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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: redrumloa on April 24, 2002, 07:24:28 PM
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Ben Hermans/Hyperion posted this to ANN.
"In the last 48 hours interest in the OS 4 screenshots was such that it threatens to overwhelm the server.
- 50000 visitors (!)
- 9000000 page views
- 2.2 million files transfered
- 17.67 GB of traffic All within 48 HOURS"
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:-o :-o :-o :-D
Sweet, that's a lot of traffic, Keep up the good work Hyperion!!
Graham C
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Cool! If everyone of those visits was a different person.../
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Yee-Haw!
Quixote
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Really great. By the way, I remember someone posting here sometimes under the name HyperionMP (if I am correct). Is that Ben himself? If not, I wish Ben would post here to. Amiga.org is a better place.
Coder
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hehehe..... and every veiwer a potential OS4 buyer :-D
Unless of course it's the MOS crowd filling there pants :-) You're gonna smell them a mile away :-)
Seriously, the number of pepople I know that they say that they will come back! This machine has cult status - its up ther with the likes of starwars. Only A1 is gonna be considerably better than Episode 1.
I just flamed the MOS crowd - I never flame the MOS crowd - I cant usually be bothered :-D :-D :-D. Gentleman - consider this web count to be a sign.... where's Eyeam when you need the dude :-D
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Really great. By the way, I remember someone posting here sometimes under the name HyperionMP (if I am correct). Is that Ben himself? If not, I wish Ben would post here to. Amiga.org is a better place.
I'm sure Ben knows if he posts good news to 1 website, it will spead FAST! No need for him to do it all himself!
:-D
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Impressive :-D
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Ben does post a lot on Ann. And you know there can be some pretty heavy words going on there. Come over here Ben. We got coffee, cookies and Homer has any sort of beer you want. He has Duvel, you must like that. :-)
Coder
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Posted by Steffen Haeuser (80.131.14.230) on 24-Apr-2002 12:57:39
In Reply to Comment 9:
Hi!
It was 47000-something *unique* visitors. Overall visitors was much higher.
Steffen Haeuser
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That many unique visitors?! Whoa...perhaps the draw of the Amiga was underestimated by some. Sweet none the less. I wonder what general feeling towards the shots was in that huge crowd?
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Lets hope they will put better screenshots of the OS (higher resolution, better selection of colors and patterns) in the near future `cause all the non Amigans that will see them won`t be very excited.
keep up the good work guys :o)
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Oh I posted anonymously :/ whatever.... we should keep low profile for now until better pictures (in the way I said in the previous posting) are uploaded `cause I don`t want to see ironic comments on slashdot about the looks of it :-/
Let`s hope all these guys were Amigans that will understand :o)
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I'm sure that they will be coming. At the moment they are just putting up screenshots of bits of functionality - so far Intuition (Window borders) and Menus. To come - Icons, Reaction, AmiDock, and more.
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something from Ann
Just today I was contacted by somebody working at NASA, somebody from NATO and somebody from the
European Union.
All of them sending words of encouragement and offering support.
Posted by Ben Hermans/Hyperion
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It just gets better and better...
I hope OS4 gets as much interest in hard sales as the screenshots are getting. It deserves it, well done to all the developers involved in making it happen, hopefully I'll have it running on a shiny new AmigaOne before June is out.
Chris
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cool, NASA can now replace their aging telemetry computers (last I knew they used Amigas for non-manned space probe telemetry).
The Secret in Hanger AE (http://www.amigaatlanta.org/AEcastro.html)
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"I'm not dead yet!" --Amiga
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WOW! Tht's a REALLY GOOD news for Amiga users...This means That Amiga
Will be there...
However, I hope new screenshots will arrive soon, because at the
moment there's no a really innovation or non-see features there...
I belive in Hyperion! :)
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This is fantastic but, as above, I hope there will be something a bit smarter for them to look at sometime fairly soon :)
It has been said, and I've always agreed, that screenshots will tell little to nothing about the product itself however, it seems that the effect in terms of creating interest and boosting community morale has been astounding - good move HP! :-D
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Sorry guys, i must admit, i returned to the Pages about 6 times the day you posted them, and i still go back looking at them now :)
Sorry :}
hehe.... At least this shows the Amiga Community still holds at least a fairly large community or shows us that others hold some interest in it. I know some of the BeOS community like or at least are interested in AmigaOS. Thats about the only other community though! - But their pliet now is just like ours was and well still is!
