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Title: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE .NET-Based Devices
Post by: Kees on March 14, 2002, 09:03:25 AM
Amiga Games and Productivity Applications Will Target Windows CE .NET (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/escsf02/docs/amiga.doc)

San Francisco, CA - March 12, 2002 - Amiga, Inc. announced the release and distribution of Amiga applications targeted at the Microsoft Windows CE .NET operating system. The applications will run on any of the range of Windows CE .NET-based devices including handhelds, smart phones, web pads, and set-top boxes.

Amiga has a rich history of gaming and multimedia and has been delivering rich, compelling applications since 1985. The new breed of Amiga applications have been written to run on the entire range of Windows Powered products including PDA’s, Cell Phones, and Set Top Boxes.  Amiga provides a middleware portability layer, which allows Amiga applications to be written once and run across a range of Windows Powered devices without change. More than 100 applications will be made available initially and many more are being created by Amiga developers worldwide.
 
“We are pleased to be able to deliver content that is optimized to run on the Windows CE .NET Platform”, said Bill McEwen President/CEO of Amiga Inc. “Amiga developers are world renowned for their abilities to create amazing multimedia content with a small footprint. This gives us the ability to deliver a robust and exciting experience for even the smallest devices.”

“As the number and variety of small- footprint and mobile Windows Powered devices continues to grow, ISVs want to ensure that their applications are able to run on as many of these different devices as possible,” said Keith White, senior director of marketing for the Embedded and Appliance Platforms Group at Microsoft Corp.  “Amiga Anywhere enables application developers to easily take advantage of the rich application and multimedia support in Windows CE .NET to write gaming applications that will run on a broad range of smart Windows Powered devices.”

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Amiga provides content for Windows CE.Net Devices - Page 2

Amiga for Windows Powered Products is expected to ship in April this year.  More information can be found on the Amiga Anywhere web site at http://www.amiga-anywhere.com/.
About Amiga
Amiga Inc. established itself in 1985 as the premier provider of multi-media technologies to the world. Today Amiga continues leading the way in multi-media by providing language independent technologies to developers for writing and porting applications to a new multi-media platform that is hardware agnostic. Amiga Anywhere, powered with intent(TM) from the Tao Group, enables applications to run unchanged on a broad range of processors including ARM, StrongARM, Intel X-Scale, OMAP, MIPS, Intel x86, Motorola 68K and Hitachi SH. It can run hosted on a wide variety of operating systems including Windows CE .NET, Windows 9x, 2000, Windows XP, Linux, and Embedded Linux. AmigaDE Player and applications can be purchased at www.amiga-anywhere.com. Amiga is based in Snoqualmie, WA, and has offices worldwide. Amiga can be reached at (425) 396-5660 or visit Amiga on the web at www.amiga.com.
Other product or service names mentioned herein are the trademarks of their respective owners.


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Source: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/escsf02/material.asp
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Kees on March 14, 2002, 09:09:42 AM
Im starting to see 'amiga everywhere' ...

:-)
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: DarkHawke on March 14, 2002, 09:22:42 AM
Uh-oh!  I can only begin to imagine the crash of anti-Micro$oft hysteria THIS is gonna incite!  I'd love to believe that most folks here will see this as the opening sortie in the Amiga offensive AGAINST Micro$oft's dominance in the computer world, but then, I know better.   :-D   Go on, you great folks at Amiga, Inc.!  Storm the Gates!!!
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Rodney on March 14, 2002, 09:27:24 AM
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provides a middleware portability layer, which allows Amiga applications to be written once and run across a range of Windows Powered devices without change.


What the hell is this? If this is the DE, it shoul say, "written once and run across a range of devices with out change"

NOT Windows Powered devices!!!

