposed selling point for "powerful " h/w at that time, it showed the PCs off. but Boing Ball was not just an AMIGA demo at all.
VWD
Very Well Done.
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You forgot the paint smears for OS 3.0
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Squirrels?
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I dont give a rats ass about what the stupid logo looks like
[b}Moderated by Argo: Off-Topic[b}
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Moderated by Argo: Off-Topic
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The butterfly is a nice logo but hardly unique, I know at least half a dozen companies that have a butterfly logo. The boing ball definitely is unique. I'm probably biased as an 'old school' Ami user though, I would agree it doesn't mean much to non amigans. The checkmark btw is probably more 'gay' than the boing ball, specially with the rainbow colours in it. :-)
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Go checkmark!
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@Takemehomegrandma
United we stand?
Wouldn't "Zusammen Wir stehen" be more suitable, considering the number of native german speakers vs. the number of native english speakers? :-D
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Möglich gehen die Trolls, wenn sie nicht Deutsches sprechen können :-P
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Nein! Die grösste Trolle kommt aus Deutschland! :-o :-D
Sorry, Kronos! ;-)
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@ whabang
No, "Förenade vi stå", because we Swedes are slowly but steadily coming closer and closer to the EU, infiltrating it, and soon we will rule the Europe and Swedish will be the only language tolerated, muahahahaa ... :-D
Nah, you European people have nothing to fear, the Swedes are very found of isolating themselves, they believe in "the power of borders". If it was economically possible for Sweden to build a Chinese Wall all around the countries boarder, I'm sure it would be done. And then we would start at least 1000 new "central" banks, no wait, one unique central bank and one unique currency **for everey citizen**, because we Swedes don't like when Bruxells "kommer här och bestämmer över oss"! And ... (nah, enough of this Off Topic babbeling ;-))
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
And which logo you saw also depended on in which part of the world you lived in. Have you seen the "Amiga" text on the boxes of the A500's Redrumloa sold (http://amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=287)? Not much semi-serif there ...
Those A500s were pre-semiserif era, the semiserif was commissioned by Escom. If you want a design that 99.999% of all Amiga users recognise then go for the embossed Italic "Amiga" that was stamped on every model ever made.
(BTW, has that butterfly problems with gas? ;-))
Nah it's just rocket propelled :-D
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Det är bara en fråga om tid... Snart kommer vi blott vara en delstat i polisstaten "Das Europeische Bundesrepublik". :-D
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Whenever I've seen the word "gay" used on the 'net in this context, it's usually been spelled "ghey"...
Obviously not an official spelling, but a good way to differentiate between the two versions of the word.
Regarding logos:
IMO, a logo needs to fulfill several criteria...
1) Easily recognisable with minimal "give away" - the "Amiga" (red-dot-over-the-i) doesn't work too well here.
2) Works when used on different types of media - TV, print, packaging, etc. i.e. at different resolutions/sizes, and potentially colour and b/w.
3) Can be used to do something! A cool logo is one that reaches out to people; catches their attention. If it can be animated, then it's a good 'un! (Saying this, however, doesn't vindicate the Windows logo...!)
4) Ideally the logo should relate to the product or company. Not too sure how this would work for the Amiga, unless the logo is a heart, perhaps boing patterned ! :)
FWIW, my vote goes to the Check Mark, and then the Boing ball.
The Check has so many advertising possibilities that are just crying out for exploitation...
"Powerful processor... check
High-definition multimedia graphics... check
True pre-emptive multitasking... check
Slick, small operating system... check
...
All checks are complete - we are ready to go!"
etc. :-D
/back to work... :)
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Ist jeder mit einem anderen oppinion als Fleecy oder sich automatisch ein troll? Meiner Meinung nach mißbraucht Kronos nicht Leute und herauf Mühe sich zu rühren, ist er gerades Unterstreichen *seine Ansichten* wenn die Leute erklären *ihre Ansichten*.
