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Title: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: Oli_hd on June 08, 2002, 11:06:24 PM
Yvon Rozijn the author of the Amiga internet web browser "AWeb" has released his source code so that others in the Amiga community may continue with AWeb's development.

Click Here! (http://www.xs4all.nl/~yrozijn/aweb/index.html)



"I regret that I haven't got the time to continue development of the AWeb browser."

"I like to express my thanks to the Amiga community for using my browser. In return I will release the source code of AWeb, so others in the Amiga community have a chance to continue development. "

So who's going to try and update Aweb then? This is the first decent Web  browser thats had it's source code available to the public so come on, Let's get coding and make a real good browser to show off the Amiga`s power (I would love to do web pages that had Amiga IFF anims on, So what if PC users cant see it?  ) :-D

Sad that he hasnt got the time though.
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: Rodney on June 08, 2002, 11:21:45 PM
This would have been a really great project for the AROS team. Well, maybe they will still make good use of it as opensource!

The APL seems similar to the GPL - i wonder why he didnt got with that licence
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: D@n on June 08, 2002, 11:25:38 PM
Great news that its now open source
Bad news that there will be no more official development.
Someone set up an AWeb open-source team quick!
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: Orgin on June 09, 2002, 03:24:41 AM
He can still grant the AROS team a specific license to be able to use it in their project.

/Björn
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: 4pLaY on June 09, 2002, 05:00:46 AM
Orgin long time no see =) i miss youre ugly face on the #Aros irc channel :) (yes yes i know you have troubles with EFnet) :-).
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: Orgin on June 09, 2002, 06:24:18 AM
Howdy :) Can't spend much time on IRC anyway. My GF gets lunatic if I sit more than 5 mins by the comp ;o)

/Björn
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: theTAO on June 09, 2002, 07:30:18 AM
Major kudos to Yvon for releasing the source!  Too many times, good software has died when the programmer lacks the time and/or interest to continue development.  Hopefully this source release will help keep AWeb relevant for at least a few more years.  Maybe it will even encourage other programmers to release their source code? :-)

My only disappointment is that I expected to see code for an AWeb 4.0 alpha, or at least something beyond 3.4.  If any work was done on a future AWeb, I guess it's been lost.  Years ago on the AWeb mailing list, I remember William Parker from Amitrix soliciting users to test a new AWeb cache system.  Whatever it was, sadly it never made it into a commercial release.

I look forward to seeing a new AWeb open-source development team!

Todd
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: 4pLaY on June 09, 2002, 08:15:28 AM
Haha to bad Orgin! ;) but dont let the bitch run you like that ;) heh i had several girls that said "now im sick of youre amigas you have to choose me or youre amigas" i always replied Then leave there is always more girls where you came from ;).
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: Orgin on June 09, 2002, 04:17:33 PM
Well, it's by choise mostly. I don't want to sit by the comp for enless hours anymore. Life is so much bigger than that :) And besides, the sweet period is almost over. Old habits tend to kick back after that ;o)

/Björn
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: 4pLaY on June 09, 2002, 04:42:34 PM
Hehe yeah! whell i hope to see youre face back there one time or to =) neither you or petah has been there in AGES.
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: PhatAgnus on June 09, 2002, 10:39:29 PM
My only worry about AWeb going open source is the possibility of it becoming too unstable. When one developer works on a project it becomes his baby, & would resist submitting releases that would make him "lose face". With open source, it's a pool of everyone tacking on their kludge in hopes that it'll swing with the rest of the code. Tossed out to the Sharks in the waters to beta test, it becomes a frustrated mess possibly irreversible. It nearly killed Netscape (remember Ver.6.0??).
The Amiga Community doesn't need that kind of fate. I'm an avid AWeb user for the way it functions today-even with it's weaknessess, it's the one Amiga browser I prefer (much to Wayne's dislike-heheheh!) Think I'll make a backup copy of it now before I lose it to a buggy beta upgrade.
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: miles on June 10, 2002, 12:51:11 PM
Anyone looking at developing AWeb further should have a look at

http://www.carrott.org/amiga/aweb/

BTW (Matthias Munch and) the Author of this site (Tom Parker) have
taken over the development of Jabberwocky.

http://www.carrott.org/amiga/jabberwocky/
Title: Re: Aweb Source Code released
Post by: falemagn on June 12, 2002, 12:00:20 AM
There's no need for the AROS Team to get a different kind of license for AWeb: it's an external application, it doesn't need to be distributed together with AROS.

Anyway, being the one who's making AWeb compile with gcc, I can tell you that I'd not want AWeb to be part of AROS: without offense for Yvon, but it's pretty much spaghetti code, you can see how features have been "stratified" over other features, and the source code itself is in a very bad shape.

Moreover, AWeb requires classact/reaction, which AROS doesn't have, nor I think it'll ever have (we've got Zune, a replacement for MUI).

Granted, Yvon has made a great job (don't forget that AWeb is mostly a one-man project), but I think that AWeb, as it is now, is not easily expandable and modern features cannot be implemented without rethinking the whole engine.

Fabio Alemagna
AROS Developer