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Title: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 10, 2002, 11:41:27 PM
This just in from Amiga Inc head honcho Bill McEwen...  Rich multi-media applications designed for handheld systems to be released on April 15th, 2002.

April 10, 2002 Snoqualmie, WA - Amiga, Inc. announced the release schedule of the Amiga Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 for Windows Powered Devices. The Entertainment Pack will run on devices using Windows CE 3.0, Windows CE .NET, Pocket PC, and Pocket PC 2002 including handhelds, smart phones, web pads, and set-top boxes.

The Entertainment Pack #1 will contain four applications and the Amiga Anywhere Content Engine.  These include the award winning Planet Zed and Convex games from ZeoNeo as well as Gobbler and Solitaire from Pulsar Interactive.  The Amiga Anywhere Content Engine allows access to more Amiga Anywhere applications available now and in the future.

"Since announcing a change from hardware to software Amiga has strived to create and distribute content that can run on numerous digital devices. Amiga is now focused on the vision that all digital content should be available on all digital devices," said Bill McEwen, President and CEO of Amiga Inc.  "To that end Amiga has announced distribution of dozens of applications that can run on a wide range of different types of devices with hundreds more currently in development".

The Amiga Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 will provide an exciting experience for owners of Windows Powered handheld devices without using the amount of resources consumed by other applications. Amiga developers are creating rich content using few resources.  The average size of an Amiga Anywhere application is under 300KB and yet delivers a more robust experience than titles that are over 2 MB in size."

"As mobile devices become smarter and more powerful, users are asking for rich entertainment and gaming experiences," said Scott Horn, director, Embedded and Appliance Platforms Group, Microsoft Corp.  "The combination of the Windows CE operating system's multimedia functionality and Amiga's software solution allows developers to deliver rich applications for a broad range of Windows Powered devices."

Amiga Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 will ship on April 15, 2002.  More information can be found on the Amiga web site at http://www.amiga-anywhere.com/microsoft.

About Amiga
Amiga Inc. established itself in 1985 as the premier provider of multi-media technologies to the world. Today Amiga continues leading the way in multi-media by providing language independent technologies to developers for writing and porting applications to a new multi-media platform that is
hardware agnostic. Amiga Anywhere, powered with intent(TM) from the Tao Group, enables applications to run unchanged on a broad range of processors
including ARM, StrongARM, Intel X-Scale, OMAP, MIPS, Intel x86, Motorola 68K and Hitachi SH. It can run hosted on a wide variety of operating systems
including Windows CE .NET, Windows 9x, 2000, Windows XP, Linux, and Embedded Linux. AmigaDE Player and applications can be purchased at
www.amiga-anywhere.com. Amiga is based in Snoqualmie, WA, and has offices worldwide. Amiga can be reached at (425) 396-5660 or visit Amiga on the web at www.amiga.com.  Other product or service names mentioned herein are the trademarks of their respective owners.

<> Bill McEwen ><>
President/CEO
Amiga, Inc.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 10, 2002, 11:53:34 PM
Reading this has just made me think, wouldn't it be great if there were an Amiga PDA... it would give the name an identity once again.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 12:19:49 AM
There WAS an Amiga PDA.  It was called the Sharp SL-5500.  Unfortunately even today Sharp apparently denies any connection with Amiga Inc as the device I saw in the store had NO mention of Amiga Incorporated, nor AmigaDE, nor anything else.  It also doesn't come with AmigaDE and according to Sharp's Web site, loading AmigaDE (which *IS* at least available for download on sharp.com) voids your warranty for the device.

I hate to say this, I really do, but considering the painful loss of my Handspring Visor Prism due to theft, I'm beginning to thing that *IF* I decide I need another PDA, I might end up getting a Windows .NET device.  Then again, I'd hate to suffer Windows CE (.NET), just to be able to play a few games.

Later, if Amiga matures (both company and product), I'll sincerely have to consider making a few investments in new hardware.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Chathurawind on April 11, 2002, 12:21:40 AM
This is very good news!
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Chathurawind on April 11, 2002, 12:31:16 AM
Wayne, I would like to know where you get your  info, becouse it's not Amiga's webpage or the AmigaAnywhere webpage! http://www.amiga-anywhere.com/microsoft is a dead link!
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Chathurawind on April 11, 2002, 01:09:52 AM
yup the link wont load for me either...
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 01:13:12 AM
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Wayne, I would like to know where you get your info, becouse it's not Amiga's webpage or the AmigaAnywhere webpage!
A press release sent to the press@lists.amiga.com mailing list from Bill McEwen.  Theoretically it could have been forged, but Bill always said "unless you hear it from me, it ain't so".  I heard it from him, so there ya go.  Security of their mailing lists is not my concern.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Tomas on April 11, 2002, 01:13:52 AM
actually it looks like AmigaINC removed both the link and the press release from the site!! for some really odd reason.  :-?
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: barryum on April 11, 2002, 06:47:32 AM
Wayne, if you haven't already actually tried out the Sharp SL-5500 you should.  I was able to try one out at Office Depot and was quite impressed.   Liked it considerably more than the WinCE machines.

