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Title: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: on December 01, 2002, 03:04:41 AM
Hello To all

I have a question regarding mac emulation under Amiga OS 3.9 running the Blizzard PPC and Bvision card .

I am common from the PC usage and now start back to be common with amiga again more and more :))
But never in my live i have start to work under mac os and i want now to be able to test it without to many trouble or invest .

Following what i know the Motorolla Power PC is valuable to run the macOS under Amiga .
I want to know some infos
What will be the best and maxpossibilities Macos version that i will be able to use with my amiga ??
And is this version not too old like a Amiga OS ??i mean will i be able to use a navigator etc ??
Will i be able to play games or use software running under mac ??

What is the name of the best emulator and where to find it ?? on aminet ?? is this free ??

Thank you if some one answer me :))

Later
Oliver
PPC Motorolla Rulez

Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: odin on December 01, 2002, 05:39:05 AM
You've  hit a sore point :-(.

There IS a PPC mac emulator(FusionPPC), works nicely with OS9.1 I think. The catch is it only work on CyberstormPPC cards: A3000&A4000 only! :-/.

A Blizzard version was promised (I even preordered FusionPPC with 3 other guys). But it never came...

So the best you can do with an A1200 is 68k/MacOS 8.x era stuff. There are 2 main 68k mac emulators: Fusion and ShapeShifter. ShapeShifter is freeware nowadays I think, don't know what the status of Fusion is.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: strobe on December 01, 2002, 06:11:41 AM
How much does Fusion cost? Probably more than an old-ass Mac on eBay.
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: jahc on December 01, 2002, 08:01:10 AM
jeez f*ck up for once strobe.
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: BADHead on December 01, 2002, 10:22:25 AM
I would go for a Amiga one and
and use mac on Linux as is
supposed to run on a version
of Linux and the code is free so
lets all pray that it is ported to
Amiga 0s 4 :-D
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: strobe on December 01, 2002, 11:33:03 AM
Uh, fĂșck you. I was SERIOUS!

Fusion would cost more and run a hell of a lot slower than an old Mac.

As for MOL, it will only run on Linux. People have suggested porting it to all kinds of OSs (just look at the list archives) but ultimately nobody does. I'm guessing YOU aren't going to port it either. I'm almost psychic...
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: Warface on December 01, 2002, 12:10:39 PM
The fastest CPU in classic 68K mac's was the 040. In some cases it was clocked at 100MHz, but these were pretty rare. An Emulated Mac on a ShapeShifter/Fusion with a 060 CPU will be much faster than the majority of the classic 68K macs.
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: strobe on December 01, 2002, 12:17:56 PM
Who said anything about 68k?!

Get an old PCI PowerMac. Less than $100
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: strobe on December 01, 2002, 12:22:40 PM
You literally can't GIVE this stuff away:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075796000

Heck, you can't even give this stuff away:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075106050

Or even this stuff:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075205217
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: Crumb on December 01, 2002, 02:32:20 PM
Quote
The fastest CPU in classic 68K mac's was the 040. In some cases it was clocked at 100MHz


yes and no. All 040s use an internal clock at twice the frequency of the external clock, so that was a 50Mhz 040, you had expansions like that for amiga, for example the x-calibur board. Check out every 040 board and you will see that all of them use a crystal with twice the speed of the cpu. So there are no 100Mhz 040s...
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: on December 01, 2002, 05:18:45 PM
hello

Thank you for all these answer :)) look not like to be easy :))

I was asking this due that i remember +- 5 years back a friend have show me a mac emulator that was able to run major games at this time for mac :))
So i was thinking possible there was serious evolution and that possible now i will able to emulate it better :)))

So not sure i will try to emulate it now i will first continue to upgrade and add more and more software to have my a1200 running the best possible :))

Later
Oliver
PPC Rulez
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: lionstorm on December 03, 2002, 10:00:50 AM
Shapeshifter is outdated, and its following is basilisk II.
I would recommend a graphic card for mac emulation even if you have a 68060, because the chunky conversion is taking most of the cpu time and therefore slow things down.
LionStorm
Title: Re: A1200 PPC 603e and MacOS emulation
Post by: Philespin on December 03, 2002, 11:32:21 AM
I have Ifusion (ppc version of fusion) and it's slow like a hell, in one word: unuseable ...
If you want a mac emulation, use the old version.

Philespin