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Title: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: bloodline on April 04, 2002, 04:09:39 AM
I've added a Feature Request page on my site: Matt's AROS website (www.ahsodit.com/aros/index.html)
My new page allows users to vote for the feature they most want to see in AROS as soon as possible. This will allow the dev team to focus on what you, the users, actually want!!



Note, this new page is a bit of an experiment and might suffer from lots of problems.

Even if you don't care about AROS, please take some time to vote.

Thanks



I just want to highlight a comment by Fabio:

To develop a basic workbench at this time !!!WILL!!! slow development of low level things like drivers and stuff.

But this is to test the AROS community priorities, and see what they feel is important.


Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 04, 2002, 05:10:14 AM
AROS is so incredibly cool. It must be the coolest open source OS there is. Screw linux. Go AROS!

;)

- Paul
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 04, 2002, 08:56:06 AM
I dont know about features i would requiest. But as far as functionality goes, i would recomend they put all their skills behind getting AROS ready for Native Compilation and stableisation of a native-standalone-x86 OS!!!

That is, i dont think we can get a standalone x86 binary for it, besides the floppies!!

The closest you get to a full distro is the KDE snapshot, right? - That just isnt good enough.

Infact now i have thought of some stuff they could do :) - provide a Birdie type thing and Magic Menu type and integrate that into AROS/intuition! :)

But yer, Kernel + prepackaged utils would be nice. Plus an easy install!
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Rodney on April 04, 2002, 03:56:21 PM
Just wanted to say i voted for WorkBench!

However, i voted for workbench not because it makes AROS more usable (well part of that :)) - but i think it would be most benifitial.

That is, a workbench will lueur users. ATM you got dos on a disk, which isnt really interesting. When we have ta GUI to play with, Sorry, workbench, it will possibly attract users and hopfuly developers. More developers is always cool :).

On the poll page they mention improving workbench will be done later. I hope they work on something similar to AmigaOS. That is integrate a magic menu and birdie type system into it intuition (or whatever GUI library they use)!!!

Would be so purdy... But the point is, Workbench will make it look like a more complete OS!! - which will luerer people looking for that alternate OS.

Also, there needs to be an easy way to install AROS on you x86 HDD!!!
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Coder on April 04, 2002, 05:32:31 PM
Considering the situation with Amithlon, do we have to fear for something like that also with Aros?

Coder
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: 4pLaY on April 04, 2002, 07:18:44 PM
I seriously doubt that but if Amiga inc does something so foolish im confident the Aros dudes will remove/change whatever it is they can claim is ilegall with Aros.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 04, 2002, 08:07:41 PM
you are so right 4play
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: bloodline on April 04, 2002, 09:04:10 PM
IT would like to point out that we use a near perfect intuition clone for our GUI (and we have ZUNE a MUI Clone as a GUI manager).

Magic Menu would be pointless as our menus already have Magic menu features (have you not tried AROS?!?!?). Run Multiview and press the right mouse button!!!!

Don't panic, I'm working on a simple harddrive installer now. I just have to wait for "Basti" to finish getting harddrive support perfect.
I do actually have a computer setup with AROS on it's hard drive as the machines' only OS, here right now. It does work but still needs to be tweeked.

We have an Assembler which can be used to develop software within AROS right now!! all that is needed is to stick a C compiler on it and we will have a C development system. This may take some time though... :-)

The Amithlon situation cannot happen to us, we have NO source code from AmigaOS in our system, every thing has been coded from scratch to work the same way as AmigaOS. :-)
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: bloodline on April 04, 2002, 09:10:49 PM
By the way, if you want a full x86 native distro (ie not the current floppy one), then why not download the CD iso version?

But agreed that without the finished Nvidia drivers it's not very useful, but it is fun to play with.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 05, 2002, 02:12:02 AM
Hmmm...... Morphos, AmigaOS, Aros....... I wonder. Aros has been bubbling along relativly quietly, doing stuff... - not flaming up like the MOS community.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 05, 2002, 02:14:43 AM
Aros? could it be the unsung hero - the defender of the crown if you will (to be devils advocate :-P ) Coming out of the shadows to claim king?


Dont worry - I'll be getting my A1 with OS4 :-D
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: bloodline on April 05, 2002, 03:25:25 AM
Without AROS both AOS4 and MOS would not have been possible. At least not within the time frame in which they are currently developing.

Both projects use/will use AROS code.

AROS code is free and open source.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 05, 2002, 05:27:56 AM
AOS4/ MOS use bits from AROS? Are you sure? If thats true, it would be nice to see DE run on AROS, since concievably you could then write a lot of the OS over in DE for it. Binary Compatible OS...never thought it would be coming.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 05, 2002, 01:19:01 PM
first : http://www.google.com/search?q=aros+morphos&hl=fr&meta=  (you knew it, isn't it ?)
second : http://aros.sourceforge.net/faq.html#1.18

Always make a security test first !

Amiga-De only runs (at this time) on WINDOWS.
Everyone with a brain knows that it is a mess.
(the linux version is for rh6.2, you know that the kernel changed several times from that one ?)

AROS, morphos (by extention) are the Royal Way.
AROS with its Hardware Layer System.
MorphOS with its ROM-modules.

Yeah ! Keep on' AROS, keep on' MorphOS
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Chathurawind on April 05, 2002, 01:27:15 PM
Just dont flame up with MOS spite.... thats all we ask.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: bloodline on April 05, 2002, 08:26:12 PM
Why would the AROS team flame?

MOS and AOS4 are commercial projects, and they are compeating in the same market. They are always going to be at a head with each other.

AROS is a free open source project, which we do for the benefit of anybody who wishes to use it.
We have no hidden agenda, and wish both the MOS and AOS4 projects every success.

I would like to add that we have looked into porting AROS to AmigaDE (Tao Elate), while such a system should be possible there are quite a few "hardware" related issues which need to addressed. The most important of these is that for AROS to task switch, it needs to directly access the CPU regs... apprently quite difficult on the Elate VP.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Coder on April 05, 2002, 11:22:50 PM
Hi bloodline,

You are doing a great job on Aros. It is a great project. Keep up the work. Nice to see someone of the Aros team here.

Coder
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Rodney on April 06, 2002, 06:17:23 AM
Bloody <-- if i can call you that :)...

The CD iso was made out to be dangerous on the website... Like, hrmm... cant remember what it said... but i didnt like the sound of it...

With the ISO does that contain the filesystem and everthing on it? - Sounds good, but yer, i dont think i'd be able to do much with out a workbench...

Nice to hear you have MUI like functionalities in the menu! But a workbench i think would attract more users and when people start to see a workbench in screen shots, more and more people will have a lookse at it, which i think will attract users.

Do you plan on making your system POSIX compliant? Or atleast be able to compile POSIX apps?

Will it also be possible to compile somthing like BASH and be able to use different shells?

I also like the addition of the multiuser file system :) - very very nice adition. Hrmm, will AROS be multiuser like Unix?

Do you plan on implimenting many other Unix features (like the multiuser file system) in AROS? In other words, steal ideas :), which is always good!!! - windows has made lotsa money out of it!
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: bhoggett on April 08, 2002, 08:23:37 AM
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I seriously doubt that but if Amiga inc does something so foolish im confident the Aros dudes will remove/change whatever it is they can claim is ilegall with Aros.


(OT) Folks, please stop blaming Amiga Inc for the Amithlon situation.  The fault for that must be placed 100% at the door of Haage & Partner, who are STILL distributing it despite being told to stop by the author, and who are STILL claiming it is a fully licensed product despite admitting that they have not signed a license deal with Amiga Inc.
Title: Re: AROS Feature Request Page Added
Post by: Coder on April 08, 2002, 10:39:21 AM
Just as bhoggett I place the fault at Haage & Partner. They are the ones to blame. I did not see them coming out with a reply on this situation.

Coder