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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: DIABLO_NEGRO on September 13, 2003, 01:17:21 AM

Title: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: DIABLO_NEGRO on September 13, 2003, 01:17:21 AM
Anyone know why toaster ver 4.1 would give a software failure just as the switcher screen is loading? it shows the bottom half and the is loading then if freezes and then the red flashing software failure!!!!

uuugghhh!!!

i have a A2000 with 1meg chip and 8 meg fast ram
gvp ec030 acc. and vt2000 plus an 8up ram expander

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-?  :-?  :-?
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: tony23 on September 13, 2003, 04:36:40 AM
Hi DIABLO_NEGRO,

You don't say in your post if you've had it running before or if this is a new install.

 I myself have toaster 4.3 and I get the same sort of crash if I try starting toaster from the LW5starttoaster icon. I think it's due to its needing a flyer.

So are you starting it up from the standard Toaster icon ? or the StartToasterLW32 or StartToasterLW35 ?

As I don't have 4.1 installed I can only go by my somewhat limited experience with VT4.3 but it sounds to me either your not starting from the correct icon ,or it is not installed correctly, or it is some other conflict like maybe a ram problem.

If you purchased your VT from the original owner you can get a transfer of ownership letter from them and send it to NewTek with your reciept to register your VT as they still give tech support for registered Amiga VT owners !

Good luck, and I hope you can get it sorted out.

 :-)
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on September 13, 2003, 05:24:15 AM
Quote

tony23 wrote:
If you purchased your VT from the original owner you can get a transfer of ownership letter from them and send it to NewTek with your reciept to register your VT as they still give tech support for registered Amiga VT owners !


That's fabulous!  Good for you, Newtek!
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: tony23 on September 13, 2003, 05:36:42 AM
@ Oldsmobile_Mike,

Quote..,
"That's fabulous! Good for you, Newtek!"

Yup, I registered mine just last year no problem and they helped me figure out a problem I had with it over the phone. I thought there was something wrong with the card but it was the original software that I had (it had a bad disk), so I got VT4.3 and all works great now.

Great service NewTek !
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: DIABLO_NEGRO on September 13, 2003, 09:22:26 PM
the card worked with the ver 1.0 that i bought it with

so i know the card works i think it needs the flyer cuz i am loading from the workbench icon on the newtek\programs folder

i bought my amiga and toaster over ebay how can i register it with newtek???

i'm going to reinstall and see what happens
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: Stew on September 14, 2003, 12:02:04 AM
 The toaster will work without the flyer. The software instaler should ask what type of combo it is installing to ie. 4000 with toaster/flyer or 2000 toaster only ect..

   When starting the toaster software what screen mode are you in?
  BTW 4.1 toaster software can be had pretty cheap on ebay. It is not given away by Newtek as it was a purchased upgrade for all toaster owners of previous versions.


Stew


Stew
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: tony23 on September 14, 2003, 03:04:35 AM
@ DIABLO_NEGRO
The icon that you want to use to start the Toaster resides in the Toaster drawer, not the NewTek/Programs drawers ! The icon is labeled "VideoToaster". You will find that some of the icons in the NewTek/Programs drawers require a flyer to work.
 :-)
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: SyrTran on September 14, 2003, 04:01:43 AM
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i have a A2000 with 1meg chip and 8 meg fast ram
gvp ec030 acc. and vt2000 plus an 8up ram expander


I think you don't have enough chip ram.  The Toaster is a serious hog here.  My 4.2 version (with Flyer) takes over 800,000 bytes of chip ram just at the initial switcher screen.  Depending on your Workbench screen mode, you might not have enough left to run the Toaster.

I'd also bet that your old version of the software took a bit less.
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: ID4 on September 14, 2003, 10:37:13 AM
Hi Tony, I have VT4000 with software 3.4, But my disk are faulty so I can use my VT4000. I read that you have the version 4.3, please can you contact with me at admins@supercable.es ?

Thank you.
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: tony23 on September 14, 2003, 11:08:57 AM
Hi ID4,
 If you are looking to buy replacement software for your VT ,  I would try...

