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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Events => Topic started by: Chathurawind on March 02, 2002, 05:09:08 PM
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More information on the upcoming Amiga Expo show. Sounds like it's shaping up rather nicely.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Amiga Expo and Extreme Computing are pleased to bring you the following press release. Please make plans now to visit Amiga Expo on March 29th-31st at the Marriott Hunt Valley Inn in Maryland where you will see all the
latest developments including those from our friends at Extreme Computing!
Extreme Computing (a branch of Extreme Corporation) began reseach and development of new Amiga-based products in the Spring of 1999. With the announcement of the Amiga x86 solution in the Summer of 2001, we began
working overtime to come up with new designs of x86-based hardware that would be powerful, functional, compelling, upgradable, and above all else - Amiga and AmigaDE compliant!
The results have far exceeded our expectations. Our new line of x86 based Amiga hardware will ultimately usher in new levels in design and performance for the Amiga consumer computing experience. The main goal was to give the consumers back a true Amiga system. One where you can take it right out of the box and boot up to an Amiga screen without any hassles or unnecessary complexity.
One of our guiding concepts was to combine classic designs with modern technology - thus bringing you the Amiga X1200 computer system. This system offers the design and compactness of the original Commodore Amiga A1200, but with all new, and blazingly fast, hardware under the hood. The Amiga X1200
is the ideal replacement, or addition, to your Amiga computing needs.
The Amiga X1200 isn't the only exciting new hardware we have coming. Extreme Corporation will have several MORE innovative and powerful Amiga solutions on display at their booth at Amiga Expo. All of these designs are will be shipping with Amiga OS x86(3.9) pre-installed and will come with a full copy of
Nova Design, Inc.'s ImageFX 3.2 on CDROM. As a special show bonus, all orders placed at Amiga Expo will also come with FREE SHIPPING.
Extreme Corporation (Formerly Amitech Electronics) was founded by Amiga Enthusiasts to assist in providing Amiga Owners with useful tools and information for an ever growing computing experience.
Nova Design, Inc. are the creators of Aladdin 4D and ImageFX - the Amiga's most consistently top-rated image editing and special effects package and are the hosts of Amiga Expo. See us all at the show!
For more information on other exhibits and information about Amiga Expo visit our web site at www.amigaexpo.com and sign up today! Don't forget to get your hotel rooms and banquet tickets! You can order everything online or by toll free number as shown on the web site.
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Amiga OS x86? Does that just mean Amithlon? Now I'm really REALLY confused! Is it a hoax?
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Amiga OS x86, eh? Hmm...
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"With the announcement of the Amiga x86 solution in the Summer of 2001"
when was Amithlon announced ?
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Its a PC with Amithlon Installed.
Hardly a breakthrough.
But still.
~Betajaen
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Just look at their site, it just PC hw packaged with Amithlon/AmigaXL :-) http://1extreme.net/computing/amiga/AmigaXspec.html
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There are 3 plan for PowerPC emulator for PC. Unfortunately the products are vaporware / unfinished.
http://www.ardi.com/ardi/technology.html
http://www.emulators.com/updates.htm
http://www.microcode-solutions.com/welcome.htm
If the product are finished and compatible with AMIGA OS 4 (or 5), perhaps Extreme Computing can bundle AMIGA OS with 10 GHz Prestonia :)
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Amiga x86 was the name Bill McEwen gave to AmigaXL/Amithlon when he presented it at Sacramento last year.
This isn't the same as buying some pc hardware at your local clone guys - this is an Amiga company branding some cool looking hardware and preinstalling Amiga x86 and OS 3.9 - meaning your money supports your platform rather than some clone store that won't help you and may not be there tomorow.
