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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 15, 2003, 02:40:30 AM
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(Please note that these are just my observations, not trying to start a flame war)
Maybe I'm a little late, but yesterday I had my first chance to see both OS4 beta (running on a towerized A4000) and MorphOS. For those of you who haven't had a chance to see them side by side, MOS seemed tremendously more advanced. Looking at the tiny Pegasos motherboard, I saw a lot of possibilities...
Now I've been an Amiga user since the '80s. I've lost track of how many thousands of hours I've put into customizing my various systems. But it just doesn't seem like I have time for that anymore. The real world caught up to me some time ago, and between work & school (uni) leaves little time for a system that's a hack on top of a patch on top of a kludge, as much as I'm trying to rekindle the nostalgia. MOS looked very slick, whereas the OS4 system crashed, I don't know, a dozen times in one afternoon? I just don't have time for that! Now while I'm very impressed by the amount of work that Hyperion seems to be putting into OS4, I doubt that I'll ever be investing any money into an AmigaOne.
Kudos, BBRV & Crew. You've won another admirer.
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The Pegasos is a great choice! :-)
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Hmm.. I havent had a chance to actually witness OS4 live myself. I have read alot of reports.. Its seems very early beta. Its a shame I've been waiting over 3 years for it! I have a Cyberstorm PPC 4000T. I also have a Pegasos which I cant get enough of. The 4000T is not turned on unless I have to do video work.
Its a shame all the bad vibes some Amiga people have put on MorphOS, especially since it is so stable and runs Amiga apps. Not only that but MOST of the TOP Amiga Developers are now coding for Genesi or MorphOS - also the Pegasos was and is engineered by hte ex-Phase5 people who brought the PPC to the Amiga! If it wasnt for Phase5 and BBRV there would be no OS4 project! And now with the latest press statement by Ben Hermans of Hyperion about trying to get OS4 "booting" on A1 before finishing the CyberPPC version, things seem bleak. This statement contradicts his previous... ho hum what else is new? Poor Amigans...
When Amiga people actually try MorphOS for themselves they realize its the true Amiga PPC OS legacy!
magnetic
magnetic
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Yes i have seen morphos/pegasos running at the local user group and it very much feels like an amiga and looks fantastic, what with MUIppc allowing the GUI to be customized. Compatibility and stability is also pretty good for a beta OS, and will only get better. I also have not head anything about the software that is being ported to AmigaOS4.0, but Morphos seems to have quite a few developers on side. who will wait and wait just for an official AmigaOS releas when the only thing official about it is the name..
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As far as I'm aware, MorphOS has been in development a while longer than OS4. Personally I'd like to see release versions of both rather than drawing conclusions from beta versions of either.
An early beta of MorphOS (was it 0.8 or something? I cant recall) for the blizzppc not only fell over at the slightest provocation on my machine but managed to trash my hard drive, requiring a total reinstall. That was some time ago.
I'm sure the bugs presently in OS4 will be ironed out and both systems doubtless will be a lot of fun to play with :-)
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@Karlos
MOS 0.4 and 0.8 was in Alpha for BlizzardPPC (as reported by the docs).
Ciao
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Pegasos is a good choice if you want to use it now with an amiga type/compatable os .Amigaone is linux only at the moment so you would be wating like me for os4 before using it. My a1 is built and waiting for os4 i just cant use it like i would. :-)
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Hm...MOS was running on BlizzPPC? Why isn't there a release for it now? Some kind of marketing strategy? :-?.
How I long for a usefull OS for my BlizPPC...... :-/.
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odin wrote:
Hm...MOS was running on BlizzPPC? Why isn't there a release for it now? Some kind of marketing strategy? :-?.
How I long for a usefull OS for my BlizPPC...... :-/.
I think its a case of the MOS developers not wanting to be bombarded with requests for support like "MOS doesnt work on my A1200 PPC with , , ", and so on.
This makes sense to me. Better to concentrate their efforts on adding features to the Pegasos version. There are internal versions that run on the old BPPC/CSPPC cards (afaik Piru runs MOS 1.4 on his A1200) . Maybe a release version that only supports a specific hardware config (BlizzPPC/BVision or CSPPC/CVision) would make sense but it's up to the MOS guys to decide if they want to do that.
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I'd just like to break this happy MorphOS advocacy thread, in order to say that I have tried it and didn't like it. Sure, it boots quickly. It's fast. OS4 is almost certainly going to boot quickly, and run fast. I've not used OS4 betas on PPC hardware (I have on 68k, and there was nothing to suggest it is less stable or slower than 3.9). I have other reasons, but my foot is firmly in the OS4 camp. If Morph ends up being the only way then I'll probably give up and buy some dodgy Windows box.
Chris
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Hi Chris,
I really hope OS4 manages and that you don't have to live a life with a Windoze-box! :-D
I've got faith in Hyperion...
Spidey
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Well. to each for their kind.
Personally.. I started lookin back to AMiga to avouid usign windowse
anymore (some years ago) and since been waiting.. But in last springs
pegasos offer was so good I decided to cease waiting for now and start
using.
And so. Nowdays most of the time I use Pegasos, only when I have
things (in work) that need some PC softwares I turn on that Win2k
machine..
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@Chris
Thats the spirit! "Nothing wrong with the product but I just don't want to use it"
:)
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are we on ann.lu now or?
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spider usb also thrashed the hdd , hmmm weird that they abandoned that and .... ?
anyway mos0.4 was a early step 1 year ago .. 1.4 feels abit more like its own system now , though its still BETA! .
ohwell i wont provoke more now as its no need for it, people make their own choices and thats the beauty of it , but it seems that everyone is happy even, thats better than going windows and not beeing happy with it..
so its good that u didnt go x86.
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lempkee wrote:
so its good that u didnt go x86.
Whats wrong with the x86?
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I personally think that OS4 will be pretty cool when its out, but i think you will have to wait for a while, before its avaliable for Aone :\ Atleast not until beginnin of next year i believe.
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Whats wrong with the x86?
How about this (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11615)?
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Hi Dudes
I have a MOS box just here, which I use mostly to develop on, right now.
Mos is a great system, it feels the very same way that amiga feels, and its very fast and stable.
In the other side, I have a 1200 fully loaded with ppc and mediator, which a I use for general purpuoses, and I just LOVE AMiGA OS.
I cant wait to see Os4 running on ppc hardware.
Mos and AOS are wornderful systems, better tan ANY WINTEL combination and much better that linux (linux suxx)
I dunno the reason of this divisionon in the community.With the launch of the Os4 in One, we, all, will have 2 new amigas to play with.
We have been forgotten for many years, and NoOW we have a new and excellent hardware and Os to play with just now, the pegasos, and shortly we will have a new toy, the One.
Now we can choose wich tye of "amiga" want to have.
PS:Personally I have ery ry happy with the pegg.Enjoying the coding like the good times!
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Whats wrong with the x86?
Unmarketable.
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@lando
That monitor must have set you back a bit of corn mate.
I'm a fence sitter on this one... I just don't wanna buy Betamax.