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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / General => Topic started by: adz on May 24, 2009, 11:08:29 AM
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I always promised myself that I'd never sign up with facebook (or any other mainstream social networking site) but given that I am surrounded by this god awful thing; missus, kids, cat, dog etc. it's all starting to have an affect on me. So I thought I'd throw it out to Amiga land in the form of a poll!
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I just don't get the hype surrounding this abomination. :crazy:
Nope. No Facebook or Friendface (http://www.friendface.org/) for me. (Check out the video on the Friendface site. Says it all really. :lol:) (Video originally appeared on the Channel 4 comedy show "IT Crowd (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-it-crowd)")
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I visit amiga.org and amiga more often than facebook ;-)
It's nice to "catch up" with some old frinds you have not seen in years, but i prefer to meet people face to face.
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Naah, just, naah
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Facebook is evil. It three steps beyond google. Which I have fallen for in terms of using google mail.
My worst fear is that google will buy face book and then the internet will own all of my soul.
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First of all do a search/inquiry on who actually funds Facebook. I am not trying to be funny here, but you will actually see that it is all CIA money, so they can Datamine people, friends, etc.
Second, Yes I did have an account, but about a year ago they "changed" the design. There was so much active scripting, I immediately canceled my account as it was choking my computer. You could no longer run a script blocker in FF and actually see anything on the page. Also EVERY application, wanted or needed full control of your computer, account, everything. Again, very good way of putting Trojans on your system. in the end, it was a collossel time waster, so i left it behind. That and twitter. I am much happier now without it.
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Also potential employers, and HR departments are now using Facebook to Check out potential employees. IF you belong to certain groups, have drunken pictures of your self, anything, they are now using that in evaluating positions. Remember, anyone can access it.
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I really, really don't understand the rampant paranoia regarding Facebook. Yes. If you do stupid stuff and post about it (bragging), people will see you.
NOTHING wants "control of your computer". Games and facebook apps simply need access to your FACEBOOK ACCOUNT in order to fill in the blanks of their own data, such as your birthdate, etc.
Use it wisely, play the games, and get away from it. All I can say is that it's been quite helpful in keeping in touch with old friends and schoolmates.
Wouldn't touch MySPACE with your "10 foot pole", and I find others like linkedin useful, but kinda boring.
Guess all you paranoid ninnies are glad I didn't install the "Facebook theme" eh?
Wayne
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This poll should allow multiple selections. I think Facebook is evil incarnate, but I'm now on Facebook - and I'm starting to get obsessed checking for updates.
For years I boycotted Facebook and hated when people sent me stupid Facebook friend requests. I finally gave in and joined a couple months ago when I saw there were a bunch of old friends there that I hadn't talked to for 25 years - and Facebook was the only way I had of contacting them.
So now people (and agencies) can track me and see my connections, but I make sure don't put too much identifying information on it - no birthdate, education, work, location. I don't ever use the stupid applications (why do they ALL need my personal info??).
One thing that REALLY disturbs me about Facebook is that you can't permanently delete personal messages. You delete them, but they still exist. That seems a bit sinister. Why can't they be deleted?
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I really, really don't understand the rampant paranoia regarding Facebook. Yes. If you do stupid stuff and post about it (bragging), people will see you.
NOTHING wants "control of your computer". Games and facebook apps simply need access to your FACEBOOK ACCOUNT in order to fill in the blanks of their own data, such as your birthdate, etc.
Use it wisely, play the games, and get away from it. All I can say is that it's been quite helpful in keeping in touch with old friends and schoolmates.
Wouldn't touch MySPACE with your "10 foot pole", and I find others like linkedin useful, but kinda boring.
Guess all you paranoid ninnies are glad I didn't install the "Facebook theme" eh?
Wayne
Wayne,
I am not really all that paranoid, but I can see the potential (and I use the word POTENTIAL) with a site like Facebook. First, you have the worlds biggest Dataminning site. Now, anyone (PR firms to Pedophiles) can use it to track everything you do. Especially for those who "live" on it and are constantly updating their status. Second, if I wanted to write a Virus to take down 90% of the computers in the world, I would just have to hide it in a cool Application.