That is, BeOS fans are also struggling for the Apps and the Hardware :) and better support. Someone said on Osnews they wouldnt mind OBOS and AmigaOS to combine, well, i dont like their chances :}.
I think AmigaOS will be better off on its own. Amiga Inc have some grand grand plans.
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I believe thats just a general username Coder for anyone @ Hyperion (depending on their position) who wishes to comment on something.
I was say either Ben or, that other guy would post most offen! :) sorry, other guy!
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It wouldn't surprise me to see some of the BeOS community turn to Amiga now the BeOS is fairly well "dead"...(can't really say dead cuz Amiga is testament to the staying power when a comunity is behind it) and I think AmigaOS will give the BeOS users some of the same features they like about their OS. I had BeOS 5 installed, and I liked it, there just wasn't anything that I could realyl do with it. I installed WinAmp for BeOS, set up my hardware (all of which had nicely working drivers except for my modem at the time, crappy Win-modem) and it was nice a fast. Booted up in seconds, as in under 12 after the BIOS screen. Just too bad nobody was behind them in the software department....Hopefully Amiga can get some really big guns (besides MS) interested in developing for it.
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Someone said on Osnews they wouldnt mind OBOS and AmigaOS to combine, well, i dont like their chances :}.
I can't see how OBOS and AmigaOS could be combined, since Amiga obviously wants to retain total control of the OS as proprietary IP, and I doubt if the OBOS coders would trust any company with their blood, sweat and tears after the Be Inc experience.
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Considering that a lot of BeOS users were Amiga users before, it's natural that they'd be checking out AmigaOS again after Be died. I hope they/we find that AmigaOS has advanced beyond what BeOS is. I mean, I hope new features are added to AmigaOS so that it isn't just a PPC port of the older version with some updated legacy apps. BeOS had a lot of "buzzword" features, and AmigaOS should takeup where BeOS left off; otherwise, people other than hardcore fans are going to say "what's the point?"
As for the "big guns" of software, I think it's really doubtful that any will get on board any time soon. They are bottomline-driven, and if the user numbers aren't there, they won't even consider it. It just makes no sense for them financially. This is something that BeOS users are keenly aware of, since we went through this cycle fairly recently.
If AmigaOS hopes to attract major software developers, I think two things are necessary: First, a lot of users (or else a smaller number of heavy-spending users, as in a vertical niche market). Second, the OS needs standout features that will give the application software something major that the vendors can't get on the mainstream platforms, something that is quickly translateable into sales points for their products. The app vendors have to see AmigaO$ :-) .
Clearly the Amiga userbase will take time to ramp up. Amiga should be doing its utmost to encourage (bribe, blackmail or whatever) some great core third-party software development. This doesn't need to be from Adobe or Macromedia or MS, but it should be best-in-class, or close to it (or "new class" in the sense of being a new product category). It could be the product of a small outfit. The point is, even hardcore fans will stray from the platform if there isn't software to do everyday tasks in a way that is at least on par with the mainstream equivalents.
This could be an opportunity for established Amiga programs to be brought up to date. But I think the OS needs to be fully "modernized" and the apps as well, or else only old-time fans will be satisfied.
I think the majority of the apps for AmigaOS will be "homegrown," coming out of current or former Amiga developers, unless the OS has some really jawdropping qualities. Because these developers are basically individuals or small outfits, Amiga should do its best to coordinate with them.
Sorry for rambling; just some thoughts on the subject ;-) .
-- gary_c
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>Sorry guys, i must admit, i returned to the Pages
>about 6 times the day you posted them, and i still go
> back looking at them now :)
Be their guest, but still their web server reports 47000 unigue visitors (different IP address every time, I think).
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I think all the M$ boyz & girlz checked the Hyperion page out in their lunch break.