I believe this is the next platform you will see the AA Entertainment Pack for. :-)
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Coder on April 11, 2002, 09:52:10 AM
Hmmm the irony, that Windows Powered Devices are the first were Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 will be available for. Excuse me for not running to the shop and buying a Windows Powered Device. :-D
Coder
 
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: ironfist on April 11, 2002, 09:56:35 AM
The link isn't dead! If you click and look closely you'll see the error in the end of URL. Hint: .

/ironfist
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Coder on April 11, 2002, 01:12:02 PM
It's called AmigaAnywhere but it is only on Windows Powered Devices. ? :-D

Coder
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Elektro on April 11, 2002, 01:37:50 PM
add index.html to get the right page
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Chathurawind on April 11, 2002, 01:38:42 PM
Ahem, you find the web page from here:

http://www.amiga-anywhere.com/microsoft/index.shtml
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Chathurawind on April 11, 2002, 02:29:36 PM
AMIGADE RUNS ON EVERY OS AND MACHINE EXCEPT
ON A REAL AMIGA (AKA AMIGA CLASSIC) !!!!!!!!

 :-x
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Coder on April 11, 2002, 02:37:10 PM
You got a point. I think that REALLY AmigaAnywhere should run on OS4. Would be really bad that AmigaAnywhere runs on everything exept an Amiga. Makes you kind of freak out.

Coder
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 02:37:41 PM
I disagree, I never heard that the Zaurus would be
"an Amiga PDA"; or at least that was never my
understanding. Sharp agreed to let Amiga develop
and demonstrate content on it and that was what
Amiga did.

As the Zaurus runs Linux and there is an
AmigaDE SDK for Linux I don't see any reason why
you can't run AA on a Zaurus.

I think Amiga Inc inflated the 'press value' of
a "partnership" with Sharp and hence all the
disappointment that Sharp doesn't seem to
be backing Amiga Inc.

Anyway, if you don't mind the size and weight of
the Zaurus, it looks like a pretty good PDA to me
with a very good colour screen.

- koan
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 02:41:39 PM
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I believe this is the next platform you will see the AA Entertainment Pack for
It goes back to that whole "not going to spend $500.00 to play a few games" thing.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 02:45:19 PM
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AMIGADE RUNS ON EVERY OS AND MACHINE EXCEPT ON A REAL AMIGA (AKA AMIGA CLASSIC) !!!!!!!!
First, stop shouting you twit.  Secondly, the "Classic Amiga" hasn't been a "real" machine since 1994.  It has been and will remain a hobbyist machine with a dwindling niche market replete with twits who SHOUT their way through incoherent messages.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 02:48:22 PM
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As the Zaurus runs Linux and there is an AmigaDE SDK for Linux I don't see any reason why
you can't run AA on a Zaurus.
Reason #1 -- Because if you do, you void the warranty for the DEVICE.  Besides, there's nothing available for AA except games yet, so what's the point of spending $500 for a Gameboy?
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Coder on April 11, 2002, 02:54:58 PM
Hi wayne,

But you do agree that AmigaAnywhere should run on OS4, rigth? That is not classic anymore, but really fast hardware/software.

Coder
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Ivan on April 11, 2002, 05:09:11 PM
>But you do agree that AmigaAnywhere should run on OS4, rigth? That is not classic anymore, but really fast hardware/software.

It will run in AmigaOS. Just in version 4.2 (unless im mistaken.) It will be a part of the OS, integrated within the OS and not just a player that runs under the OS. Better solution imho, but will take time no doubt and so its a planned feature of 4.2.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: AmiGod on April 11, 2002, 05:10:41 PM
>AMIGADE RUNS ON EVERY OS AND MACHINE EXCEPT
>ON A REAL AMIGA (AKA AMIGA CLASSIC) !!!!!!!!

Hello anonymous hysterical person,

Just so you know, it also doesn't run on Macs yet, and while we Amiga users comprise less than half a percentage point in the computer market, Mac users comprise 6%.

What does this mean?  It means calm down, take a deep breath, and relax.  Or run to your panic room.  DE will come when it comes, and there's nothing we Amigans can do about it but wait patiently.