A month or so ago, Facebook, tried to change their terms of service agreement to read basically anything you did, posted or wrote on facebook became their (facebook's) exclusive property. It wasn't until it hit the national news, that people even knew about it and forced Facebook to change decision back.
Facebook is NOT a good thing, It is a Trojan horse! (in the literal term.). You don't think that Homeland Security in the US is keeping a very close eye on people through Facebook? This is only the beginning of what is going to come from Facebook (and other social networking sites). I would love to hear your thought 5 years from now.
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I registered on faceb00k under a false identity exclusively to have anosey round other people's accounts.
So far, none of my so called friends have actually used it to contact me, and all the people I was at school with were idots so I don't want to contact them.
I joined an amiga group but due to the sites uselessness and excessive use of javascript I am going to cancel my account soon. Its not like I'll be missing much. All the people I want to talk to online are on forums and/or IRC.
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Wayne,
You don't think that Homeland Security in the US is keeping a very close eye on people through Facebook?
"Homeland Security"...now there's an oxymoron..... :furious:
You don't think "Homeland Security" in the US is keeping a very close eye on people through *EVERY* site they can get access to?? "Homeland Security" is just a legitimacy for the US Government to spy on whoever, whenever they want. If people start ranting and raving about it, the just drop the bombshell "Hey, you let us pass the Patriot Act. It's in the interests of national security".
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Undoubtedly the most annoying thing about the Facebook craze is the use of the word "Facebook" as a verb. "Do you Facebook?" or "Oh yeah, just Facebook me about it." or "He Facebooks me all the time." The only good thing about this is that it presents the opportunity to inform people that you Facebooked their mum.
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My 11 year old Grand daughter is starting to outgrow facebook - its about at the "who cares" stage now. Many of her friends still use it though. I guess the 11 to 14 year old crowd that uses it say volumes...
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Psst... I'll let you in on a little secret...
There are already OTHER ways to keep in contact with old friends!!!
One is called an 'instant messenger', the other an amazing invention called 'email' and the third is a devilishly clever piece of electronic trickery called a 'telephone'!
:-)
Mike.
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Psst... I'll let you in on a little secret...
There are already OTHER ways to keep in contact with old friends!!!
One is called an 'instant messenger', the other an amazing invention called 'email' and the third is a devilishly clever piece of electronic trickery called a 'telephone'!
:-)
Mike.
Wow. A snide comment. I guess Amiga.org really *is* coming back to life.. :)
Seriously though, since the average age of the current Amiga community member falls below the age during which Commodore even existed, I doubt most of you are even old enough to understand when I say that when you've been out of school 25 years and have NO way to contact them via "IM" or "e-mail", then something like Facebook does indeed come in handy for re-establishing contacts.
Some of the people I now talk to are in different parts of the country, even different parts of the world, and it would be neigh impossible to find them otherwise.
But thanks for the wise-ass comment, makes me feel like I should step in for your daddy who obviously should have smacked you harder as a child..
:laughing:
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@mingle
I'd put out the phone option but as for the others I agree, I was gonna write something like that. If I want to contact old friends I get their contacts some way and .. contact them! If we want to share common stuff we can use email lists or whatever. But nothings like doing a gather like the old times:)
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@Jose,
Yes, but if you haven't seen or heard from a friend in 25 years, and as is the case with old girlfriends, they now have different last names, how do you find them via the phone or other means?
I'm not saying you would ONLY use FB or another means to stay in touch, but I'm now talking with old girlfriends from different freaking states who would be impossible to find if they hadn't seen me on Facebook first.
Matter of fact, I'm *still* searching for THE "one that got away", and I guarantee you that I'll never find her via e-mail or a phone.
Wayne
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..... when you've been out of school 25 years and have NO way to contact them via "IM" or "e-mail", then something like Facebook does indeed come in handy for re-establishing contacts.
