Amiga.org

Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: AmiGod on March 26, 2002, 03:03:14 AM

Title: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: AmiGod on March 26, 2002, 03:03:14 AM
Bill McEwen has posted a new Executive Update on Amiga's web site.  A rather long one at that.  Happy reading!

http://www.amiga.com/corporate/032502-mcewen.shtml


Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: JetFireDX on March 26, 2002, 03:09:19 AM
It all sounds really really good...It's getting tempting as hell to get an A1/OS4 with or without the ability to upgrade the CPU later.

Can we see some actual screen shots of OS4 soon, please! I think everybody needs and wants something to drool over for a few months.  :-D (The video of Bill showing off Amiga Anywhere was sweet)
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Tomas on March 26, 2002, 03:35:41 AM
This really sounds good!!! I really hope os4.0 will be done soon, so i can order the amigaONE board :D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: System on March 26, 2002, 03:51:51 AM
The mos trashing AOS4 argument is sounding more like crap every day :)

nice to see a PPC MUI for all those apps that need it ( too many if you ask me ! ) and a PPC ibrowse 2.3 SWEET!

The JIT is looking very fast as well :D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on March 26, 2002, 04:01:24 AM
Man - stuff is definatly getting exciting!!!  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :pint:  :pint:  :pint:  :-D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on March 26, 2002, 04:02:59 AM
That PPC Ibrowse - hopefully it'll have the features of a modern browser!! A decent browser is king.
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: DarkHawke on March 26, 2002, 04:16:29 AM
I suppose the best thing about this EU was that it was SO extensive!  Tons of information and that's a damn nice thing to see given how sporadic and information-free these things have been in the past.  Lots of red meat for the still hanging on Amigans, but for ex-patriates like myself, I'm still left a little wanting.  

Again we hear about the wondrous day when Amiga Anywhere (nee DE) will merge with the desktop Amiga OS in OS 5, thus ushering in the Millennium! :-)  But what does this really mean?  Just that you can run AA apps on Amiga hardware?  Seems to me that should happen as soon as OS 4.0 (mercilessly chained to the Amiga One!) comes out.  I can run AA apps on the 'Doze box I'm using right now, so that at least SHOULDN'T be what the great "code merge" means.  Or does this mean what I and many others would like it to mean?  That is, that instead of AA becoming a subset of Amiga OS (which it should already be), Amiga OS is enabled by AA code to shrug off the surly bonds of hardware dependance and goes worldwide, on any platform of any size and at optimal speed, power and efficiency.  To truly make manifest the new slogan "Amiga Anywhere!"

Pipedream?  Possibly, but consider: the Amiga OS 4/Amiga One combo consolidates and solidifies the Amiga faithful, while at the same time AA gets a foothold in the mass computing market (i.e. Windoze).  Unifying the codes forces the current Amiga market to migrate apps to the now  hardware independant OS, leveraging that market.  Coders in the non-Amiga computing world who like working with AA now find that this cute environment for small games and PDA-caliber apps is a full-blown OS that'll run their big-time apps without a lick of change on ANY computer!  We have seen, courtesy Mr. McEwen himself, that AA is OS/hardware independant in a real-time/real world senario.  I'm still blown away by this possibility and I hope that plenty of other folks are as well!

And to those still wedded to a hardware-bound Amiga OS solution, until I read something more definitive from the man himself, I'm still gonna wax hopeful for this senario.  Seems at least as viable an idea as the Amiga One did this time last year! :-D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: AndyC on March 26, 2002, 04:21:06 AM
Brilliant news...

I will be buying one asap!

Screenshots of AOS4 would be nice too!

:pint::pint::pint::pint::pint::pint::pint::pint::pint:

Cheers,
AndyC
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Tomas on March 26, 2002, 04:37:23 AM
I think i will take a beer too:-D   :pint:  
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Argo on March 26, 2002, 05:00:24 AM
"Future so bright, I gotta wear shades..."

Now I really have to get an AmigaOne.
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Elektro on March 26, 2002, 05:03:09 AM
SETTLE DOWN!!! YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!