  " www.mrhardwarecomputers.com  "     , thats where I bought mine for $100 dollars U.S. .

Their phone number is on their website and Russ is really helpfull and is very knowledgable about Toasters , I myself was very happy with their service.

 I will also follow up this message with an E mail to the address you provided just in case you don't check back here.

Cheers... T23
 :-)
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: DanDude on September 14, 2003, 01:28:37 PM
I didn't know that 4.3 was out....I have 4.2g and it crashes on heavy file-swapping.  Nothing else ATM.
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: Framiga on September 14, 2003, 03:21:05 PM
Quote
by SyrTran on 2003/9/14 5:01:43
Quote:

i have a A2000 with 1meg chip and 8 meg fast ram
gvp ec030 acc. and vt2000 plus an 8up ram expander

I think you don't have enough chip ram. The Toaster is a serious hog here. My 4.2 version (with Flyer) takes over 800,000 bytes of chip ram just at the initial switcher screen. Depending on your Workbench screen mode, you might not have enough left to run the Toaster.

I'd also bet that your old version of the software took a bit less.

I agree with you.

Even if i have never owned a VideoToaster (unfortunately no PAL version available),AFAIK  1 MB of chipram, are not enough IMHO. (4.0 and above)

Ciao

PS- is there someone in US, that could tell me, where can i find the 2 module programs of Montage24AGA, FontConverter and Postscript module?

Thanks in advance

Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: tony23 on September 14, 2003, 04:50:20 PM
Hi Framiga, It is most likely about the ram.

As I said in the first reply to this thread, that it could be a ram problem, but it also seemed to me to be possibly something else from what he had said.
Details help.

 I have Toaster 4.3 which contains VT3.1 which I run on my A2000 with only 1Mb chip and have had no problems with lack of chip ram, although it would be nice to have the Minimega chip, you do not need to have it in order to run the Toaster.

 I run my workbench with a plain grey screen and only a couple of icons left out, this leaves me with 857216 bites of chip ram, after starting the swtcher and returning to workbench by pressing  "Ctrl Ctrl and left Alt twice" it shows 242312 , granted this is not much left for chip ram but I think that the software has allocated a chunk for the Toasters use as I am able to use the Switcher fully, grabbing frames, all effects/transitions, superimpose ect. and the CG and Lightwave also work fine with no problems.

 It maybe that he has not left enough chip ram before he goes to start the Toaster, the answer to that is to run a clean workbench with no color patterns or other things that eat up the chip ram.

I can say for sure that it will run on only 1MB chip.
But more is always better  : )

As for the software your looking for have you tried the place I suggested above ?

Chow fer now,  T23
 :-)
Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: DIABLO_NEGRO on September 14, 2003, 08:58:01 PM
after the machine boots i with just the os3.9 loaded i have 916,824 chip and 5,713,072 fast ram

HAHAHA!!! i figured out what the problem was when i opened the menu my chip ram dropped and i didnt have enough chip ram!!!!

so i figured a way around it.. ne1 know where i can get a mega chip cheap???


Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: Framiga on September 14, 2003, 09:42:51 PM
@tony23

Thanks for the suggestion :-) (you was speaking about Mr. Hardware?)

However, have you see the prices of Mr. Hardware?  
A plain Amiga A4000 USED= 800 USD ! ! ! even if this kind of stuff are rare in USA . . .but!!!

Ciao e grazie


Title: Re: VT 4.1 issuses
Post by: tony23 on September 14, 2003, 10:35:43 PM
Hi Framiga,
Expensive  maybe ,

 but like the mechanic in the film Mad Max says...

"speed is just a question of money, how fast do you wanna go ? "

I don't know what the commercial retail price would be these days, You'd have to call around and compare if you're looking to save money.

 I'm sure that stock would change frequently and some prices would be negotiable depending on what your buying, it's always best to call.

 I'm just glad that there are still real Amiga dealers out there for us to call. If you need it, and you just have to have it.
It's there on the other end of that phone  :-)