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Amiga EX (EX4100):-D
CPU
Intel® Pentium® III processor / FSB=100/133 MHz CPU Types
1.0 GHz Maximum CPU Speed
Intel® FC-PGA CPU Packaging
512MB SDRAM Memory Maximum
168-pin SDRAM Add On Memory Type
2 Add On Memory Slots
128KB / 256KB L2 Cache
On-Die L2 Cache Type
Video System
SiS 630 Video Chipset
AGP2X Video Interface
64-bit Video Bus Width
3D Graphics
Up to 32MB Video Memory
1024 x 768 x 256k TFT Resolution
Storage System
Built-in Floppy Drive
Hard Disk Height: 25.4mm
Ultra DMA Support
Optional CD-RW CD ROM
DVD ROM
( 8X ) MPEG2 DVD ROM
DVD TV Out
PCMCIA System
SiS 630 MB Chipset
2 Type II or 1 Type III Number Of Slots
Cardbus
Audio System
Sound Blaster Audio System
3D Surround Sound
Expansion Ports
1 EPP/ECP Parallel Port Parallel Port
1 (16550A) Serial Port Serial Port
External CRT Port
2 PS/2 Port
Microphone Port
Line In Out Port
Speaker Out Earphone Port
S-video Video In Port
IrDA 1.1 / FIR Infrared Port
Internal Modem: 56k v.90 ; 10/100 Lan Card
4 USB Ports
Keyboard and Pointing Devices
( Keyboard optional )
Logitech Mouse
Power Systems
Auto-switching AC Adapter
Suspend to RAM and HDD
Dimensions
Size: 14.5" x 15.1 " x 6.8"
Weight: 17.4 Lbs
Technical Specifications - Extreme AmigaX1200
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CPU
Intel Pentium III socket 370 FCPGA 533EB-1GHz/133MHz Intel Celeron FCPGA566-850Mhz
MOTHER BOARD CHIPSET
High Performance SIS 630S with integrated high performance, advanced hardware 2D/3D GUI engine
MEMORY
Two 168-pin DIMM sockets for 64-1GB 100/133MHz SDRAM
DISPLAY ADAPTER
Integrated 2D/3D graphics engine, 4x AGP, up to 1920x1440 resolution, Shared system memory utilizing up to 64MB, hardware decoding DVD accelerator support
DUAL VIDEO
(VGA, LCD panel & Video Interface)
VGA, LCD, TV display 3 choose 1
LCD: Digital Flat Panel
Video: Video-Out (RCA jack)
The second video(VGA2) can be set as the primary video by the Operating System.
NETWORK
Integrated 10/100 Fast Ethernet controller, RJ45 connector,
Wake-On-LAN support.
AUDIO
AC' 97 Audio CODEC with full duplex, Supports Microsoft Direct sound, 3D positional audio effects, Audio-Out, Line-In Mic-In.
IDE AND HDD
Ultra DMA/33/66/100 Synchronous DMA support
FLOPPY DRIVE
3.5" slim 1.44MB Floppy (optional)
WARRANTY
2 years limited
I/O Ports
Windbond 83697HF super I/O chips, COM1, COM2, LPT1
USB PORTS
4-USB Ports w/Hot-Plug function
EXPANSION SLOT
1 PCI Expansion Slot (short card)
CD-ROM/CD-RW, DVD
Slim CD, CD-RW, DVD options
MODEM
56K v.90 (optional)
SYSTEM BIOS
Award AGP BIOS
KEYBOARD
Full-size Enhanced Windows keyboard
DIMENSIONS
18.25" wide x 8.5" deep x 0.5" high at front and 2.75" high at back
OPERATING ENVIRONMENT
Ambient Temperature: 41" - 131º (5º - 55º C)
WEIGHT
7.6 lbs (3.4 kg) Main Unit
Operating Systems available: Linux OS, AmigaXL OS, QNX RTOS.
(Windows 98/2000/XP fully compatible, but we do NOT support Windows)
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(Pr)Estonia =)
The Estonia ship was lost in a major accident with huge fatalities and few survivors. Kinda like a nordic Titanic.
BTW, why keep people believing that intel processors are cheaper and deliver more performance? Are these people total airheads? Did they politely inquire the matter at intels PR division? What's the inside story, please tell me.
Go AMD!
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Isnt this just that PC that was on some news sites ages ago?
notice how it has windows keys on the keyboard too.
Come on guys we all know emulation isnt the way forward, OS4
and AmigaONE is :)
yours
Ryu
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I Would love to sell AmigaONE, Amiga SDK, AmigaX1200 and Amiga EX (EX4100) on my webpage who would I have to call and/or email?
:-D
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i`m still hearing anti-pc hardware vibes, but i`m sick of the way amiga hardware tends to be.. shoddy companies, shoddy equipment...
i `ll probably get slagged off for saying it but amiga companies piss me off - me and others have been messed around by alot of them - especially if ya bought a dodgy ppc card... and those that had one know what i`m saying.
lets get on the cheap hardware bandwagon, cos i`m loving it
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Just my opinion, but... THIS IS BLOODY TERRIBLE...
Their going to confuse a lot of people by saying this is x86 Amiga hardware and that they are going to give people OS3.9 x86.