(This post was powered by Babelfish(tm) ;-))
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USE, United States of Europe! I'll vote "Ja"! :-o :-) :-D
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"Is everyone automatic with another oppinion than Fleecy or itself troll? According to my opinion Kronos abuses not people and trouble to agitate up, is it straight underlining * its opinions * if the people explains * its opinions *."
You said what?!?!? :lol:
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
USE, United States of Europe! I'll vote "Ja"! :-o :-) :-D
Oh, yeah!
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Much prefer the "tick" logo! Boing aint all bad tho..
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@ whabang
Well, it hardly gets any "better" when you use the Babelfish output as input for another round, hehe. Like faxing a text document a hundred times! Take it around a couple of more times:
Ist jeder mit ein anderes oppinion als Fleecy oder selbst troll automatisch? Entsprechend meiner Meinung mißbraucht Kronos nicht Leute und oben aufzuregen die Mühe, ist es gerade unterstreichend * seine Meinungen * wenn die Leute erklären * seine Meinungen *.
Is everyone also another oppinion than Fleecy or even troll automatic? According to my opinion Kronos abuses not people and to excite above the trouble, is straight underlining it * its opinions * if the people explains * its opinions *.
Ist jeder auch ein anderes oppinion als Fleecy oder sogar das automatische troll? Entsprechend meiner Meinung mißbraucht Kronos nicht Leute und über der Mühe aufzuregen, ist gerade, sie unterstreichend * seine Meinungen * wenn die Leute * seine Meinungen *. erklären
Is everyone also another oppinion than Fleecy or even the automatic troll? According to my opinion Kronos abuses not people and over the trouble to excite, is straight, it underlining * its opinions * if the people * its opinions *. explains
Ist jeder auch ein anderes oppinion als Fleecy oder sogar das automatische troll? Entsprechend meiner Meinung mißbraucht Kronos nicht Leute und Überschuß die aufzuregen Mühe, ist gerade, es unterstreichend * seine Meinungen * wenn die Leute * seine Meinungen *. erklären
... and the final result:
Is everyone also another oppinion than Fleecy or even the automatic troll? According to my opinion Kronos abuses not people and surplus to excite the trouble, is straight, it underlining * its opinions * if the people * its opinions *. explains
Voilà!
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(I moved this post to a new thread here! (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4348))
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LOL! :lol:
The original post was actually somewhat readable. I don't know why I complained... :-D
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Its a great logo. Ball symbolizes unity (earth) and rectangulars symbolize the chess you need to play in order to use your amiga :-)
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@Herewegoagain
The Silver like pictured above looks really proffesional.
Did you get a reply? or even a response? It's very good work!
Thanks, glad you liked it. I didn't get a reply (and will not) because they will eventually create a poll to vote, and the top 20 choices are suppose to go into the contributions folder of the OS4 CD. That would be cool enough for me if one of mine gets selected.
As for the Escom association, I'm pretty sure the name AMIGA came from another company too so I don't see the font or word to be a problem there
Right, it is not the word "Amiga" that was in question, but rather the style of the one with the red square over the "i". I always took that red square to be a single square from the Boing Ball. But maybe it was an association to Escom... I don't recall what Escom's logo looked like.
Update: All of the Amiga logos (text wise) can be seen
on this page. (http://www.commodore-amiga.de/AMiGA-Story.htm) Escom's logo is near the top, but at the bottom of the page it has all of the "Amiga" text incarnations from over the years.
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Ball symbolizes unity
Not a very apt logo then? :-)
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@ herewegoagain
Nice (Tick) backdrops. :-)
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Opi-Poi wrote:
@ herewegoagain
Nice (Tick) backdrops. :-)
Thanks...
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FLAME removed..
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@DonnyEMU
This thread is no way related to anyone's sexual orientation. The use of the word gay in this case has some different meaning, just as gay orginally meant "happy" and was then also used to mean Homosexuality. It's just a quirk of english language in a certain part of the world.
It's not like those idiots who tried to make out that Teletubbies promoted homosexuality.
