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Title: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: spiffydinosaur on August 01, 2002, 09:17:06 AM
I saw this story on NBR ( Nightly Business Report ) could mean better pricing for PPC chips. If they can produce more chips than Mr. Jobs and Apple can buy, Amiga might just get a few at a good price. :-)

IBM factory news (http://hosting.standardandpoors.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/SNP.woa/3014/wo/a41000S8500IZ300Y4/10.0.GenericTemplate.11.LocalNavBarContainer.0.GenericLocalTemplate.0.13.research_company_News.3.1.1.0.1.1.5.3.0.5)

Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: Blitter on August 01, 2002, 11:51:12 AM
Personally I would rather they concentrate their efforts on updating the PPC frontside bus and creating better reference designs for the north and south bridge.  I for one would love to see a company make reference designs the companies could make chipset's, cpu's, and memory that all ran at the same frequency.  There was a short periosd in time when this did occur.  But ithas long since vanished.  get rid of the bottle necks and bring on Solid-State drives!

Blitter
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: Valan on August 01, 2002, 12:13:39 PM
@ Blitter
I totally agree, but what is holding up the development of frontside bus speeds?

If the bus ran the same frequency as the CPUs would this make the whole computer very hot?

I think they should go for distributed processing with slower(cooler?) chips.  Then they need to work on the efficiency of the whole system. At the moment it seems that CPU speed means all.

Valan
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: Blitter on August 01, 2002, 12:55:15 PM
@Valen

Temperature... not exactley... The chipset and RAM manufacturers are still using .18+ micron processes to make ram and chipsets.  there is still a lot of improvements that can be made in just changing the manufacturing process.  A drop in micron based processing means large Mhz/Ghz gains and not cost in temperature.  The closer you place the transitors to each other the less the friction the elctiricity causes.  Which allows you to up the voltage/wave frequency.

That's a very lamens explination, but I'm tired and I'm going to bed.  :-P

'night,

Blitter
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: xeron on August 01, 2002, 05:00:42 PM
Are they using vanilla wafers or chocolate ones? :-D

I can't imagine either being a very good material to build a factory with though  :-D
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: L8-X on August 01, 2002, 06:55:24 PM
LOL this is what I get when I click on the link....

"Your session has timed out due to inactivity.
Please return to the home page and sign in again."


 :-D
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: spiffydinosaur on August 01, 2002, 06:59:57 PM
I like the chocolate ones with the frosting inside. Don't know how well they would hold up, but, they are great with milk.

NBR (http://www.NBR.com)

IBM story (http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=28085086)

Sorry about that the link timed out. 8-)

This liink is through Lycos instead of S&P. Hope this won't time out?

Spiffy :-D
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: Herewegoagain on August 01, 2002, 07:03:22 PM
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LOL this is what I get when I click on the link....

"Your session has timed out due to inactivity.
Please return to the home page and sign in again."


Same here...guess we got to it too late. :(

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Are they using vanilla wafers or chocolate ones?


Personally, I think they should use Vanilla wafers...and for the morter, it should be Vanilla pudding.... :-D
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: xeron on August 01, 2002, 07:29:35 PM
They could use vanilla wafers for the walls, and chocolate wafers for the roof.
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: Agafaster on August 01, 2002, 10:09:33 PM
Choccy wafer tubey things (the ones you can stick inice cream) all held together by strawberry Icemagic. assuming you can get the bloody stuff to set.

(199 is 4 stars ? I am now on 121 ! yayy ! come on you reds ! ) :-D :pint:
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: xeron on August 01, 2002, 10:25:04 PM
Heheheh.. I can't believe my silly comments about vanilla wafers has turned into a discussion about the best way to build a chip fabrication plant out of food   :-D
Title: Re: IBM opens new factory using 300mm wafers
Post by: Skyraker on August 02, 2002, 05:46:59 AM
@AGAFASTER

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(199 is 4 stars ? I am now on 121 ! yayy ! come on you reds ! )  


Thats more points than forest are going to get over the next 10 seasons combined..... heh you'll be playing Blackpool next year ;)

Best regards

Skyraker.