This also seems like a wast of time for Extream. Ahthlon systems can also be used out of the box with OS3.9.
But the worst of it is, that there confusing peopple, *looks at previous posts*.
I could not think of anything worse than this, Amiga Inc, please have a word to these people and try to get them to change their wording fot heir products.
They are taking advantage of consumers who may not know alot about AmigaOS and the Amiga.
This will prolly end up giving the Amiga a bad name, amoung consumers who are going to buy these boards.
I dont like this. What the point in buying one anyway? That is for those of us who know what hey are. AmigaOSPPC should be out in a months time... Why bother buying the Old OS? DE wont run on it.
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>SIS 630 S chipset
This "Intergrated / System on Chip / SOC" low cost chipset is a total CRAP.
The intergrated video performance is very poor and there is NO LINUX audio driver. There are problems with LAN / Network portion of the chipset.
This chipset is only used in low cost PC and the PC vendor try to cut cost by using this chipset.
Several LINUX programmers / group try to get the documentation for audio portion of the chipset, but SIS ignored them.
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HAHAHAHAHAH!
Yes, this is just prepackaged $#@!e that was introduced, and quickly dropped from sight over a year and a half ago.
However, at least its up to date hardware pretty much, and will run Amithlon.
Though, for all the Amiga geniuses here, I'm surprised none of you noticed it will only run the QNX version.
And you guys call Windows users Lusers......
bad_packet
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no it will not run Amithlon.
it will run AmigaOS-XL.
its not Amithlon compatable
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This sucks. It's not an Amiga, just an emulator!
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*Sigh* I'm sad to think that Expo attendance just dropped instead of increased.
I still debating if it's worth the miles/times let alone the $$. *sigh* I want real Miggy.
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I've been a regular Amiga.org reader for many years, and remember the site coming under criticism for too many "so-and-so just released this great, new technology..will Amiga be able to use it, too?" posts. Lately I've been seeing another trend...silly PC articles like ths one and "Intel Unveils Plans for New Pentium 4". Who gives a #*%& !? Maybe Amiga.org knows their audience, but if they do, I must be a black sheep. Lately I'm finding amiganews.de, ann.lu, and some other European boards a lot more fun and informative, and also less PC-biased.
Todd
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As an ex amiga user, can I ask a silly question,
What about software?.
It's all very well having an updated A1200 or whatever, But its still a A1200.
Way out of date and no new software.
So, unless you can do something with it 'out of the box' so what.
Its software that counts.
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I dont think Amiga.org is PC Biased. If that was so, you would hardle see Amiga news at all, if at all...
I think amiga.org has just become less Amiga biased, which is good. Many of us use Windows, Linux and other Operating system on x86. A lot of people like x86.
So yes, you must be a black sheep. Infact, i dont even own an amiga... infact, i have a 500 that is gathering dust, but i dont use it! :)
so you see, i think you are a black sheep :)
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This is a big no-no: These products are not officially licensed from Amiga Inc., and therefore the company producing them is using the Amiga brand illegally.
Not a good thing at all.
(But they do have nerve, that's for sure.)
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It seems they have done a deal with Amiga so they can use the Amiga name.
Anyway, it's just an emulator running OS3.9!
Not much future in that, but maybe a good short term soloution for those who need their 68K aplications?
A1 / OS4 is just around the corner, who wants emulation...? ;-)
Best regards
Troels Ersking
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I'd have to agree with Mr. Ersking. I've been scrounging around for different upgrades / solutions for my aging A1200, and settling for a warmed over Pee Cee just doesn't cut it. I'm holding out for the A1 w/OS4. At least it will be a real Amiga. It seems that some of people forget that the Amiga solution is a full integration of hardware and software, and an emulater running a foriegn board will certainly lose a lot of the same efficiency that made the origional miggies what they were.
Yup, I'm holding out for the real thing! :-D
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According to Amiga, Inc. they are *not* licensed. Like I said "big no-no".
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Besides, not even being an updated A1200, that has the possibility of harming the sales and confusing old time users. NOT GOOD.
An updated A1200 like PPC Amiga would be welcome though. A semilaptop thing, an hybrid. Something cool that has been lost.
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Hmm I know what they're trying to do and I can't blame them, there is a small market for these 'wanna-be Amigas'.
I like the sort of compact style, but couldn't you just build yourself one for half the price (...and better spec) to run XL on?
Another thing, i'm getting WELL annoyed with people calling their products names with 'X' in !
Theres X-box, XP, OS X, XL and now Amiga X1200????
