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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: barney on May 27, 2009, 07:28:30 AM
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This may be a stupid question, but who actually owns Amiga now? Is there still an active company doing anything at all with Amiga, or is it completely dead?
Barney
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go to amiga.com
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Not a stupid question at all. There is infact a court case ongoing trying to determine that... Allthough, most people have a clair and definitive preference...
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Not a stupid question at all. There is infact a court case ongoing trying to determine that... Although, most people have a clear and definitive preference...
I don't think it's nearly that simple. As with most things in the Amiga community, I'll bet it's 50/50 vote there on who the community wants to win.
The funny thing is, there's at least 30% of the community still convinced that Gateway still technically owns everything. Per McEwen's own words in a meeting with the UGN reps at St Louis, they "licensed" the patents and all that.
In the end, we can all armchair quarterback it to death but the truth is that it's for he courts to decide, and since the records were sealed, I'm guessing we will never know for sure.
It is however interesting to note that even with the case going on (or over?) Hyperion is still hocking 4.x...
Wayne
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Truth be told Wayne, business is business.
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I don't think it's nearly that simple. As with most things in the Amiga community, I'll bet it's 50/50 vote there on who the community wants to win.
Maybe you're right, but even 51% is "most" ;-) hehe
But seriously, yes I guess there is people who believe in the current A Inc. But I wouldn't think it's most. However, I'm sure there's a 50/50 split when betting on who will come out on top of this.
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However, I'm sure there's a 50/50 split when betting on who will come out on top of this.
I hate to say it, but this would make a good poll...... :confused:
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I don't think it's nearly that simple. As with most things in the Amiga community, I'll bet it's 50/50 vote there on who the community wants to win.
The funny thing is, there's at least 30% of the community still convinced that Gateway still technically owns everything. Per McEwen's own words in a meeting with the UGN reps at St Louis, they "licensed" the patents and all that.
In the end, we can all armchair quarterback it to death but the truth is that it's for he courts to decide, and since the records were sealed, I'm guessing we will never know for sure.
It is however interesting to note that even with the case going on (or over?) Hyperion is still hocking 4.x...
Wayne
If 50 percent of the community wants Amiga, Inc. to win that case we are in BIG trouble.
We don't need any more of thus nutso stuff:
Kent Arena madness: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/kent-wa/T6TE3BB2QIOPAK8OT
ACK Amigas that never came (that were announced AFTER the lawsuit started)
AA2 (dead as a doornail it would seem)
Bill's mystery OS is much better than OSX BS:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/06/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-part-xlv-amiga-head-says-new-amigaos-5-bet/
Meanwhile Hyperion has continued to bring us real products.
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Gateway and Amiga inc both suck MEGA A$$! Amiga Inc is only really interested in selling Cell phone software and OSes. Gateway just wants to hold on to that till some one wants it bad enough to pay out the wazoo for it. It sad really because there gonna have there death grip on Amiga goodness until its completely dead.
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In truth, redrumloa bought Amiga Inc on ebay for $1.98, he is just not telling anyone because he is a meany. hehe
:D
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So it might be possible to license Amiga property as McEwen has done ..? ;)
Anyway as it is now. The hardware will most likely go FPGA cloned or software emulated. And the software is not that hard to get ;). And might even be obsoleted if Aros-68k is done.
The best might actually be that current state of slow bitchfighting :D keeps the nutheads away kind of ;)
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The simple answer is that we don't know.
And the sad fact is that with each passing year (and 'owner') the name is worth less and less :(
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Perhaps an auction would be a viable option.
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go to amiga.com
On second thought, please don't. It's too embarrassing to see just what "Amiga" has become.
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In an auction their would be more interest in the name, which means female friend in Portuguese and Spanish, than the company....
Perhaps an auction would be a viable option.
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The simple answer is that we don't know.
And the sad fact is that with each passing year (and 'owner') the name is worth less and less :(
so sadly true Nova!
btw, love the new avatar
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In an auction their would be more interest in the name, which means female friend in Portuguese and Spanish, than the company....
Amiga Inc. does not own the word, "Amiga." They own the trademark for the use of that word with respect to technology. If someone else wants to come up with a brand of chocolate bars and call them "Amiga" or a new shampoo called "Amiga," they may lay claim to such a trademark right now without paying Amiga Inc. a penny.