PLEASE EXPLAIN - im starting to go nuts!!!

breath pods breath...
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Kees on March 14, 2002, 09:37:08 AM
The AmigaDEplayer - Amiga Anywhere needs windows or linux as a host remember ....
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Seehund on March 14, 2002, 09:39:04 AM
It's because it's on a Microsoft site. Other platforms are irrelevant. Please don't go insane like the rest of the "community" seems to become.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: pteppic on March 14, 2002, 09:39:27 AM
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What the hell is this? If this is the DE, it shoul say, "written once and run across a range of devices with out change"


I wouldn't worry about that, its just a press release for typical MS users.  We know better don't we :)

pt.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Chathurawind on March 14, 2002, 09:39:32 AM
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What the hell is this? If this is the DE, it shoul say, "written once and run across a range of devices with out change"


Try to read the URL of that document and guess...  :-P

Personally, I think it is WAY FRIGGIN' COOL!
So far none of Amigas "partners" wich have released products with AmigaDE have even mentioned Amiga as far as I know.
I belive that everyone can benefit from a system like AmigaDE, even Microsoft.
M$ could easily run their so called software on almost any OS and computer. And people don't have to use Windows to be compatible anymore. Even if M$ will loose some windows customers, they will reach out to more people with their apps. ( And, yes... I DO think explorer is a good browser.)
I mean M$ won't just go away beacuse one says so. But perhaps they will get a little closer to "the good side" if they get some serious competition. (AmigaDE on Mac and I'll throw my PC out of the window:-D  )...
This is how things are, we can't make it go away, we can just make a little better...
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Chathurawind on March 14, 2002, 10:12:13 AM
There is a rumor about DOT NET virtual machine on top of INTENT / AMIGA DE VP, similar to JAVA VM on top of VP. Perhaps it will be possible to translate DOT NET programs to VP bytecode.

Another way is also possible: writing VP translator for DOT NET virtual machine.

Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Bezzen on March 14, 2002, 10:29:52 AM
Eventhough the name Microsoft isn't very soothing I think this is really good news. :)

Let's hope I'm right, (which would probably be for the first time)

 :-D
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Rodney on March 14, 2002, 02:06:45 PM
I thought they may have brang out another product that we'd all have to get used too :)...

Ok im calm now...

However, why dont MS do their own in .NET???

Its similar technology to theirs... maybe its the same? Why else would they develop content for the MS in DE?
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: redrumloa on March 14, 2002, 02:13:10 PM
Yeah this press release isn't so bad! Extra revenue and exposure for Amiga Inc. So Amiga Inc may have been in bed with M$, but it doesn't look like they bumped uglies. :lol:
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Will on March 14, 2002, 03:04:09 PM
nOMAAM,

How did you find this article?It seems to be buried really deeply.

(It doesn't seem to turn up in a search of their site although we do get a nice mention in their press release about the Microsoft Press dictionary. Amiga is referred to specifically as being historically important, alongside 286's. Er, actually, is that a compliment!!!!)
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on March 14, 2002, 03:12:42 PM
Hahaha........ I think that this is pretty good News. In a recent interview om BBC Newsround (news show - aimed at children) a girl griiled Gates, and he turned around and said that he didnt think MS would last forever, that they will eventually go bust, because the face of computing will change... maybe he heard about DE - sorry AA!

They've invested a load of cash into Apple - obviously so they can say "hey, were competative" Apple has gained grounds! Such an investment in Amiga will also help it along! MS is on the way out - there gonna become like IBM, omnipotent, massive, owning lots of different things - but not actually doing anything. They'll just sit back, let there folio of companies do there thing, and rake the money in. Computing is dead, long live computing...
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Chathurawind on March 14, 2002, 03:33:24 PM
After seing the techtv clip and now this :)

Now im starting to belive something is actually is happening  :-D
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: System on March 14, 2002, 05:09:00 PM
OH MY!!! :-D

I just loved reading this!  MS used to promote the AMIGA!!!

How VERY cleaver of Bill McEwen to get this accepted, not  to mention how this implies what the "Big Guys" think of AmigaDE!!!  ;-)

This made my day!!!