:hammer:


 :-D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Dr_Righteous on March 26, 2002, 05:41:49 AM
HFS!!! I'd say all delays are forgiven at this point! They're actually gonna give us almost everything we need up front! OS4 has gone NUCLEAR!
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Blackbeard on March 26, 2002, 07:47:56 AM
It's getting so hard to wait I'm almost peeing my pants! This is the best news update for ages...lots of detail and an exciting vision of what's coming in the future. OS 5 should be a bitchin' system, but OS 4 sounds pretty good too! I gotta have one soon!!!  :roll:
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Chathurawind on March 26, 2002, 08:56:10 AM
wow... just wow :)...

What can i say except im pretty excited. Things just dont look good. They look greate.

Personaly, i think we owe a lot of gratitude to Amiga Inc for having the insight to see the path, and realise the DE will be a huge success and will help AmigaOS become the future in Operating Systems.

Im not saying their there the future tomrrow, but soon enough. After version 5, things are going to be a hell of a lot different!

Time will tell indeed...

wow....
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: whabang on March 26, 2002, 09:09:00 AM
I sures is gonna getta onna of theesa! :-P

Cheers! :pint:
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: JetFireDX on March 26, 2002, 10:44:04 AM
Anybody know who's audio chip is in the A1? I have seen plenty of "all in one" solution x86 boards with a CMedia CMI8738 audio chip in them, which is the same chip I have on my $15 sound card right now. (not bad for what I paid, and it has front, back, center and sub channels). If its the same chip, I can already use my sound card in an A1! (cuz I doubt that the A1 has 3 stereo-out jacks for surround sound as well as the mic and line in jacks.)

Cool none the less...its got good things on board that you don't have to worry about working with OS4 cuz its specifically designed for the board. Very sweet indeed.
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: SlimJim on March 26, 2002, 12:29:55 PM
Very impressive.
 Didn't know that bit about IBrowse, MUI and the
font stuff. Good to see a comprehensive recapitulation
of what's up. And from the parent company
nontheless! Considering the opening sentences of the executive
update, Amiga is indeed skimming the community comments and
listening intently. If you see this guys, you should know
you have my full support for your current strategy!
.
SlimJim
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: scorchio on March 26, 2002, 01:46:10 PM
Positive news = positive steps...

Thank God things are going in the right direction...all it needs now are people to put money money where their mouth is...

Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Housey on March 26, 2002, 02:04:37 PM
Excellent News!

The updates are getting better & better!!

CHEERS GUYS!  :pint:
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Prmetime on March 26, 2002, 02:20:46 PM
I think this is some of the best news we have heard in a long, long time.  While I too would like to see the Amiga OS become totally hardware independant, I suppose we have to wait for a bit.  After all, Rome wasn't built in a day.
   However, all the news about the improvements in the software is encouraging.  I have always liked IBrowse.  If it is updated with modern features, that is a big bonus.  I must admit my skeptecism regarding the rebirth of the Amiga is starting to fall away.  
  The hardware support is also encouraging.  Legacy support for the floppy drives but more importantly, SCSI which I still think is a better system though it will go away on grounds of cost.  The addition of USB, an integrated TCP/IP stack for modems and ethernet cards, and PCI /AGP slots are beautiful things.  It looks like we may have finally turned the corner.
   
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: System on March 26, 2002, 02:32:29 PM
Those hardware specs are starting to look decidedly last year. What about G5 / USB 2 / 4x AGP etc?


Quote
With the world economy starting to move out of recession...


eh? I thought we were just getting into one :-?


Quote
In effect, the A1200 will be like just another graphics card plugged into the PCI bus of the AmigaOne.


cool  :-D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Cerpheus on March 26, 2002, 02:32:33 PM
 :-o  hope people get not drank here.  ;-) But indeed great news, cant await it to see it working!
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: redrumloa on March 26, 2002, 02:42:07 PM
What can I say but COOL :-D  My only concern is when I can download the first beta of OS4.0 for my AmigaOne board. Buggy as hell or not, I want to be able to use it ASAP.  :pint:
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Prmetime on March 26, 2002, 03:00:25 PM
Adasha, it may not be cutting edge but it is enough to do everything you want to do.  It is far more cutting edge than my old A3000, which continues to do most of what I want it to do.  Once they get money from sales of the low cost A1.5 G3 motherboard, they can invest the money to design/build more current hardware.  Have a little faith man!
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Allen on March 26, 2002, 04:45:51 PM
If I was a swearing man then I would probablly say HFS too!!

I don't think I have ever had a week like this!