Some of the people I now talk to are in different parts of the country, even different parts of the world, and it would be neigh impossible to find them otherwise.
That's really the only reason I have a Facebook. Originally, it was just to talk to my little sister, but one person found me, randomly from an old email I still use I attached to Classmates.com years ago. So, I added her on Facebook, 'cos she asked if I had one and my friends went from 2 to 70 in a matter of weeks.
The problem with Facebook is a) it's maddening that people add you, when in reality, you really weren't friends back in the day and b) the people you *REALLY* want to talk to, aren't on there. :confused:
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The problem with Facebook is a) it's maddening that people add you, when in reality, you really weren't friends back in the day and b) the people you *REALLY* want to talk to, aren't on there. :confused:
Sorry for the short response, but I totally agree. That's the only downside for me.
I've got one guy from elementary and middle school who's constantly talking to me now. The only memory I have is of this guy is him constantly being a bully and trying to pick a fight. Took many a paddling and near suspension from whipping his ass, let me tell you, but it was always him starting crap trying to prove that he was the tough guy.
Didn't help that I was 6' tall by age 12 though. I was always the kid that all the prisoner daddies told their punk ass kids to "find and beat up on the first day of school so nobody messes with you".
Also, the target of the football team for pretty much the same reason. I was always the calm "talk your way out of it" guy but them starting s**t with me didn't always work to their advantage once I'd had enough...
Wayne
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Wow. A snide comment. I guess Amiga.org really *is* coming back to life.. :)
Did you honestly expect anything less? ;)
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I don't support facebook (or any other social networking site really).
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I'm definitely not on facebook, myspace or something. I have enough solid friends to even consider making those virtual ones. It depends (usage justification) on that balance that is, how many people you're meeting every week. Well maybe for some that's the only social way out, not for me, I ain't no target here. And I don't like twitter either. I'm not a Brittish Queen or Britney Spears to entertain the audience with the info that I'm just scratching my butt. Also I have no business intension on informing anybody about my activities. Coming to the business (I consider myself an addict to this kind of attitude towards everything) - all web2 usage is in 99% economically pointless. But it is clinically some sort of a cheap relief, hence those crowds ready for subscription. But that's a huge space for targetting ads - this is why it is cool to be a facebook owner :lol:
Well amigaorg or awnet sites are pretty social but they're about hobbies, which makes those sites more to vortals than web2. Besides this whole Amiga stuff is ill enough to have fantastic people only that stick around.
In my country there's a huge web2 portal nasza-klasa.pl, something like classmates.com. It already has 11 milion accounts and my wife is spending much time on it. I happen to be seeing my pals in a pub while she sits before it and pretends to be intelligent by prooving the people out there that she's smart enough. I have no such needs, I don't need a therapy, I don't need a bulk of brand new friends either.
The only social site I'm active on is linkedin. I heard many stories it is easy to find a job through it - as long as you work in some niche. But I don't count on it, just refresh my cv every several months, possibly adding some friend I would rely on. Just one more - imdb.com. This is social but one can use it as a reference movie database only - that's what I'm doing - browsing the already existing data.
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Undoubtedly the most annoying thing about the Facebook craze is the use of the word "Facebook" as a verb. "Do you Facebook?" or "Oh yeah, just Facebook me about it." or "He Facebooks me all the time." The only good thing about this is that it presents the opportunity to inform people that you Facebooked their mum.
Quiet you, unless you want a righteous Facebooking!
My sig on another site reads:
"Facebook? You've read my signature, that's enough social interaction for one day."
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Quiet you, unless you want a righteous Facebooking!
You'll never Facebook me alive!
My sig on another site reads:
"Facebook? You've read my signature, that's enough social interaction for one day."
:lol:
I don't think I'm interesting enough to fill up more than a couple of fields on a social networking site.
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Just remembered this vitriolic rant I posted a while ago about MySpace/Facebook :lol:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32120&p=353778
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Originally Posted by Karlos
Quiet you, unless you want a righteous Facebooking!
You'll never Facebook me alive!
We will Facebook you and all your family!
