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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: GadgetMaster on July 25, 2002, 08:54:32 PM
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Jens Langner released a GCC cross-compiler environment and binaries for compiling/porting existing applications to Amithlon (x86).
x86-ami-gcc
Description from the readme: This archive contains a uptodate version of a AmigaOS (68k)hosted gcc cross compiler environment for compiling/porting existing applications to Amithlon (x86). Readme (http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/aminet/dev/gcc/x86-ami-gcc.readme)
Download (3.8 MB) ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/dev/gcc/x86-ami-gcc.lha
x86-ami-bin
Description from the readme: This archive contains the binutils 2.9.1 version of the AmigaOS (68k) hosted binutils for compiling/porting existing applications to Amithlon (x86). Readme (http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/aminet/dev/gcc/x86-ami-bin.readme)
Download (2.9 MB) ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/dev/gcc/x86-ami-bin.lha
The x86-ami-bin.lha archive is required to successfully use the cross-compiler.
Website of Jens Langner (http://www.htw-dresden.de/~htw10895/)
Source:GFXBASE (http://www.gfxbase.com/ )
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Cool. I didn't even know this one was in the works.
I've only just managed to get Martin Blom's Linux based cross-compiler installed properly, so this should complement it nicely.
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/me picks his words carefully as not to start a flame war...
...but in my opinion coders should save their time and effort in 68k and PPC coding. IMHO x86 is a dead end as far as the Amiga is concerned.
And that's IMHO, so don't get angry.
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Perhaps, but there are two things to note:
1- This compiler allows 68k programs to simply be recompiled, with minimal extra work if any. The performance gain can be anything up to about 50%.
2- Indications so far have failed to prove that there will be enough AOS4 users to support a commercial market on their own. Commercially prudent developers won't put all their eggs in one basket until they know that basket is big enough to hold 'em.
Aside from that I'll ignore the rest of your post which was just flamebait.
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...but in my opinion coders should save their time and effort in 68k and PPC coding. IMHO x86 is a dead end as far as the Amiga is concerned.
I don’t see Amiga Inc is against Amithlon venture.
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bhoggett, right on both counts.
However, I wasn't trying to provoke a flame war - there have been quite enough lately, thank you. x86 is not a promising path, because it makes it impossible to sell any hardware, and it goes face-first against Windows and Linux.
Ah, but this has been said so many times. Just go your way and I'll go mine. We'll see in the end who's was better.
PS: It doesn't help that the attitude of many Amigans is "better dead than Intel".
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However, I wasn't trying to provoke a flame war
Yes, I read that disclaimer the first time round, but it's not enough if what you say afterwards remains blatantly provocative.
Your approach to this thread is: "Don't support Amithlon as it's a waste of time and effort."
As an Amithlon user, I have a problem with that. I'm not a fan of the "official" solution, nor will I be buying an AmigaOne because it doesn't meet my requirements, but I don't go around telling people they shouldn't support it, or shouldn't develop for AOS4, or whatever. See the difference?
I'll go further than that. Not one of the current Amiga related solutions (classic m68k AOS+WarpOS/PowerUP, AOS4, MOS, AROS, Amithlon) have a hope in hell of supporting healthy commercial development on their own. This is simple economic reality. So, while it is unrealistic and impractical to expect everyone to merge into a unified product, co-operation is still possible. This would mean that commercial developers would have a common API to allow them to tap the biggest market possible, while it would also make it possible to share technology between the solutions, which would benefit everyone.
I'm already aware of one Linux application that is being ported to Amithlon, and which for the time being won't be available elsewhere. However, as the development is Open Source, it may be possible to use some of the technology to improve the other solutions in time. Everyone benefits.
PS: It doesn't help that the attitude of many Amigans is "better dead than Intel".
That's their problem, not mine.
They say there are two kinds of people who say "I'd rather die than...": those who don't really mean it, and the dead ones.
:-P