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Title: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: som99 on March 28, 2009, 04:02:48 PM

I was thinking a bit and then I coulden't recall that I ever have stubbmled upon a emulator that runs under Workbench, So my questions is is there any Emulators for other systems like C64 (or older or any system) etc that run on a Amiga, and if there is it would be funt to know for example what is possible to Emulate on a A500, A1200, A4000 etc

So if anyone got time feel free to drop a line here :)

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: gazgod on March 28, 2009, 04:39:25 PM

There are loads of emulators for the Amiga, in the early nineties the Amiga was probably the best machine for emulating others on.

For starters have a look here :- http://aminet.net/misc/emu

Gaz

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: som99 on March 28, 2009, 08:48:26 PM

Thank you nice to know I see alot of systems but got no clue what runs on a a500 (with 512KB extra ram) and stock a1200 :/

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: cv643d on March 28, 2009, 08:53:41 PM

Nes runs great (in some cases) on basic 1200.

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: som99 on March 29, 2009, 06:11:00 AM

Thank you :) I wanted GameBoy to would work on a stock 1200 tho :)

//som99

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: Rob on March 29, 2009, 06:44:12 AM

AmiGameBoy and AmiMasterGear are coded in assembly and vey fast, you should able to get full speed on a stock A1200.

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: som99 on March 29, 2009, 03:39:27 PM

Thank you Rob :)

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: Cammy on March 29, 2009, 04:17:37 PM

It would be great if this was true, but unfortunately you need at least an 030 to get a playable speed from AmiMasterGear. On a stock A1200 or CD32, even with Fast RAM, games are pretty much unplayable and run very slowly. I haven't tried AmiGameBoy though, maybe it runs a little faster.

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: som99 on March 29, 2009, 06:38:42 PM

It might, no$gbc the older versions runnign in ultimate disaster could run GB games in fullspeed under dos on a 16Mhz 8MB ram PC :)

That I have tryed myself :)

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: drHirudo on March 29, 2009, 08:16:36 PM

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som99 wrote:
It might, no$gbc the older versions runnign in ultimate disaster could run GB games in fullspeed under dos on a 16Mhz 8MB ram PC :)

That I have tryed myself :)

The Z80 alike CPU in the GameBoy is very similar to the x86 CPUs (same endianess as well), unlike the 680x0, which need more overheat to emulate it. That's why it is very easy and fast to emulate it on Intel CPUs. Back in 1993 I had an Sinclair emulator which worked pretty well on TurboXT (8MHz).
But there are some fast Z80 emulators for 68K as well. The Sinclar ZX emulator - Speculator shows speeds on unaccelerated A500 of 33% percent from the real Spectrum, which is I can say impressive. On unexpanded A1200 it flies. The ZXAM emulator is also very cool and not much resource demanding, but does not work on 68000 CPU. There is also QL emulator which is very fast. The Sinclair QL uses 68008, which is the 8 bit little brother of the 68000, so not a problem at emulating it.

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: RMK305 on March 29, 2009, 09:42:18 PM

I was going to post on the same topic myself.
So AmiGameBoy and AmiMasterGear are the best for the Gameboy andMaster System.

What is the best NES and Spectrum emulator and can amy of them be played in a workbench window by any chance?

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: doble07 on April 05, 2009, 08:22:13 PM

Hi All!

I developed AmiEmulators in a Stock Amiga 1200, but I never reached the needed speed to make a real console speed emulation. You need a minimun of a Stock A1200 with MC68020 at 28Mhz with 2Mb of real fast ram to reach real emulation speed in any of my emulators. (I bought a Blizzard 1220 accelerator about 12 years ago to enjoy them!!!) But a MC68030 at 50Mhz is recommended.

All my emulators are HIGHLY optimized, make more optimizations are not possible!!! :)

The best NES emulator is CoolNESs in my opinion.

ZXAM Spectrum emulator can be played in a Workbench window...

Greets!

Juan

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: RMK305 on April 05, 2009, 08:55:16 PM

What are the names of the ones you developed?

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: doble07 on April 05, 2009, 09:08:35 PM

Hi RMK305!

I Developed the next emulators seriously:

- AmiMSX
- AmiMasterGear
- AmiGameBoy

and Started like alpha versions:

- AmiNES (Famicon)
- AmiPC-Engine


I always called them "AmiEmulators" :)

Greets!!!

Juan

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: Damion on April 05, 2009, 11:05:50 PM

Greets Juan! Welcome to amiga.org... and thanks for writing some cool emulators. :pint:

Any chance you might someday continue to work on Ami-PC-Engine? :-)

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: doble07 on April 06, 2009, 01:26:33 PM

Hi!

I left AmiPC-Engine emulator development because Amiga AGA hardware is not 100% capable of emulate PC-Engine display. It make to me to do a software display emulation and then loss a lot of speed for the CPU emulation.

All my emulators take use of the Amiga AGA hardware advantages to make possible run fast and smooth.

Probably, I will not continue AmiPC-Engine... but who knows!

See you!

Juan

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: nikodr on April 06, 2009, 02:00:33 PM

Juan i used the emulator of amimsx years ago when it was shareware and needed to be registered.Very good one!
Any chance for a better version emulating msx turbo-r or emulating 5 channels of scc audio somehow?
Congratulations,after these years i think it is still an impressive one!

Title: Re: Emulatioin in WB?
Post by: doble07 on April 06, 2009, 08:19:25 PM

Hi Nikodr!

I am proud to hear it. I am very happy with quality of MSX emulation.

I left the Amiga development in 2001, but now, some month ago, I recover my Amiga 1200 and updated it with Indivision AGA and installed a CompactFlash as Harddisk...

I have not plans to continue developing my Emulators, but I will release a new version soon because a found a problem with KEY file protection and Scalos. AmiEmulators don't works with Scalos. They hangs when it open KEY file...

A possible MSX Turbo-R Emulation and 5 SCC channels support will be possible if Natami will be released any day... But currently... MC68060 is not enough to emulate them with the needed quality!!!

See you!!!

Juan