What with BB2 and a new version of BlizKick minutes later!  Now MUI PPC and IBrowse 2.3...ARGH!!!!!!  Stop!!!!!!

Ten years of waiting...HFS.


:) :) :)

Allen
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: System on March 26, 2002, 04:51:06 PM
Well, I'll be damned...
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: System on March 26, 2002, 07:45:58 PM
This is pretty encouraging. I wasn't thinking of getting one, but the details in this update are tantalising enough to tempt me.
All we need now are some decent apps to go with the decent OS and we'll have something worth shouting about again.
What apps will be available for the new OS? We need an office suite at the very least, some gfx software would be nice too. What else?
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: System on March 26, 2002, 09:20:32 PM
More good news from the amiga boys!
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Chathurawind on March 26, 2002, 09:39:12 PM
man, this thing is sounding better and better....  ( maybe i'm just drunk? )

i'm fed up with os's that require enormous amounts of resources to do basic stuff...

right now i'm on my ibook ( g3@600mhz - same as Aone.5) and macos9 DOES get a little slow sometimes... I can't for the life of me understand how an OS can make up 3-400 Mb!?!?! ( yeah, yeah, win2000 is approx. 1 Gb - but that's just bloatware!... maybe i'm just drunk? )

I want a simple OS that doesn't take up ALL of my harddrive and that I can fix IF it crashes or burns!!!... maybe i'm just drunk?

-phloe ( hey! I AM drunk!! )
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: DarkHawke on March 27, 2002, 05:30:22 AM
Quote
Those hardware specs are starting to look decidedly last year. What about G5 / USB 2 / 4x AGP etc?

There you are, Adasha.  A big part of the problem is that there hasn't been new Amiga hardware production in over eight years, but perhaps as big a problem is that for a small manufacturing run, trade-offs must be made between the computer employing cutting-edge tech and not costing a fortune.  Clearly all involved are doing the best that they can, and there is the further difficulty of allowing for a fairly generous amound of legacy hardware support.  Remember the uproar in the Mac world when the first iMacs eliminated all legacy hardware ports?  Imagine what would happen if the same course was taken with the A1!  It'd take a nuke going off to surpass the sound of the screams of protest from the die-hard Amigans! :-D

I've yet to hear any prices attached to the A1, so we'll have to see how well they were able to balance all of the above concerns, but if you truly want to see bleeding-edge tech AND an Amiga OS to run them, join me in cross-fingered hope for OS 5!

Quote
Quote:
With the world economy starting to move out of recession...

eh? I thought we were just getting into one

Yep, we are getting out of it, if the slowdown was even enough to technically be called a recession.  It'll take a bit, but the comeback is on (curiously, just as it FINALLY looks like Amiga is coming back.  Coincidence?).
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: JetFireDX on March 27, 2002, 08:36:58 AM
Uh, I dunno where you are all from, but here in Washington it defidantly feels like a recession, not a "slow down". :-(
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: System on March 27, 2002, 02:08:44 PM
oh good, if the recession's ending maybe I'll get my pay rise, so then I can buy an A1 anyway!!! :-)

I'm not fussed about the specs myself -  I'm still using an expanded CD-32 for amiga things - but what will non-amigans thing of it?
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: redrumloa on March 27, 2002, 02:10:41 PM
Here in south Florida I know quite a few people struggling. Myself, I happen to be fortunate enough to work in a field that has nothing at all to do with tech companies. My job is always pretty secure.
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: redrumloa on March 27, 2002, 02:14:14 PM
I know several people who are mostly computer illiterate who seem very intrigued by the AmigaOne.
They may not be computer gurus, but they know something's wrong with Windows when the BSOD pops up every other minute.

 :-D
Title: Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
Post by: Seehund on March 27, 2002, 11:06:51 PM
redrumloa wrote:

> I know several people who are mostly computer
> illiterate who seem very intrigued by the AmigaOne.

I don't know any such people personally, but I see them all the time on Amiga news sites and forums...

Just kidding! ;)
Well, not entirely. It's just another PPC board for flux' sake, but some people run around blinded by euphoria like it's a miracle which Eyetech designed in their Olympian abode, and in their great mercy they decided to deliver it to "the community". It's all good, but I wish some people would stop acting as if we're seeing the Second Coming of Miner/Christ.
What's really intriguing, IMHO, is that an updated Amiga OS is coming our way, and it will run on PPC mobos.