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We will Facebook you and all your family!
Most of my family are already on Facebook... one more reason not to use it I suppose.
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I joined Facebook to see what all the fuss was about...
It was interesting at first but imagine my horror when people started to find me and wanted to talk..:eek:
In the end it felt like a big game of Pokemon... "Gotta collect them all" :)
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Sites like Facebook are hopelessly boring. I will never subscribe.
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Most of my family are already on Facebook... one more reason not to use it I suppose.
HAH! In your facebook!
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I use it only to spread my business name everywhere. I compare it to a sexually transmittable(?) disease because everyone is the "friend" of everyone's other friends so if you do the math you have a lot of people knowing about you in a couple days only :)
Fortunately it doesn't itches ;)
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Regarding Facebook, I have an account to help enfranchise Teens in today's economy utilizing the latest in Internet profit sharing tools that today's youth are so adept with in every day use.
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Regarding Facebook, I have an account to help enfranchise Teens in today's economy utilizing the latest in Internet profit sharing tools that today's youth are so adept with in every day use.
What does that actually mean?
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Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, etc. are evil incarnate as far as I am concerned. Hey little girl... wanna a cell phone? Yeah, all these things are today's candy for young and impressionable robopathic types.
C'mon... all these new and improved ways of keeping in touch are little more than commercial exploitation on many, many, many levels. I contend that ALL of these forms of communication are counterproductive and unhealthy to say the least. People, especially young, are so socially awkward today and this cutesy electronic geeky/techy crap is for the easily brainwashed that need better direction and guidance in their lives.
Sorry to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, cause I'm not (37). I'm just sick and tired of seeing our society become more and more retarded by the day and that's exactly what governments and corporations want you to be. I'm also disgusted by all this texting and blatant cell phone abuse. And Twitter?? Nice name. Who cares what you're doing 24/7. Most people have NOTHING to say (get off the damn phone already!). They're NOT interesting in the least. Mediocrity is NOT cool and I refuse to accept that it is, despite the current agenda that seems to be winning. People with children that shouldn't even be allowed to own pets. Yep - that's our society today!
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What does that actually mean?
That means he wants to hook dolts at a young age, to become even more socially backward/awkward in order to maintain their dependency on shite technology.
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cant understand these types of sites really
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Don't believe the hype...
/Public Enemy
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I am on facebook but I seldom go there. It is boring, boring and boring.
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I tried facebook once. Yes, sir, I did.
It was fun for about one week, but after I had caught up with old classmates and friends (and realized I had nothing to say to them) the moment was gone.
After that I got annoyed by all the "Poke! Vampire bite!"-mails that I resigned and refused to come back.
Can't say I miss the thing.
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I'm special...
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2
(scroll down to see why, under "Social Networking")
Now, for those of you who partake of Facebook or MySpace, go Edit your own profile and let everyone know where to find you.
Wayne
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facebook is useful - my brother's band just got on and it's a nice way to let people know about future shows and other info.
like anything else, if you don't know how to use it, it's a waste of your time
if you do, it's a good tool
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As it says: Facebook. They book your face. No thanks, I don't want that FBI, CIA, KGB (?!), Interpol crap. I prefer to be icognito.
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Folks don't seem to realize you CAN set your security settings on FACEBOOK so the general public doesn't see very much about you at all. Only who you want to see them. I don't instantly "friend" everyone either..
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I would love to hear your thought 5 years from now.
Google quite handly finds every stupid thing I've ever done online, including all the dumbass things I posted as a teenager on USENET over 15 years ago. Thankfully, none of that has come back to haunt me. The difference with MySpace, Facebook, et al is they are an accurrate reflection of how "normal" people (among whom I do not count myself) socialize in the real world. All the geeks have taken their samurai-sword-weilding-pizza-boy-contract-killing alter egos to MMORPGs (yuck, but good for them), where they can continue to be ponces without real world retribution. The rest of the world is quickly learning that the things you do online impact real people and have real consequences.