And look at it this way: By the time we get DE on our Amigas, it'll be a mature, fully-functional OS with a few extra bells and whistles.

AmiGod
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: redrumloa on April 11, 2002, 05:18:19 PM
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But you do agree that AmigaAnywhere should run on OS4, rigth? That is not classic anymore, but really fast hardware/software.


I think it *SHOULD*, but it won't. IIRC there is no VP for PPC yet. And I'm willing to bet DE/AA whatever will hit Mac PPC way before Amiga PPC. IIRC Amiga's plans are DE on OS5.0 but no sooner. A little ass backwards but such is life. AA is still a 90% Tao product.

Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 06:12:42 PM
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But you do agree that AmigaAnywhere should run on OS4, rigth? That is not classic anymore, but really fast hardware/software.

I agree that at some mystical point you should be able to run AmigaWhatever on an Amiga computer.  That being said, I completely disagree with any notion that a 600Mhz G3 is fast hardware.

Just so you know, we're "lightly" considering forming a company to take AmigaOne boards and pop 1 Ghz G3's / G4's on them.  Then we'd take'm, test'm and sell them personally configured for each customer in a Dell-type fashion.  Any interest?
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Skyraker on April 11, 2002, 06:33:35 PM
Can someone tell me exactly what .NET is ?

Ta very much

Skyraker.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: redrumloa on April 11, 2002, 06:41:50 PM
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Just so you know, we're "lightly" considering forming a company to take AmigaOne boards and pop 1 Ghz G3's / G4's on them. Then we'd take'm, test'm and sell them personally configured for each customer in a Dell-type fashion. Any interest?


Special order from Eyetech with no CPU and then you'd solder your own in? There would be TONS of interest in this! Oh hell yeah! If you could pull it off, go for it!!
 :-o
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Coder on April 11, 2002, 07:21:08 PM
Hi Wayne,

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Just so you know, we're "lightly" considering forming a company to take AmigaOne boards and pop 1 Ghz G3's / G4's on them. Then we'd take'm, test'm and sell them personally configured for each customer in a Dell-type fashion. Any interest?


Seems very interesting. How is this all going to be?

Coder
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: AmiGod on April 11, 2002, 07:32:28 PM
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Just so you know, we're "lightly" considering forming a company to take AmigaOne boards and pop 1 Ghz G3's / G4's on them. Then we'd take'm, test'm and sell them personally configured for each customer in a Dell-type fashion. Any interest?


Hey Wayne,

Alright, you caught my attention.  If an A1 board can be fitted with a 1 GHz+ G4 PPC chip, and work, then I'd be interested.  Although I would take any G4 PPC processor that is equal to or faster than 700 MHz.

But a 1 GHz AmigaOne  from the start would be an excellent way to restart the Amiga market.  I'm sure it would impress many nay-sayers out there as well.  And it might even force Eyetech's hand into bypassing the 700 MHz G4 and going directly to the GHz as well.

From 68060/50 MHz to G4 1 GHz in one fell swoop.  I like the sound of that.

Just say 'when', Wayne, just say 'when'.

AmiGod

P.S. Right about now, I wish a drooling smiley existed. :)
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 08:00:47 PM
Wayne, I will let you sell your A1-G4 systems on my webpage free of any charge, but you will need to fill the orders.
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: SlimJim on April 11, 2002, 08:21:57 PM
> Just so you know, we're "lightly" considering
> forming a company to take AmigaOne boards and pop
> 1 Ghz G3's / G4's on them. Then we'd take'm, test'm
> and sell them personally configured for each customer
> in a Dell-type fashion. Any interest?

While it is good with new ideas and people willing
to take initiatives, It strikes me as somewhat
...naïve... to think that Eyetech wouldn't have done
this if it was echonomically viable (and as easy as just
'popping' on a new CPU).

 I like fast computers as much as the next man, but I
think this just makes one point come blatantly clear:
 No matter what AmigaInc (and lisencees) do, it will
NEVER be good enough for us.
.
SlimJim
Title: 1+ Gigahertz AmigaOne motherboard interest
Post by: System on April 11, 2002, 10:48:45 PM
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While it is good with new ideas and people willing to take initiatives, It strikes me as somewhat
...naïve... to think that Eyetech wouldn't have done
this if it was echonomically viable (and as easy as just 'popping' on a new CPU).
There are a lot of things which haven't been considered.  First and foremost is that they're doing all this in England.  While I don't cast disparity against England at ALL, I  *might* be in a position which makes things available much cheaper than it costs to produce in England.  

