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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Calen on September 14, 2003, 06:14:55 PM
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My old 17" is starting to show its age and wondered what you guys would recommend.
I'm after a 19" CRT FST with a max dot pitch of .25 and can easily do 1280 X 1024 @ a minimum of 85Hz, preferably higher, and has good all round picture quality and reliability, USB intregrated is not a must but would be a nice added extra :-)
My max Budget is 180 UKP
I have 2 monitors in mind that i will probably choose from failing any better recommendations
They are:
Iiyama Vision Master Pro 455 (http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Iiyama_Vision_Master_Pro_455_19_in_) Nice monitor that fits just in my price plan
Iiyama Vision Master 1451 (http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Iiyama_Vision_Master_1451_19_in_) lower end and probably up to 40 UKP cheaper
I can get a good deal on the cheaper one but only for today, your suggestions are most welcome :-)
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I'm using an LG something or other... It's 19".. weighs about 30Kg!!, but can do a max resolution of 1600*1200... and that is what I run it at all the time (except at which I run at 1024*745).
It's great. :-)
It's survived me for three years and this is the best recomendation I can give any thing!!!
-Edit- Mine was only about £140... and yeah www.dabs.com are the best place for computerstuff.
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Iiyama monitors, are rock solid.
Mine 21" is a 13 years old model.It works fine.
Ciao
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I have an AOC 17" from dabs.com, it does 1280x1024 at 85hz, and 1600x1200 at 75hz, a dam nice flat crt tube. they also do 19" monitors and maybe larger ones. My 17" was only about £80 :-o
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@lorddef
£ 80 for a 17" monitor?
Have you checked if there is something inside?
No comparision, with Iiyama or LG (3 years warranty).
Ciao
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Indeed its a fantastic monitor, 3 years warrently too, flat crt.
We had some 17" Iiyama monitors in the labs at uni (they were called Visionmaster Pro or something) ans its almost exactly the same.
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Yeah LG do have some monitors out there, they have there flatron range out atm with integrated USB but sadly its out of my price range, other wise i would have jumped on it.
Iiyama have always impressed me as they seem to do solid reliable CRT'S with fantastic image quality.
My friend recently got the pro 454 model and i was quite blown away by the overall quality
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here (http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-info3-info.asp?&m=y&quicklinx=2FVJ)
They do 19" ones as well for £139 inc vat
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Although the one in that link has a different spec to mine which is bizzare, it says it only does 1280x1024 at 60hz, mine does it at 85hz although the minitor looks the same as the one in the pic the model of mine is AOC "7klr"
Bizzare, pehaps the pic or that spec is wrong but I did only pay 80 is quid for it. :-?
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they were called Visionmaster Pro or something
Yeah the pro range are more pricey as they use the superior Diamondtron rather than the cheaper ones which use shadow mask.
Having said that, i can pick up the pro 454 for just under 170.00 UKP which uses the DiamondTron tech but i dont know if paying the extra 40/50 quid would justify it as i havent used a shadow mask Iiyama to compare with and going by word of mouth
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Bizzare, pehaps the pic or that spec is wrong but I did only pay 80 is quid for it.
This kind of thing has happened me alot over the past couple of days when looking round for a monitor.
One place would have different dot pitch and and hz rating from another on the exact same model, bizzare indeed.
Only way to get exact specs it seems is threw the companys own website.
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Those are good choices. You may also want to check out anything with a "Trinitron" tube,
CTX makes some at a reasonable price. Crystal -
clear displays, and they last forever.
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I use a ViewSonic A90f+ here. Works great on my A1200 with internal scandoubler in PAL, NTSC & Euro36 screen modes (which are doubled to 31khz), but doesn't seem to sync low enough for the others. Bought it for $200 USD. You can read more about it here (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/crt_a90fplus.htm).
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Viewsonic is known for having outstanding quality, and they make monitors over several different lines based on what you need/can afford. Of course, their high-ends are much better than their low ends, but they have consistently won awards and make a very good product usually with a 3-5 yr. warranty.
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I recommend Sony Trinitron.
They have probably the clearest images.
Also Mitsubishi Diamondtron are good.
That technology is probably the best you will ever find in CRT's. That is probably what I will use for my pegasos in the near future.
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Liyama are renowned for their quality, not price. If it's in your price range, go for it :-)
My own experience with 19":
A friend of mine bought an NEC about 3 years ago. He's had nothing but trouble, and warranty dept. has just kept fobbing him off. It distorts verticle lines like crazy, with ghosting that comes and goes. They just don't want to fix it. Of course now the warranty has lapsed there isn't much he can do (he payed for the extended warranty [12 months to 3 years] and it started fail after about 18 months - after blaming his video card, PSU, etc. they said something to the effect of "it kinda works, so considering it's more than 12 months, we don't care".
I bought a HITACHI CM721F - it's terrific value, I believe. I got mine for $500 AUD, has 0.20 dot pitch, and I run in 1600x1200 full time. The clarity is amazing. Another friend of mine has a 19" Sony - he sent back his first one as it had some dead pixels (3). His second one he is pleased with, but at twice the price of mine.... I don't think I would have got it. It has a better refresh rate at 1600x1200 but I still think mine has a sharper picture. His OSD has more geometry settings than mine too, but I haven't needed anything more than what I've got.
I'm certainly pleased the quality of my monitor for the price I paid. Remember: the whole point of a 19" CRT is running in 1600x1200... the budget ones don't really give a practical refresh/sharpness at that res (though they are getting better) so you have to drop back to 1280x1024, at which point you may as well get a mid-priced 17" that also does that resolution.
Of course, all manufacturers can make 1off lemons, but at least with the Sony it was replaced promptly. Then again, an NEC service center in a different country may be more helpful than the one here in Brisbane :-)
- Paul
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Ok i made my choice and went with Iiyama Vision Master Pro 455 (Diamondtron tube) which i ordered new for 166.00 inc vat, excluding delivery. I think i got a good deal here.
I want to thank you all for your feedback, most of the monitors you all listed, eg: Sony, Mitsubishi, Viewsonic, LG i have looked at but there top end lovely models where just alittle expensive but good monitors none the less. I've been getting nothing but good reports about most of the Iiyama models which fitted the bill perfect.
To the guy who got deleted with his LCD recommendations, (you must have missed my listed Budget) in my own view there has never been a better time to get a good spec CRT monitor mainly because of the price drop as LCD's are starting to become more common.
For me to get one to equal the spec of a good CRT 19" monitor i would at least be doubling my budget post, way out of my league. but who knows, maybe in 3/5 years when the tech and prices have matured, then it may become more realistic ;-) untill then, LCD's really have no interest with me.
Cheers all :-) :pint: