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Title: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: seer on May 22, 2002, 02:44:43 AM
From ANN (http://www.ann.lu) this was posted on  MorphOS-news (http://www.morphos-news.de/): "The Pegasos presentation (http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/news/news06_e.html) in 'neues' has been cancelled. An official statement will follow."

Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Coder on May 22, 2002, 02:52:44 AM
I am waiting for the statement. Strange they cancelled it.

Coder
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Kronos on May 22, 2002, 02:57:26 AM
All iI heard sofar is that it wasn't canceled by bPlan but by 3Sat.

Maybe due to the false A1/COS4 announcment or fleecys
statement.

We'll see.
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: redrumloa on May 22, 2002, 03:00:54 AM
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Maybe due to the false A1/COS4 announcment or fleecys statement.

We'll see.


Maybe Amiga's "Lawyers" are finally earning their money. Considering they are not making the official announcement until later makes me believe it is a legal issue.
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Kronos on May 22, 2002, 03:05:49 AM
Legal issue ? Yeah I'm sure !

But I'm not so sure if this is the IP-issue.

3Sat has allready removed everything on their HP so it could be
that they thought they could be hold responsible for spreading
false information, by claiming they would show A1/COS4 and
then actually showing Pegasos/MorphOS.

Could well be they just put it on a later date to avoid this.

/me holding his fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Coder on May 22, 2002, 03:06:20 AM
Hi redrumloa,

I think you are right. Legal issues. what else?

Coder
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: seer on May 22, 2002, 03:07:19 AM
Maybe it is a legal  issue, maybe the host got sick... who knows but 3sat and MOS/bPlan.. Does make one wonder..

And if you think that only ANN has it's trolls, read the comment on morph-os.de...
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Tomas on May 22, 2002, 03:10:02 AM
i will just say SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH............

Looks like both pegasos and amigaone is a damn hoax then....... Getting more and more pessimistic for every day.
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: seer on May 22, 2002, 03:17:35 AM
Looks like both pegasos and amigaone is a damn hoax then....... Getting more and more pessimistic for every day.

Hmmm.. Well it is strange that we get to see a video of the Pegger, tho not from bPlan, and that the whole thing will be on a show and then that gets cancelled...

Here's hoping that the A1 presentation on the 25th is still a "GO" ;-)
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Tomas on May 22, 2002, 03:20:54 AM
yeah same here.. still some hope left  :-)

Just feelt a little down after reading that os4 for cyberstorm was going to be released first.

I really really dont want to wait another year.
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: redrumloa on May 22, 2002, 03:24:30 AM
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And if you think that only ANN has it's trolls, read the comment on morph-os.de...


You are kidding right? The few times I have gone to Morphos.de there was NO activity. Someone actually posted a comment there? Someone actually flammed them? I'm stunned! :-o
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: seer on May 22, 2002, 03:27:58 AM
Just feelt a little down after reading that os4 for cyberstorm was going to be released first.

IIRC, Hyperion has been saying that for some time now, and I for one would be hapy with it.. Maybe I'll give the old Lady another go.. Try to fixerherup...

I really really dont want to wait another year.

Me neither.. But when they have a working OS4 on a Cyberstorm then an A1 version can't be far away.....
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: seer on May 22, 2002, 03:29:32 AM
Someone actually posted a comment there?

Yep.. Not that it was a genius at work or something...

Besides, it was the first time I even looked at the site... :-P
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: seer on May 22, 2002, 03:35:54 AM
Joined: 2002/2/15
Posts: 666
South Florida


Hehehe..

He redrumloa, you crossed the beast !
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: CD32Freak on May 22, 2002, 03:45:12 AM
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Joined: 2002/2/15
Posts: 666
South Florida

Hehehe..

He redrumloa, you crossed the beast !
Playing "The Number of the Beast" by Iron Maiden would be appropiate now :lol:  :-D
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Argo on May 22, 2002, 04:06:27 AM
Lets hold our conjecture until we get to read that statement. I hope it's soon.
Got to admit the Amiga world is one hell of a rollercoster ride.

Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Elektro on May 22, 2002, 04:48:17 AM
"Joined: 2002/2/15
Posts: 666
South Florida"

(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/skytorn/penta.gif) (http://plauder-smilies.de/party/ylsuper.gif)
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: System on May 22, 2002, 05:24:24 AM
Laughable speculation on here:

"Oh yes Amiga Inc is evil, let me call their products silly names ( such as COS4 ) because it irritates people so and I hope it will catch on..."
<@Kronos>

"Its the TV peoples fault, they cancelled it"
<@eejits>

"Its all a big misunderstanding, if we all learned to love a little we would all get on so much better"
<@pollyanna>

"Its just a Mac and Ive slept with Dave Haynie".....
<@Shawn>

Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: The_Editor on May 22, 2002, 06:01:46 AM
Yeah ?  But did you HAVE Lou  Eggs for Breakfast?  :-D
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: redrumloa on May 22, 2002, 06:44:13 AM
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"Joined: 2002/2/15
Posts: 666
South Florida


Good things cant last forever!!  (http://plauder-smilies.com/devil/saevil.gif)

Oh well! hehe
(http://plauder-smilies.com/devil/sasmokin.gif)
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: MasterOfReality on May 22, 2002, 08:38:03 AM
...for the devil sends the fleece with wrath
because he knows the time is short .
Let him that hath understanding reckon the number of the fleece,
For it is a human number...
It's number is six hundred and sixty six...

I feel alone
my mind is blank
I need some time
to get morphos off my mind.

No morphos on TV? Can I believe
that what the Threndic video showed was real and not just fantasy?

WaS what I saw
In that AV
Just reflections of AmigaOS staring back at me?

'Cos I just saw
WB3.9 there
The evil face that twists my A1200
and brings it to despair.

Yeeeeeaaaaahhhh!

Ralph's a tw*t
There's no use holding back
'Cos you just have to see
He's stolen Bill's IP.

In the mist
the source code turns and twists
Is Bill's claim for real
Or some imagined hell.

6, 6 6,
The number of the fleece
Legal might
was spawned to be released

Sources blaze
And sacred code is raised
as Bplan start to cry
Threndic handhelds still Pie in the Sky

In the night
Those source tapes burning bright
The cover up has begun
BPlan's work is done...

6, 6 6, The number of the fleece!
Legal might
will get bPlan tonight.

This can't go on
Fleece has informed the law
Is AOS4 for real
or some crazy dream

But I feel drawn toward
the evil OS morph
It seems to mermerize
Can't avoid the lies

6, 6 6,
the number of the Fleece
O, S 4,
the one for you and me!

Ralph will come back
He will return!
And he'll possess your mind
and make your HD burn

He is the Shmidt(e) [ (e) for rhmying purposes only]
He is the force
He has the power
To make MOS run of course.

:-D

No offence indended to anyone. I'v just been listening to the song and
found this funny. It doesn't represent my views at all. Please don't
flame me for this. JOKE!!!

Apologies to anyone that doesn't know the song. If you find me on ICQ
i'll try to sing it to you! :-P
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on May 22, 2002, 11:17:42 AM
Dude - h@h@h@! very clever :-D  but you h@ve too much time on your h@nds :-P
M@ybe I should h@ve sent you my DV to render out..... ;-)

@ppologies for @ll the @ in my post. My key next to S is screwd.
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: System on May 22, 2002, 02:16:40 PM
It got cancelled because the TV slot was 5 minutes and they couldnt keep it up for more than 2 minutes despite how many connectors they played with.

At least it gives them more time to post bullcrap on ANN and amiga-news.de.

Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: shIva on May 22, 2002, 04:30:42 PM
perhaps we should wait for the official statement. some things here seem to be bulls**t.  :-o



Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: redrumloa on May 22, 2002, 08:12:30 PM
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Poster: MasterOfReality Date: 2002/5/22 1:38:03


LOL! I got a good laugh out of this!

PLEASE do us a favor! Sing this karoke style and record it to MP3!! Then put it up on aminet!

You could call youself 'Weird Al Master' or 'Weird Al Miggy'. hehe
 :-o
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: MasterOfReality on May 22, 2002, 10:32:53 PM
Wouldn't that be a violation of Iron Maiden's IP?

:-P
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: redrumloa on May 22, 2002, 10:36:34 PM
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Wouldn't that be a violation of Iron Maiden's IP?


No I don't think so. Parody is legal:-)
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: hnl_dk on May 22, 2002, 11:45:00 PM
Hi everybody

I don't think they cancelled the demonstration because of the "maybe" lawsuit!

I believe 3sat cancelled the demonstration because Bplan+MorphOS didn't tell the truth to 3sat!

