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Title: best Filesystem
Post by: stefcep2 on May 14, 2009, 02:55:33 PM
I want to use a 4 gig compact flash card on an A1200.  Which filesystem is the fastest, most reliable, most efficient with storage space: FFS, PFS2, PFS3, SFS, FAT95?
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: save2600 on May 14, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
You're using this as your HD hooked to an IDE adapter, yes? If so, I'd vote for SFS. It's free and readily available on Aminet. Fat95? Oh no you didn't!  lol
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: MozzerFan on May 14, 2009, 04:44:53 PM
I also vote for SFS. It's free, it's fast and it's still being worked on.
I'm using it since 2003 and never had a problem.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: mike- on May 14, 2009, 04:52:03 PM
SFS all the way (http://strohmayer.org/)
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Piru on May 14, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
Easy, PFS3.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: cv643d on May 14, 2009, 04:59:27 PM
No
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: itix on May 14, 2009, 05:01:14 PM
PFS3 is the best.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: HammerD on May 14, 2009, 05:13:59 PM
OFS! lol ;-)
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Damion on May 14, 2009, 06:41:35 PM
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stefcep2 wrote:
I want to use a 4 gig compact flash card on an A1200.  Which filesystem is the fastest, most reliable, most efficient with storage space: FFS, PFS2, PFS3, SFS, FAT95?


Definitely PFS3. *Huge* performance boost over FFS, and (to a lesser extent) SFS.

Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: countzero on May 14, 2009, 06:48:54 PM
for all those who advocate PFS,

1 - is it still possible to buy PFS ?
2 - is the performance difference big enough to justify the purchase ?
3 - when was PFS last updated ?
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: amigadave on May 14, 2009, 06:53:37 PM
Interesting how "cost", or "better because it is free" always seems to creep into discussions about what is "best".  I don't look at things that way.  If something is better than another competing thing the cost, or price/performance ratio might influence what I buy, but it does not change my opinion on which one is the "best".

If I limited my decisions to buy, or use something solely based on price/performance ratios I would have left the Amiga community a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago.  :lol:


Edit: (Glad I bought PFS3 when I had the chance a long time ago)
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: amigadave on May 14, 2009, 06:57:27 PM
@countzero,

Get the free SFS and use it until you can find PFS3 for sale from someone like I did.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: countzero on May 14, 2009, 07:07:15 PM
I'm already using SFS. I don't see any reason to buy PFS to gain %5.5 speed on saving my whdload games.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: MozzerFan on May 14, 2009, 07:31:33 PM
@AmigaDave

Like CountZero already said, PSF3 is not worth it when SFS does a great job also.
PSF3 is only a little faster than SFS and, more importantly, PSF3 is not updated anymore.
Price/performance ratio is important to me, and IMHO nothing can beat SFS.


Edit: If Joerg (Developer of SFS) decided to sell SFS instead of making it available for free, I would happily buy it.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: save2600 on May 14, 2009, 07:32:47 PM
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amigadave wrote:
Interesting how "cost", or "better because it is free" always seems to creep into discussions about what is "best".


I mainly mentioned SFS because of the (lack) of availability of PFS3. Best in this case because:

a) use your Amiga straight away with SFS
b) not have to wait until you accidentally run across a copy of PFS
c) wait until you find an underground FTP that has PFS or ask a "buddy", which would be illegal and we all know the ethical ramifications of that! lol

...really, what other choices are out there to purchase this commercial file
system? And say in the meantime, you build up a large cache of goodies using SFS on your HD/CF Card and then you accidentally stumble upon PFS, you're going to have to make a backup, install PFS and then copy all that back. For those of us that don't use UAE, 4GB of transfer on an A1200 could take all day!  lol
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Piru on May 14, 2009, 07:56:33 PM
PFS3 is well worth it. Even though it hasn't been updated for ages it still beats SFS easily.

I not sure if that means more that PFS authors really rule than that SFS authors suck.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: countzero on May 15, 2009, 02:54:34 AM
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Piru wrote:
PFS3 is well worth it. Even though it hasn't been updated for ages it still beats SFS easily.


when was the last time you compared PFS performance to SFS ?
I thought you sold your amiga gear long ago ?
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: ChaosLord on May 15, 2009, 04:51:13 AM
PFS3 is "The Best".

Though I honestly have no problem with FFS, other than the 31 char filenames.

What filesystem does the RAMdisk.device use?  It seems to be fast, reliable and supports long filenames.
 
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Methuselas on May 15, 2009, 04:53:32 AM
Psh....*I* happen to think that EXT3 is the best......  :-P

EXT4 is probably better, but I don't have an X64 machine. =C
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: NovaCoder on May 15, 2009, 05:57:55 AM
I vote SFS because I'd rather have a filesystem where you can still contact the author if you have a problem  :-)
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: itix on May 15, 2009, 06:43:09 AM
@countzero

Problem with SFS is its performance deteriorates over time.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Piru on May 15, 2009, 06:44:39 AM
@countzero
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when was the last time you compared PFS performance to SFS ?

Couple of years ago. Nothing important has happened to SFS since.

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I thought you sold your amiga gear long ago ?

The only amiga gear I have ever sold was my old Blizzard 1230 when I upgraded to Blizzard PPC. My A1200 hasn't been set up for years however.

This is irrelevant however as I use PFS3 with MorphOS. Even emulated it still beats the native SFS.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Piru on May 15, 2009, 06:48:26 AM
@ChaosLord
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What filesystem does the RAMdisk.device use?

There is no such device. However, ramdrive.device (RAD) uses whatever filesystem you use in the mountlist, by default FFS.

ram-handler (RAM Disk:) on the other hand has built-in filesystem. It is quite different from traditional filesystems as it only needs to keep the data in memory and never write it out to physical media.

Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: wawrzon on May 15, 2009, 11:52:29 AM
funny enough i just noticed, i received a copy of pfs with the last machine i bought. i havnt examined the software box up till now. maybe i should give it a try even if sfs  failed me sourly only once and i didnt have any serious problems with it ever since.
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: Karlos on May 15, 2009, 12:08:51 PM
I hear ReiserFS is great, but only if you aren't married as it has a known tendency to murder your wife...
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: stefcep2 on May 15, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
OK so PFS3 wins in the performance race.  But what about reliability, and efficient use of available disk space?   Any differences.

BTW I mentioned FAT95 only because it means I can read and write to the cf via windows...I think you can anyway
Title: Re: best Filesystem
Post by: persia on May 15, 2009, 02:46:10 PM
Well ZFS is the gold standard of file systems, but a) it's not available for the Amiga and b) it's serious overkill for a virtual drive.