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@ DonnyEMU
Blimey. Perhaps you should read the rest of the thread before deciding the guy deserved being flamed again?
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Thank you.
@ everyone
No more flaming whoever made the unfortunate comment in the first place. The guy has apologised for it already, and did not mean anything offensive by it.
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Wasn't the tick a symbol for Workbench rather than Amiga? I like the boing very much. A logo must be unique and I would almost go as far as to say that someone seeing the boing logo for the first time would intuitively know that it represented Amiga. Boing is definitely cool!
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the people who think a butterfly is unique and a better option , grow up ..or just do some research.
allready there is a os called "ALMOST THE SAME" , thats one ..
several software companies have had butterflies as a logo since the early 80's , so basically the main consumers will get confused of it if they have some sort of knowledge about excisting game companies and the almost named simmilar OS.
beyond that.. MOS the nickname of morphos means "GAY" .
oh and infact there is also a hw producing company who has a blue butterfly and its identical to mos butterfly! ..
i am guessing this...if it ever gets popular outside the community , some lawsuits are bound to happen.
just my op. anyway and last i checked this is the place to put out your opinions.
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Hi,
Does anyone else think this, that its a really naff logo?
I think its a great logo, I wouldnt change it even if i had the chance. :-)
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I prefer the checkmark by far, (Never even SEEN a
boing logo on Commodore hardware, was it more a European thing?)
Ok, so this is not on hardware as such, but I found this on The Commodore Billboard (http://www.commodorebillboard.de/) -Commodore Amiga advertisment (http://www.commodorebillboard.de/Commercials/Amiga/english/Videos/Amiga1000Commercial.mpg) which features BOTH the 'Amiga boing ball' AND the 'Amiga rainbow tick'.
I always prefered the rainbow tick personally, to me it's sort of a seal of approval - it implies a pass, or perhaps a thumbs up.
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amigamad wrote:
I dis agree its a great logo . :-?
The boing ball is dead ugly. It is gay, in the new sense of the word, not the old meaning. :-P
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iamaboringperson wrote:
amigamad wrote:
I dis agree its a great logo . :-?
The boing ball is dead ugly. It is gay, in the new sense of the word, not the old meaning. :-P
I'm sick of the damn ball, and I hate the word "Boing"
"Get boinged" just sounds so dumb.
I was telling someone who's never heard about Amiga about the OS, and showed him a screenshot on the web and it had the words "Get boinged" blazing acrossed the screen, it didn't impress him and I felt silly trying to advocate something with such a dumb slogan in it.
I don't mind the ball if it's conservative, ie a small ball in the top left corner as in OS4, but the balls balls balls everywhere obsession drives me nuts.
I don't really like the pretentious overtone in "So the world may know" either. I don't know, maybe I'm just grumpy.
I like the checkmark though.
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@T_Bone
What would you prefer to the boing ball? I think it is great looking. It is clean, easy to recognize, and not dated. Similar to Apple updating from the old rainbow Apple to the new aqua plastic looking one, the red/white ball is simpler and more elegant than the check mark (which I like as well anyway). Even MS has updated the "window" logo several times now to keep it up to date, but the boing ball has not needed this. It still looks good. And as far as emblazing the company icon everywhere, take a look at Commodore,Apple, MS, Sun and others (Mozilla, Netscape, AOL, etc...) each plasters their respective tm icon anywhere they can to make sure it gets recognized. Why wouldn't / shouldn't Amiga do the same? Atleast the boing ball has something to do with the Amiga past. Would a 2/3 colour representation of the Juggler from the Juggler Demo be more Amiga? Or Amy Squirrel be more Amiga?
I wouldn't mind seeing a new logo idea (or update to the boingball), but I don't think that anyone in the community could agree on one to fit, considering the company that is semi in control of the Amigas fate is barely able to keep itself together a logo change is probably not on their priority list of things to do atm.
As far as text for the Amiga name goes, I much prefer the 1985 italics typeface used. For a while, I liked the new looking one, but it now only represents false promises and lies.
My 2 cents.