[color=FF0000]x303[/color] :-D
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I agree with one of the previous posts. What use is a fantastic OS without killer apps? You don't just boot up your OS to fiddle with the icons and open and close windows - well not for very long anyway. For Amiga to succeed they will need to have some decent applications from the beginning, or at least in the very near future. It's unlikely that we'll get a port of Microsoft Office but we need something of that calibre, or better to make an impact.
I hope that doesn't sound too negative, but as yet I haven't heard any news about what end user software will be available for the A1, apart from the older software that will run under emulation.
The A1 will not succeed, even with a spanking new OS that runs rings around Windows or Max OSX, if it doesn't have a great suite of end user programs.
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Poster: Anonymous Date: 2002/4/24 13:11:10
hehehe..... and every veiwer a potential OS4 buyer
Unless of course it's the MOS crowd filling there pants You're gonna smell them a mile away
Seriously, the number of pepople I know that they say that they will come back! This machine has cult status - its up ther with the likes of starwars. Only A1 is gonna be considerably better than Episode 1.
I just flamed the MOS crowd - I never flame the MOS crowd - I cant usually be bothered . Gentleman - consider this web count to be a sign.... where's Eyeam when you need the dude
EyeAm stirs from sleep, turns over and falls...thud!...and jumps like he was shot
"HUH-what? Somebody call me? It's Amiga, it's in trouble isn't it? WhereWhoHow, I'll beat their--FIFTY THOUSAND VISITORS!!!?"
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"...and you thought I was dreaming." ;-)
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Ok, everybody email nvidia.
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I dont believe BeOS is dead, but alot of BeOS users are looking at or are atleast interested in AmigaOS becaue it looks like it could be their new platform.
The thing is i believe from what ive read and from my own feelings that Be had several problems that Amiga Inc doesnt.
1) Hardware manufactorers. We have many of these and Be hardly new anyone. That is, they found it hard to get their system on any good hardware righ tout of the box. Except the BeBox of course.
2) Software, BeOS started with no software. We already have a lot of software. You all know that.
3) The Name. Be had to create a name for its self, and if did that well within the geek community. However, Amiga has a name of many many people. Including some of which are pretty old and have joined the PC market. However, once marketing starts up and Amiga Inc isin full swing, they will undoubtly become interested and possibly buy one.
So in other words, Amiga Inc isnt starting from scrath. We have the community, we have the software, we have the hardware and we have an execlent OS capable of running as fast of faster then BeOS on the same resources. Amiga Inc has a lot of backing for their project, and with their second income stream (AmigaDE), this will only become stronger with more money put into parterships and more products. :).
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Poster: Rodney Date: 2002/4/25 8:01:19
We have the community, we have the software, we have the hardware and
"Gentleman....we can rebuild her..." (starts the Six Million Dollar Man music) :-D
"...we have the technology..." (inserting AmigaDE)
"..she'll be stronger than before..."
:-P
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WHOA!!! Now that's the best I've seen in a long time!! SweEeEeEeEeEeEeEeet!
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That is good news if is ture!
But realy this should of been on Amiga.com site. I don't know about you but waiting 2 weeks more for these pices so they could of gone on the Amiga's own site wouldn't of been such an issue.
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I am just glad Amiga is finally getting something done with hardware and software period) what a long wait its been... :pint:
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Obviously, alot of people are interested ... :-D
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Quote from Argo:
"cool, NASA can now replace their aging telemetry computers (last I knew they used Amigas for non-manned space probe telemetry)."
Yes, NASA was using Amigas but, according to a friend of mine who is in a position to know, they replaced the Amigas with Sun machines at the end of August last year.
NASA may still be using the Toaster machine in their TV center, however.
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I cannot see what all the fuss is about, whats new?
Transparency, rounded edges, SO WHAT!
Going back 5 years ago with my a4000 tower, picassoIV gfx card i had a nicer looking interface than that....
I'm sorry, but judging by the comments noone has had a hi-spec amiga before, perhaps thats why it went the way it did.. and to claim, 'the Amiga is back', you must have your eyes shut. Sorry, it doesn't cut it for me!