3sat never said anything about either Bplan or MorphOS! Bplan properbly said to 3sat that they were making a new Amiga and who wouldn't be interested the "first" public demonstration of the new AMIGA?
And now they have heard the it's "nothing famus", just a Bplan Pegasos with MorphOS running on it!!!

I look forward to see the real thing: the AmigaOneG3-SE with AmigaOS 4.0!!!

The best wished for Amiga, Hyperion and Eyetech!
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: J on May 22, 2002, 11:50:46 PM
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Quote:

Wouldn't that be a violation of Iron Maiden's IP?

No I don't think so. Parody is legal


Aah, so thats what bPlan's lawyers are claiming  :-D

Disclaimer: JOKE

J
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: System on May 23, 2002, 12:01:13 AM
Remarkable, redrumloa, you've also  just saved MorphOS!  If it's simply a parody of AmigaOS 3.x, it must be perfectly legal. :-)

Under the same terms, isn't a certain amount of "sampling" also legal?

Maybe we'll see that demo yet...

In all seriousness, thanks to AmigaInc, Hyperion, and Eyetech for giving us more of what others can only copy. My A4000 died two years ago, but soon I'll be coming home.

Justin Smith
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: DaveP on May 23, 2002, 04:50:21 AM
Erm I know you were joking but in case any lamer decides to use this point in the forum....

See what happened to Verve with Bitter Sweet Symphony, which is a more similar situation. Or Hoover vs Dyson.

Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: MasterOfReality on May 23, 2002, 10:15:48 AM
OK, I'm bored again. Here's another one (for the Ozzy fans this
time)...
Same disclaimer applies.

(crap synth-organ intro)

Mister Ralphy,
What went on in your head?
Oh Mr. Ralphy,
Thought Amiga were dead...

Your luck in this case seems so tragic
What with Bill and them all
You brought us all PPC magic
Now you wait on the lawyers' call

Mr. Charming,
Thought that MorphOS was pure.
It's alarming
That your case is so poor.
Uncovering source that was sacred
Manifest in your work
Conceived with your eye on their secrets
Make damn sure you get those tapes burned.

Yeeaaaahhh...

(solo)

Mr. Ralphy
Can you disguise their source?
Mr. Ralphy
It is futile, of course.
Approaching the end of the Classic,
We hear the pegasos call.
Amigas response will be drastic
You're standing with your back to the wall.

(solo)

Was it illegally made?
If it was you'll soon pay...
I want to know
I want to know
I want to know - will MorphOS see light of day?....

(extra-specially wanky guitar solo and end.)

Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: Elektro on May 23, 2002, 11:25:27 PM
(http://plauder-smilies.de/party/ylsuper.gif)
Title: Re: Pegasos presentation in 'neues' cancelled!
Post by: hnl_dk on May 24, 2002, 03:56:46 AM
3sat has written a new "thing" at their page:
"Das ursprünglich vorgesehene Thema Amiga - Back to the Roots entfällt. Aus aktuellen Gründen wird sich neues. computer und mehr mit den aktuellen gesetzlichen Entwicklungen im Hinblick auf neue Medien, insbesondere Computerspiele, beschäftigen. Daniel Rasch begrüsst zu diesem Thema im Studio den Justizminister des Landes Rhein-land-Pfalz, Herbert Mertin (FDP), und einen Vertreter des Verbandes der Unterhaltungs-software Deutschland, VUD (angefragt)."

translated with Altavista:
"the originally planned topic Amiga - bake ton the roots is void. For current reasons new computer and more will be occupied with the current legal developments regarding new media, in particular computer games. Daniel rapid welcomes to this topic in the studio the Minister of Justice of the country Rhineland-Palatinate, Herbert Mertin (FDP), and a representative of the federation of the maintenance software Germany, VUD (inquired)."

Read it here:
http://www.3sat.de/neues/sendungen/show/32914/index.html (http://www.3sat.de/neues/sendungen/show/32914/index.html)

Quote
Break


And this is from bplan:
"bplan regrets to inform you that the television report scheduled for May 27th at 9:30 pm

neues - das Computer- und Telekommunikationsmagazin auf 3sat

has been cancelled due to the interference of third parties. At this moment, we are not able to supply further details about the circumstances surrounding this matter. However, we do expect that the television report will be rescheduled in the not too distant future when these matters have been resolved. We are moving diligently to expedite the now required process. Thank you for your interest and support!"

Read it here:
http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/news/news07_e.html (http://www.bplan-gmbh.de/news/news07_e.html)