For better or worse, I think the Amiga trademark still has quite a high value. I would sell my house for it, but I have a feeling that I would need about 10-20 more such houses!
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If 50 percent of the community wants Amiga, Inc. to win that case we are in BIG trouble.
100% agree.
We only have to check which part did more for the Amiga platform.
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Amiga Inc. does not own the word, "Amiga." They own the trademark for the use of that word with respect to technology. If someone else wants to come up with a brand of chocolate bars and call them "Amiga" or a new shampoo called "Amiga," they may lay claim to such a trademark right now without paying Amiga Inc. a penny.
For better or worse, I think the Amiga trademark still has quite a high value. I would sell my house for it, but I have a feeling that I would need about 10-20 more such houses!
i never understood very well how a word which appears in a dictionary can have a trademark.. :o)
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i never understood very well how a word which appears in a dictionary can have a trademark.. :o)
Apple MacIntosh [TM] to sell dictionary-definition fruit by that name? Nope.
Apple MacIntosh [TM] to sell (non-dictionary-definition) computers by that name? Yup.
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Stop breathing Sir! you are infringing on the respitory process patent ;)
Seems the corporate vaccum has spurred some creativity!, why not continue?
As for the name.. most people don't know about Amiga. So if it's a good machine. Use another name.
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The right owner of the Amiga patent can be also... Acer.
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Hi.
Who owns Amiga now?
Seems to be represented by Amiga Inc. http://www.amiga.com
Are they still active?
They are very active in the creating of stupid childish games for iphones. ephones, cell phones or whatever you want to call it.
As far as trying to make a good computer, I don't believe anyone in the company has enough talent (or brains),
they are strictly in the process of making simple games that anyone with one or two years of BASIC programming could make. They would be better off establishing a magazine with where you could type in the listing of their games into your computer to play them like they did in the beginning computer years.
smerf
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Amiga dot Com is worth much more as a Portuguese/Spanish dating service than as a technology company. Any bankruptcy sale would result in the domain name being sold for several tens of thousands of dollars and the company and technology for a few cents. Amiga Inc have registered AmigaInc.com, so they may have contingency plans on selling the domain name to keep functioning.
Amiga Inc. does not own the word, "Amiga." They own the trademark for the use of that word with respect to technology. If someone else wants to come up with a brand of chocolate bars and call them "Amiga" or a new shampoo called "Amiga," they may lay claim to such a trademark right now without paying Amiga Inc. a penny.
For better or worse, I think the Amiga trademark still has quite a high value. I would sell my house for it, but I have a feeling that I would need about 10-20 more such houses!
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Just a norty idea..
One could make a public copyright infringement. And thus force the entity that owns it to prove ownership in court. Failure to do so might make the court default to free for anyone?, and if there's someone that holds it activly one has to take the financial slap.
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I read all the posts here before I typed this.
As far as I am concerned no one owns the Amiga. It is dead except for diehards like myself who still use them because they just won't die.
Amiga was a hardware computer system. Anyone can develope for it but there are so few around one would be better off developing hardware for a commodore 64.
You can get an IDE controller, with flash card memory and an ethernet option for the commodore 64 for 200 euros. Try finding that for an Amiga.
As for the "new Amiga OS" I'll be dead long before they ever get it working like Linux, Macintosh or Windows.
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Just a norty idea..
One could make a public copyright infringement. And thus force the entity that owns it to prove ownership in court. Failure to do so might make the court default to free for anyone?, and if there's someone that holds it activly one has to take the financial slap.
Why not compile your own distribution of AROS and sell it as AmigaOS... see if you get a legal challenge :-)
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This may be a stupid question, but who actually owns Amiga now? Is there still an active company doing anything at all with Amiga, or is it completely dead?
Barney
Ok so the courts are in charge of this mess.
So lets do a survey and see who is the fav? And take it up a notch with a prize for those on the winning side. Maybe a gift card or a t-shirt or something from one or more of the dealers out there.
The winners determined by the court case.
Might be fun..Might take a while to find out who the winners are though.. ;-)
boB