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Let's see, as it stands we have:
45.49% who use FaceBook
2.7% who are sitting on the fence
48.2% who don't use FaceBook
3.6% who have no idea what FaceBook is
Not clearly decisive IMO. Quite frankly it would be easier to just wait for Moto to sign up and then sign up myself in sympathy, that way I'll be able to have at least one friend :D
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Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, etc. are evil incarnate as far as I am concerned. Hey little girl... wanna a cell phone? Yeah, all these things are today's candy for young and impressionable robopathic types.
C'mon... all these new and improved ways of keeping in touch are little more than commercial exploitation on many, many, many levels. I contend that ALL of these forms of communication are counterproductive and unhealthy to say the least. People, especially young, are so socially awkward today and this cutesy electronic geeky/techy crap is for the easily brainwashed that need better direction and guidance in their lives.
Sorry to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, cause I'm not (37). I'm just sick and tired of seeing our society become more and more retarded by the day and that's exactly what governments and corporations want you to be. I'm also disgusted by all this texting and blatant cell phone abuse. And Twitter?? Nice name. Who cares what you're doing 24/7. Most people have NOTHING to say (get off the damn phone already!). They're NOT interesting in the least. Mediocrity is NOT cool and I refuse to accept that it is, despite the current agenda that seems to be winning. People with children that shouldn't even be allowed to own pets. Yep - that's our society today!
I just had to reply to this one BRAVO! BRAVO! Most people are too dumb to know that they really need to stop the tweety facey spacey crap get out from behind the computer and go do something.
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I'm in the category: I was on Facebook. I enjoyed it thoroughly for several months, finding old friends and acquaintances.
I eventually deleted all my comments, photos and everything else and closed my account. I overreacted sure, but I don't miss it now.
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I don't have enough free time to spend on it, and I find much more rewarding spending my time coding or doing ports.
Varthall
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I had a facebook account for a long time, then, whilst visiting a friends page got hit by an XSS scripting attack. Deleted my account shortly thereafter and disabled javascript by default for browsing thereafter.
Wouldn't use it again.
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I always promised myself that I'd never sign up with facebook (or any other mainstream social networking site) but given that I am surrounded by this god awful thing; missus, kids, cat, dog etc. it's all starting to have an affect on me. So I thought I'd throw it out to Amiga land in the form of a poll!
Facebook is really just an advanced version of Email. Email 2.0 if you will. I think people that say "Facebook sucks I'll never use it!! " typically have never actually used Facebook. There is feeling that Facebook is something more than it really is.
It's as private as email. More so really as businesses can't really Spam you like your private email address gets spammed. Only your family and friends have access to post to your Facebook. That is the people YOU choose to let send you messages. So it's a little better than email in that sense.
There is no great mystery behind it. I mean you check it like you'd check email. You get to see what others want you to see. I have relatives all over the country and it's just lets us stay in contact. Grandmas, Great Grandmas, my parents, etc etc.
I wonder if when the phone was invented people complained about it like they do facebook. "I'll never use a phone!" Pen, paper, and stamps for life!!
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Facebook is really just an advanced version of Email. Email 2.0 if you will. I think people that say "Facebook sucks I'll never use it!! " typically have never actually used Facebook. There is feeling that Facebook is something more than it really is.
It's as private as email. More so really as businesses can't really Spam you like your private email address gets spammed. Only your family and friends have access to post to your Facebook. That is the people YOU choose to let send you messages. So it's a little better than email in that sense.
There is no great mystery behind it. I mean you check it like you'd check email. You get to see what others want you to see. I have relatives all over the country and it's just lets us stay in contact. Grandmas, Great Grandmas, my parents, etc etc.
I wonder if when the phone was invented people complained about it like they do facebook. "I'll never use a phone!" Pen, paper, and stamps for life!!
I think you have a very good point there.
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I think its kinda funny how most comments on here about social networking sometimes reach the point of some kind of zenophobia!. really shows the age/demographics of the folks that visit here.
If your in a band you almost "have" to use stuff like Facebook/Myspace/Twitter
Its really not all that bad. I visit each once a day to check up