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Title: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: brianb on April 02, 2009, 01:07:35 AM

I tried the new Icaros live CD, on a couple laptops and one desktop I had laying around.  Haven't had a much luck yet, best I did was a black screen with a red cursor I could move around.  Any suggestions on getting it going?  Or should I pretty much give up until I find hardware they specifically mention as being compatible.
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: saimon69 on April 02, 2009, 01:20:08 AM
Well usually after one minute the workbench should be loaded, but if it goes not further you can try two things:

-choose the emergency mode from the GRUB at boot;

if your computers have USB only try to disable in the BIOS preferences the "USB legacy" option.

If none of the above work let us know, guess paolone might pass by and will give you more hints.

Saimon69
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: SamuraiCrow on April 02, 2009, 03:41:25 AM
Icaros 1.1 comes on a live DVD image.  Maybe you burned only part of it or something.  :-?
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: mihcael on April 02, 2009, 05:16:12 AM
What hardware do you have??

Try IDE HD on ide0 as master, and DVD drive on ide1 as master

maybe disable any SATA or floppy you may have in BIOS?

Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: Manu on April 02, 2009, 06:29:51 AM
It would also be good to know if you tried (Slow-ATA) mode ?
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: cicero790 on April 02, 2009, 07:31:01 AM
@Brianb
If you come to black screen red cursor you where just one sec from workbenchscreen, which looks very promising.

EDIT
Paulone wrote this on some other place. This made it work on that machine.


Emergency mode use a different (older) kernel, which may be more compatible to your hardware. Please try this with your current installation: when loading, highlight a graphic mode in grub list, press E, replace "ATA=32bit" with "ATA=nopci" or "ATA=nodma" and press Ctrl+X (if I'm not wrong) to continue booting. You'd probably find a way to make Icaros perform better in disk operations.
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: clusteruk on April 02, 2009, 09:28:51 AM
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but if you have no floppy disk drive available, ensure that the BIOS has floppy drive disabled.
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: cicero790 on April 02, 2009, 09:52:02 AM
EDIT


Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: Steril707 on April 02, 2009, 11:11:39 AM
When this happens (Aros just stopping right before displaying Workbench/Wanderer),I found it's also helpful to unconnect all kinds of USB stuff from the USB ports.

plus:
- switch off legacy USB support in your Bios
- switch off disc drives,( if you don't have one. Maybe switching the off anyway is not a bad idea though)
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: DiskDoctor on April 02, 2009, 12:51:01 PM
@ brianb

Welcome to the club, pal :-)

Tried this on my HP 530 notebook:
- disabled USB Legacy
- disabled floppy support, moved USB floppy booting sequence to the end
- tried emergency mode

FAILED!

Spent ~60 minutes on this in total already.

iMica then seems a bless (also, not expensive bless).
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: Manu on April 02, 2009, 01:04:24 PM
It's important to not forget to try if Icaros boots with the last row in GRUB meny the Slow-ATA mode because if your hardware has problem with ATA.device then you can circumvent that problem quite easily.
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: DiskDoctor on April 02, 2009, 01:10:35 PM
Quote

Manu wrote:
It's important to not forget to try if Icaros boots with the last row in GRUB meny the Slow-ATA mode because if your hardware has problem with ATA.device then you can circumvent that problem quite easily.


Tried that one as well.

EDIT* I Also tried to switch "Native SATA mode" in bios.  Guess the result.
Title: Re: Icaros Install Help...
Post by: brianb on April 02, 2009, 02:36:21 PM
Thanks, for the tips...  But no luck on this laptop.  Guess I'll keep my eye out for other possible candidates...  The best I got was the ability to move the cursor around in 1/4 of the screen for a few seconds, and then it just goes dead and no cursor.

I do have one more question...  Does Icaros send debug/console information out the com port during boot up?  If so maybe I could capture this and do some research.