All of this is unknown, which is why it's being "lightly considered" folks.  Keep it in context here.  I'm more than willing to invest a few bucks in an AmigaOne mobo, then solder off the chip and smack on a socket for testing..  I have absolutely no idea whether it will work or not, but I've got enough friends with EE degress and experience building motherboards for a living that I believe it's worth a shot.

.... And I never said it would be less expensive than the 600 soldered part but which would you rather do?  $550 for a 600mhz part, or a bit less for a socketed part you can put your own CPU in/on?

Naive?  Possibly, hell, more than probably, but then again it can't be any more naive than ahem...  building a company to continue a computer based on getting money from investors in an economy which was bound to hiccup.
Title: Re: 1+ Gigahertz AmigaOne motherboard interest
Post by: redrumloa on April 12, 2002, 05:25:30 AM
So I wasn't the only one thinking about desoldering the
600Mhz CPU and replacing it with a faster one:-)

Wayne I'll say it again, if you can pull this off,
you have a decent business plan. Go for it!
Title: Re: 1+ Gigahertz AmigaOne motherboard interest
Post by: Chathurawind on April 12, 2002, 05:47:00 AM
Hey there Wayne-

Were you thinking about overclocking an existing CPU to get your 1 Ghz?
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: Seehund on April 12, 2002, 06:52:05 AM
Wayne wrote:
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Reason #1 -- Because if you do, you void the warranty for the DEVICE.
I think that the warranty issue only applies if you replace Linux with another OS like Tao's intent (there is no Amiga DE... yet). The Software Previously Known As Amiga DE Player (now AA) is just another Linux application as far as the Zaurus is concerned and it shouldn't affect your warranty.
Title: Re: 1+ Gigahertz AmigaOne motherboard interest
Post by: Seehund on April 12, 2002, 07:20:01 AM
Wayne wrote:
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There are a lot of things which haven't been considered. First and foremost is that they're doing all this in England.
No, they're doing all this in Taiwan. Besides, I reckon low volume production costs in the UK wouldn't be much worse than in the US (which is where I assume you'd be working on this).

Quote
Keep it in context here. I'm more than willing to invest a few bucks in an AmigaOne mobo, then solder off the chip and smack on a socket for testing..
A TeronCX from MAI without CPU for less than US$300 would be cheaper to experiment with. Also, it'd be interesting to investigate the degree of OS4 compatibility with these boards.

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.... And I never said it would be less expensive than the 600 soldered part but which would you rather do? $550 for a 600mhz part, or a bit less for a socketed part you can put your own CPU in/on?
The latter. No doubt about it. OTOH, it might be cheaper to simply buy socketed boards from the manufacturer.

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Naive? Possibly, hell, more than probably, but then again it can't be any more naive than ahem... building a company to continue a computer based on getting money from investors in an economy which was bound to hiccup.
Heh! :D
Title: Re: 1+ Gigahertz AmigaOne motherboard interest
Post by: AmiGod on April 12, 2002, 04:55:32 PM
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Were you thinking about overclocking an existing CPU to get your 1 Ghz?


Hi Anonymous Person,

I doubt Wayne would sell A1s with overclocked processors.  The 1 GHz G4 exists.  Check out the new PowerMacs as proof.  If Apple can do it without overclocking, so can Wayne.  It would just cost a bit more for the standard 1 GHz processor than it would for an overclocked 800 MHz processor.  Especially with Apple hogging the chip.

Although you do bring forth a valid discussion point.  I wonder what the overclocking limits on Eyetech's current batch of A1s will be.

AmiGod
Title: Re: Amiga® Anywhere Entertainment Pack #1 pending release
Post by: System on April 16, 2002, 09:07:00 PM
Getting back to the original topic...

As an owner (and still user of an A4000), and an earlier purchaser of the AmigaDE SDK, and an IPAQ Pocket PC, I have been eagerly awaiting a player in some form for the IPAQ.

Well it's the 16th April and I still can't order this from the site.  This announcement has begun to appear on several PocketPC sites and people are commenting in the following ways:

1) OK where is it - the link is broke!
2) Why no demo version ?
3) It's Amiga in name only.

Point (2) is extremely valid.  I have tried and bought many PPC apps.  In every case there has always been a cut down version to try before buying.  Without a version to try, Amiga are gonna lose customers.  At the same time I can undesrtand the difficulty.  It would be easy to create a demo version of the games in the pack but what about the Amiga player itself ?  Any demo of the player would be open to a hack.

Piracy helped to kill Amiga products lets hope it doesn't kill AmigaAnywhere before it is anywhere.