It seems they are trying to give their product a mysterious theme but just seems unoriginal and very outdated.
......... off to watch the X-files after a game of project-X :-D
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above post was me.
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no it's not going to fool the remaining market....the remaining market is savvy users...and they will all ignore this crap.
It's only a pc and nothing more.
This isn't a legitimate company, its just some loser working out of his bedroom, like 'Merlancia Industries.' Ha, ha, you all will swear that wasn't fair, but it is.
Stick with companies that have proven histories. Companies like Amiga, Inc., Hyperion, Eye-tech....they do have histories of getting things done. Mind you, not a whole lot, mostly ports and rereleases of other peoples product, or in the case of eye-tech reselling hardware...but its more than nothing and about the best we got.
This announcement is NOTHING. If I want a pc, I'll buy one on my own thank you.
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These PC's are manufactured from these guys
https://www.cybernetman.com/default.cfm?docid=608
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> I dont think Amiga.org is PC Biased. If that was so, you would
> hardle see Amiga news at all, if at all...
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> I think amiga.org has just become less Amiga biased, which is
> good.
That doesn't make much sense. This is an AMIGA site. If it's going to be biased in any way, it should be Amiga-biased. If Wayne wants to go in another direction, that's his decision, but I would ask he buy a new domain name.
> Many of us use Windows, Linux and other Operating system on x86. A
> lot of people like x86.
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> So yes, you must be a black sheep. Infact, i dont even own an
> amiga... infact, i have a 500 that is gathering dust, but i dont
> use it! :)
When you say "Amiga biased", I hope you mean only Amiga-specific hardware. Should I presume that AmigaOS is one of the other OS's on your PC?
Todd
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Hello everyone,
I have to say that what everyone is saying is both right and wrong. Extreme Corporation's X-1200 is a good idea if anyone wants something like that. There are Amiga users that are tired of waiting for OS 4.0 and AmigaOne. Maybe some of them are having troubles booting their old faithful Amiga hardware and really need to get a new, working Amiga without having to wait another month to six months (maybe).
Many of our users group members purchased the Amiga OSXL and bought our Intel PCs using the Amiga OSXL's shopping list of hardware, only to find that OSXL or Amithlon wouldn't work with it. We've had workshops where members would bring in their hardware and we put our heads together trying to get this stuff to work. I can only imagine what a lot of Amigans are going through trying to get this stuff to work properly that don't have the support of other Amiga users in a users group.
In some cases a computer containing the proper graphics/video card would say that it was the correct card supported by OSXL, only to be a cheap Southeast Asian knock-off that wouldn't work in the end. Now imagine spending thousands of dollars on hardware only to find out that it won't work with your OS? It's hard to return computer hardware for that.
A few month's ago Todd Gustafson from Extreme Corporation put on a presentation at our users group and showed us all of his hardware. The hardware is OEMed and his employees install the OS and emulation stuff for the customers. Personally I think buying a PC with the Amiga OSXL already installed, tested, and ready to go is a great idea and well worth some people to consider. Some Amigans are happy to own off-the-shelf PC equipment and running their favorite Amiga OS on it. That is one of Bill McEwen's wishes after all.
There has also been a lot of development for Amithlon and Amiga OSXL that improves its use of Amiga software. This isn't a rip off; far from it. This is a great way of getting a guaranteed working Amiga on PC hardware. It comes right out of the box doing it. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to install it, it arrives already to go. What's important is that it's real and you can buy it right now. You don't have to wait and pray any longer like with the AmigaOne/Amiga 4.0.
Naturally, not all of us would want this. Many of us want a PPC AmigaOne (or equivalent) using Amiga OS 4.x. There are also many very technical Amigans out there that can build their own system like this themselves. And more power to them. For the rest of us though, this is another option. Extreme Corporation is giving Amigans more choices.
Rick
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Well, I'll be damned if I didn't realize that the former Commodore International building in Germany was a bedroom!
"Shipping/Postal Addresses (DE):
Merlancia Industries (International)
Carl - Giesecke - Str. 5
D-38112 Braunschweig
Germany / Deutschland"
Next time post with your real name, so Merlancia can file a slander case against you.
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Heh. This must be the most idiotic news ever. Why going for x86 at all? Why Amithlon? Heck! I will never support this company nor helping them. They dont deserve that.
If there was a new A1200PPC, sure why not. But x86 Amiga? AROS is comming... then why Amithlon?
AmigaWorld.org ignores this, and so should you too.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org