Bob C.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: whabang on March 14, 2002, 05:40:36 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: System on March 14, 2002, 05:56:43 PM
Manitou, help us...
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Chathurawind on March 14, 2002, 06:57:13 PM
IBM not doing anything? How about you get your head out of your arse and go and do some research.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on March 14, 2002, 07:29:11 PM
When was the last time you bought an IBM branded product. IBM are loaded - they own things. Its those individual companies that they own that does the stuff. IBM themselves sit back and rake the money in, and there's nothing wrong with that. Obviously they must be doing things to aquire those companies, but IBM themselves source technology, its the firms they own that develop it. I see the same happening with MS.  :-P
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: redrumloa on March 14, 2002, 07:37:25 PM
It's that smell, that smelly smell that smells and smells. anonymous poster.

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How about you get your head out of your arse and go and do some research.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: theTAO on March 14, 2002, 08:03:53 PM
I'm certainly not upsest by the announcement...DE was always meant to run on a wide range of hardware, and .Net, PocketPC, etc. are just more platforms.

What does concern me is Microsoft's infamous record of adopting technologies and then altering them in a proprietary way (embrace, extend, extinguish).  Surely they must see DE in a similar light as Java...a platform that runs on top of any OS and makes that OS inconsequential...and we all know the legal battles Sun faced.  If the press release does signal a major partnership, it is noteworthy because DE may be the largest completely external technology Microsoft have used in one of their products in a long time, maybe since Spry Mosaic?!  And MS being an early adopter of DE could signal that their own .Net development is far behind schedule.

As long as DE and .Net remain two distinct products, and Amiga doesn't put too much faith in the partnership (if .Net should go down in flames at the hands of the courts, or from public distruct), I wish them luck.

Todd
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: System on March 14, 2002, 09:45:02 PM
Another one for the AMIGA boys!
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: JetFireDX on March 15, 2002, 12:50:24 AM
Not to look at this the wrong way but for hating MS so much you guys sure did a 180 with this announcement. I personally am going to remain skeptical. When has anybody ever seen MS get into a "partnership" and follow through on their end? I have to wonder if this isn't just like what they did to SEGA with the WinCE/DirectX technology and Dreamcast. Its scary I think, especially since what I have read about .NET is that its damn near identical to DE in what it is supposed to do. I know that a lot of things from MS are supposed to work one way but don't very well most of the time, but .NET isn't supposed to be even in beta until later this year right? So MS buddies up with TAO/Amiga for intent and DE and then when they have learned what they need they will incorporate it into .NET and dump TAO/Amiga. Even though this means good promotion for Amiga and possibly some needed cash, I think they are playing with fire. I wouldn't have an problems with this if MS wasn't already working on .NET. If they just adopted DE/intent right at the get go then it would be fine, they wouldn't be developing a competing product while using DE. Why then spend the money developing .NET if they really wanted to use DE...at some point they will switch.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: teo on March 15, 2002, 01:29:18 AM
re: the old poll, its not a theory anymore, new poll time, and im looking forward to the results

teotwin
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: Bobsonsirjonny on March 15, 2002, 02:49:44 AM
JetFireDX,

Your sceptism is valid - but I think with all the flak that MS is getting at the moment from the courts, they dare not appear anti competative. Perhaps they will scrap .net in favour of AA? Amiga is a privatly run company. As far as I know MS couldn't mount a hostile takeover. Even if AA burns on windows, it should allow doors to open on other platforms, and give the Amiga platform back, the respect which it so deserves.
Title: Re: Amiga® To Provide Content For Next Generation Windows CE
Post by: DaveP on March 23, 2002, 11:54:06 AM
IBM has a staf of over 300,000. The overwhelming majority of their products are built by their M+D labs for which I work.

They do not just sit back and rake it in. The business model you are referring to is a figment of your own imagination.

They market at businesses not at consumers in the main. Given that they make billions every year out of their software products, research et al, I think they are very successfull. I think what you are referring to is IGS ( IBM Global Services ) which is just one small part of IBM.

So yes, get your head out of your arse and go and look on IBMs site as to what they do.

Dave.