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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: guest3110 on May 09, 2009, 03:50:51 AM
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When Commodore-Amiga were last together, they were with ESCOM, who went into bankruptcy itself. After that, Commodore and Amiga went their separate ways, to different owners.
But, after their own multiple changes of hand, Commodore steadily rises. There are apparently two co-owners of the Commodore brand. And there are available custom gaming machines under the Commodore logo. Intel-based. (this won't be much of a stretch, considering in the past there was the PC-only "Commodore Select" computers).
If Amiga Inc. were to partner with Commodore...new Commodore-Amiga machines might still be possible. Amiga just wouldn't have a parent company. It's even not impossible that a Commodore-Amiga 6000 happen--if they were to go the way of custom chipsets, or just a continuation of what was.
What would you think if the two partnered?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:
:horse: :horse: :horse:
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Commodore would be stupid to get involved with Amiga Inc.
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Hey countzero, it seems you need to vote in the other thread (the POLL). I'd guess your vote might be: DEAD.
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What would you think if the two partnered?
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With all due respect, Amiga Inc proved to deceitful, untrustworthy. Getting involved with such party means lots of risk, besides what would be the point of the new Amiga machines? (see Sam/A1 boards, the are good enough, not to forget pegasos - I'm not sure if all 3 have sold enough machines?).
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EyeAm wrote:
If Amiga Inc. were to partner with Commodore...new Commodore-Amiga machines might still be possible. Amiga just wouldn't have a parent company. It's even not impossible that a Commodore-Amiga 6000 happen--if they were to go the way of custom chipsets, or just a continuation of what was.
forget about custom chipsets. custom chipset computers are game consoles now, and you need to be big, really big (Sony or Microsoft) to go into that arena. Developing custom chipset is costly, riskly and even the greater problem is, getting software companies to produce stuff for your platform. Just forget about it.
amiga inc is a pathetic existance devoted to making lamer apps for handheld devices. Their only interest in the classic amiga is to rip off as much as they can from kickstart/software licences. Commodore is just a pc rebranding company set up to rip off lamers who pay triple prices for their commodore branded gaming rigs.
just wake up dude. life goes on, my A3000 still boots, state of the art still rocks !
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If neither company has any capital, a partnership would be great in that it would certainly lead to a bankrupt Commodore Amiga (AGAIN), thereby freeing up the trademarks for someone else to buy. So, there is still hope?
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:lol: Well said.
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If Amiga Inc. were to partner with Commodore...new Commodore-Amiga machines might still be possible. Amiga just wouldn't have a parent company. It's even not impossible that a Commodore-Amiga 6000 happen--if they were to go the way of custom chipsets, or just a continuation of what was.
What would you think if the two partnered?
Very bad idea right now. Today's incarnation of Commodore(s) is very off the scale regards to Amiga Inc.
The current overall market trend and preferences for hardware is very much upmarket: high performance components. This is thanks to the ever-booming popularity of high-quality computer gaming these days and also computers are more available than never before. And this constrains making custom chipsets or any other parts (indirectly refering to countzero's post).
So far, even the moderately successful tech companies wouldn't make custom parts from quasi-scratch these days. I think the only convincing way to make custom parts for them (Amiga Inc. or any tech companies with similar status to Amiga Inc.) is to make a great use of relatively old hardware resources vis-a-vis respecting today's standard.
As Amiga and other similar companies is doing very slow, here's one problem with the majority of computer consumers right now: they have a relatively narrow view on computers, whether they be preferring high-end products or something that is darn familiar.
Enough ranting, hope this makes sense to anyone. Forgive me if I said something wrong or very off. Thank you.
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What happened to Tulip anyway? Weren't they the last owners of the Commodore trademark?
Tulip.com (http://www.tulip.com) ??? Not a commodore logo in sight. :huh:
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What happened to Tulip anyway? Weren't they the last owners of the Commodore trademark?
Tulip.com (http://www.tulip.com) ??? Not a commodore logo in sight. :huh:
It's alright.
A bit of scraping the web revealed that the trademark is owned by these guys (http://www.commodoreworld.com/theCompany.html) now.
But those thinking that they might have any interest whatsoever in the Amiga are deluding themselves.
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@Eyeam
Didn't you leave for good last week?
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@Eyeam
Didn't you leave for good last week?
I think someone dug up his old thread. :lol:
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Neither Amiga, Inc. (with respect to Amiga-related products) nor Commodore create new products. They both simply repackage products created by other companies. So, best case, you'd get an Intel PC with a silly C=/boing ball logo capable of running Amiga Anywhere.
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ya know...Amiga only lacks power to crunch all the numbers that today's environment demands. Why couldn't Amiga be a stand alone OS, get aweb and ibrowse using the newly available ram and clock speeds of a peecee and other programs that exist could really use a face lift but fundementally most are pretty solid programs. Amikit/amithlon done right could really be a viable alt. OS.
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new Commodore could sell again Amiga with AmigaOS if OS4 is ported on x86
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Well, if you might have an idea for a 'new' platform. Why not start your own company developing them. Ignore all fellows saying your stupid, that was told to Jay Miner is those days too.
Custom chips is the way to go, when you want to do something different form the main crap. Without those custom chips, it will just be 'another' PPC(?) platform like all others.
Capable of doing just the same like the other, you need a new, fresh, innovating ideas.
You will also need to rewrite kickstart, but that had to be done anyway. Kickstart is unix based, so start from there with Amiga in mind.
The name 'Amiga' is just a name, maybe possible to buy the Amiga Inc. is dead..
I though many times of doing something like this, but haven't had the guts to do so...
Oh, and don't let anyone scare you by saying custom chips is very expensive. They are not, there are a lot of asic specialized company's, that can make you custom chip for a few thousand dollars. The reason company's like Sony and Microsoft spent so much money is because of the overpaid employees, which think they are so important.