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Title: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: GadgetMaster on July 10, 2002, 10:11:47 PM
ELBOX Interview for AMIGART.COM
Krakow, 8 July 2002

Read it here (http://www.amigart.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1250)

Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: jd997uk on July 10, 2002, 11:03:22 PM
Heh, PCI for the mediator in a few days. More good news.

-john
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: GadgetMaster on July 10, 2002, 11:23:24 PM
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Heh, PCI for the mediator in a few days. More good news


Don't you mean PCI USB cards?
 :-?
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: redrumloa on July 10, 2002, 11:59:33 PM
I must say my respect for Elbox has been climbing lately while my respect for the 'other' pci solutions have been sharply falling.
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: Jose on July 11, 2002, 12:51:12 AM
Maybe I'm not well informed about this.
While I agree with some of ther view relatiing a general PCI library, I also disagree. Sure they should be able to keep their work safe, no doubt. But what about if others wanted to make drivers for all PCI cards, do they have to do one for each ?
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: theTAO on July 11, 2002, 02:29:50 AM
Yeah, the "proprietary driver" issue is one of the reasons I've avoided buying any PCI busboard so far.  I think (hope ?) that their comments about PCI drivers apply only to OS3.x and not to OS4.0.  I am currently more interested in buying a Mediator/Shark+ system for OS4.0 than an AmigaOne because it will provide more integrated functionality (like firewire) while not abandoning unique Amiga technology (nice keyboards, Catweasel boards, etc.).  But I won't buy one if it still requires Elbox-only drivers.  OS4.x is supposed to have a real Hardware Abstraction Layer, so even if we get some of this protectionism at the start, these games can't go on forever.  I have no problem with Elbox selling their drivers (hey, the more, the merrier!) but there's eventually got to be one central PCI API, and that's Amiga's busisness to define, not Elbox's.

The article read a bit like a press release...I wish the interviewer could have pushed them for a few more details... :-/

Todd
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: Kronos on July 11, 2002, 03:29:57 AM
Disclaimer:
The following post may look like unneeded nitpicking,but.....




.... did that ever stop me :-D

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We are not providing SharkPPC cards to any external developers.
Technically speaking, the AmigaOS4 which will be running in AmigaOne, due to high architecture compliance (SharkPPC cards and Articia S-based boards) will run in SharkPPC cards.



Sofar Elbox hasn't send a Shark to Hyperion, and it seems that this won't
change. According to them it is so much HW-compatible to the A1 that it
wouldn't need any special code in OS4.

Now we all know that the Pegasos is even closer to the A1, but still Ben H
insist, that he can't port OS4 because bPlan never send him a dev-board.

Somehow this doesn't make any sense  :-(

Up until further notice I will keep the Shark on my "100% vapor"-list.  :-o
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: redrumloa on July 11, 2002, 05:45:26 AM
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Up until further notice I will keep the Shark on my "100% vapor"-list.


Well I actually agree with Kronos about something! Actually the regular Shark exists, it's just a rebaged 3rd party mac accelerator. OS4.0 support is another story and makes it vapor. The Shark+ on the other hand is a complete joke ATM.
Title: Re: A Small Interview with Elbox !
Post by: xeron on July 11, 2002, 11:51:28 PM
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Actually the regular Shark exists, it's just a rebaged 3rd party mac accelerator


Is that "fact" derived from the fact that you saw the photos online that show that they look "similar"?

If yes, I wish people would stop presenting what appears to be the case as solid fact. Can't you just say "Shark APPEARS TO BE just a rebadged mac accelerator, judging by some photos I saw online" ?

If you have confirmed, actual proof that this is the case, ignore the above  :-D